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Re: Lakers and Pacers in trade discussions for Roy Hibbert
« Reply #60 on: July 04, 2015, 07:58:18 PM »

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This is another great example of why tanking is a terrible strategy. 

By many Cs fans accounts, LA did exactly the right thing this year by losing as much as possible and getting the #2 pick in the draft.  Some went so far as to say they would rather have the Lakers roster/situation vs. ours.

Of course, what we continue to find out is that FAs will sign where they want to sign because they are humans with individual desires, primary amongst them competing and making money.  It is not pre-ordained that FAs will automatically sign with to play in LA because of the weather and the hot models.  Lo and behold, your 2015 Lakers have proven that.


Re: Lakers and Pacers in trade discussions for Roy Hibbert
« Reply #61 on: July 04, 2015, 08:01:54 PM »

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This is another great example of why tanking is a terrible strategy. 

By many Cs fans accounts, LA did exactly the right thing this year by losing as much as possible and getting the #2 pick in the draft.  Some went so far as to say they would rather have the Lakers roster/situation vs. ours.

Of course, what we continue to find out is that FAs will sign where they want to sign because they are humans with individual desires, primary amongst them competing and making money.  It is not pre-ordained that FAs will automatically sign with to play in LA because of the weather and the hot models.  Lo and behold, your 2015 Lakers have proven that.

And yet if LAL drafts well and those young picks develop into strong players, lots of top FAs will want to sign in a few years time.

Re: Lakers and Pacers in trade discussions for Roy Hibbert
« Reply #62 on: July 04, 2015, 08:03:39 PM »

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I think San Antonio should make a run at Roy Hibbert next summer to replace Tim Duncan if Duncan decides to retire as expected.

PG: Tony Parker
SG: Danny Green
SF: Kawhi Leonard
PF: LaMarcus Aldridge
 C: Roy Hibbert

That frontcourt would pretty awesome defensively. Overwhelming physically.

Re: Lakers and Pacers in trade discussions for Roy Hibbert
« Reply #63 on: July 04, 2015, 08:18:19 PM »

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This is another great example of why tanking is a terrible strategy. 

By many Cs fans accounts, LA did exactly the right thing this year by losing as much as possible and getting the #2 pick in the draft.  Some went so far as to say they would rather have the Lakers roster/situation vs. ours.

Of course, what we continue to find out is that FAs will sign where they want to sign because they are humans with individual desires, primary amongst them competing and making money.  It is not pre-ordained that FAs will automatically sign with to play in LA because of the weather and the hot models.  Lo and behold, your 2015 Lakers have proven that.

And yet if LAL drafts well and those young picks develop into strong players, lots of top FAs will want to sign in a few years time.
I'm sure they will get stars in the next FA class and the one after that. Guys want to see what Randle and Russell can do.

Re: Lakers and Pacers in trade discussions for Roy Hibbert
« Reply #64 on: July 04, 2015, 08:42:10 PM »

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This is another great example of why tanking is a terrible strategy. 

By many Cs fans accounts, LA did exactly the right thing this year by losing as much as possible and getting the #2 pick in the draft.  Some went so far as to say they would rather have the Lakers roster/situation vs. ours.

Of course, what we continue to find out is that FAs will sign where they want to sign because they are humans with individual desires, primary amongst them competing and making money.  It is not pre-ordained that FAs will automatically sign with to play in LA because of the weather and the hot models.  Lo and behold, your 2015 Lakers have proven that.
i would.  ;D
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Re: Lakers and Pacers in trade discussions for Roy Hibbert
« Reply #65 on: July 04, 2015, 08:43:48 PM »

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This is another great example of why tanking is a terrible strategy. 

By many Cs fans accounts, LA did exactly the right thing this year by losing as much as possible and getting the #2 pick in the draft.  Some went so far as to say they would rather have the Lakers roster/situation vs. ours.

Of course, what we continue to find out is that FAs will sign where they want to sign because they are humans with individual desires, primary amongst them competing and making money.  It is not pre-ordained that FAs will automatically sign with to play in LA because of the weather and the hot models.  Lo and behold, your 2015 Lakers have proven that.

And yet if LAL drafts well and those young picks develop into strong players, lots of top FAs will want to sign in a few years time.

The Lakers still owe picks.

Re: Lakers and Pacers in trade discussions for Roy Hibbert
« Reply #66 on: July 04, 2015, 09:06:33 PM »

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This is another great example of why tanking is a terrible strategy. 

By many Cs fans accounts, LA did exactly the right thing this year by losing as much as possible and getting the #2 pick in the draft.  Some went so far as to say they would rather have the Lakers roster/situation vs. ours.

Of course, what we continue to find out is that FAs will sign where they want to sign because they are humans with individual desires, primary amongst them competing and making money.  It is not pre-ordained that FAs will automatically sign with to play in LA because of the weather and the hot models.  Lo and behold, your 2015 Lakers have proven that.

So 12 months later is appropriate time to judge their tanking efforts, because they couldn't sign a free agent?
What a load of hot steaming crap.The funny thing is that they got audiences with some major free agents. What the hell did we get exactly?

I'd still rather have their asset pool of Dangelo Russell, Randle, Jeremy Clarkson and cap space vs our 3 brooklyn picks, a Dallas pick, Marcus Smart and some cap room.
instead of an expiring Amir Johnson and Gerald Wallace they've got an expiring Roy Hibbert who will be a great trade chip in the brutal western playoff race and kobe Bryant 's enormous deal finishing, making $40.5 million worth of expiring deals alone.

Regardless, you can't claim that their current status is the be all and end all of tanking just like you can't claim the 76ers strategy is a success or failure yet.
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Re: Lakers and Pacers in trade discussions for Roy Hibbert
« Reply #67 on: July 04, 2015, 09:27:56 PM »

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Hibbert should fit in well with Randle, eh?  One offense the other defense.

Re: Lakers and Pacers in trade discussions for Roy Hibbert
« Reply #68 on: July 04, 2015, 09:33:54 PM »

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Hibbert should fit in well with Randle, eh?  One offense the other defense.

Yes.

Kind of a worst case scenario for a guy like Hibbert, though.  Playing in the spotlight of LA while having to deal with Kobe's sociopathic attitude.
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Re: Lakers and Pacers in trade discussions for Roy Hibbert
« Reply #69 on: July 04, 2015, 09:47:57 PM »

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Like, seriously, why not take a swing on Hibbert this year? We whiffed on every other major free agent big, and obviously he had a VERY low trade price. There's virtually no risk with him expiring next summer, and he's the type of rim protector we've been lacking. Sure, his offensive game isn't ideal for our system, but we're not exactly contending this year. Is our "trade flexibility" that important to us that we can take a chance on Turner but not Hibbert?!

Re: Lakers and Pacers in trade discussions for Roy Hibbert
« Reply #70 on: July 04, 2015, 10:18:14 PM »

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Like, seriously, why not take a swing on Hibbert this year? We whiffed on every other major free agent big, and obviously he had a VERY low trade price. There's virtually no risk with him expiring next summer, and he's the type of rim protector we've been lacking. Sure, his offensive game isn't ideal for our system, but we're not exactly contending this year. Is our "trade flexibility" that important to us that we can take a chance on Turner but not Hibbert?!

Yeah it's not worth taking arisk on Hibbert, who doesn't fit in the system and would kill our flexibility if there was a possible trade. This is one of those trade for the sake of trading ideas that doesn't improve our team that much and ties up 15 mill until the end of next season.

At least with Amir you can move him in December if some thing like SAC imploding and Cousins wants out. Or Love not working or Orlando deciding to move Harris. Yeah maybe an other team could put a better package for one of those players, but Hibbert would completely give DA no shot at all putting some thing together.

Re: Lakers and Pacers in trade discussions for Roy Hibbert
« Reply #71 on: July 05, 2015, 11:42:27 AM »

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With Roy Hibbert & David West gone, who will replace them? Myles Turner is going to be thrown in the starting lineup quickly
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

Re: Lakers and Pacers in trade discussions for Roy Hibbert
« Reply #72 on: July 05, 2015, 11:54:20 AM »

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With Roy Hibbert & David West gone, who will replace them? Myles Turner is going to be thrown in the starting lineup quickly
Jordan Hill??
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

Re: Lakers and Pacers in trade discussions for Roy Hibbert
« Reply #73 on: July 05, 2015, 12:43:07 PM »

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I'd still rather have their asset pool of Dangelo Russell, Randle, Jeremy Clarkson and cap space vs our 3 brooklyn picks, a Dallas pick, Marcus Smart and some cap room.
instead of an expiring Amir Johnson and Gerald Wallace they've got an expiring Roy Hibbert who will be a great trade chip in the brutal western playoff race and kobe Bryant 's enormous deal finishing, making $40.5 million worth of expiring deals alone.


Except that's all LA has, while Boston also has Sully, KO, Zeller, Bradley, Turner, Crowder, Rozier, Young, IT, Jerebko, a first from Memphis, 5 extra second round picks and probably around 60 million in cap room next season.

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Re: Lakers and Pacers in trade discussions for Roy Hibbert
« Reply #74 on: July 05, 2015, 12:53:46 PM »

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They'll  probably dangle him at the trade deadline when some big men go down before the playoffs.
I'm pretty sure he can be traded this season. Can anyone confirm?
Clippers could use him and so,could any team in the top 10 teams who lose a big man to injury...and there's always one.
kupchak looks at teams like Chicago that will ask for Doug McDermott in return for a rental of hibbert.
If the Mavs lose deandre or if Asia goes down for the pelicans Etc...

He can, just like Thornton was last year after we acquired him in the summer
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