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Just a friendly reminder that rebuilds take more than 2 years in most cases.
it's been less than 2 years since we traded the truth and KG.
There's a lot of talk about how the rising cap means we should be targeting guys now who's contracts will be 'value' in 3 or 4 years from now. That's fair enough, but it's a double edged sword, because signing those guys now makes it harder to create a 'super team' when the cap spikes to $108 million, which I believe is Ainge's plan.

When the following players are free agents, a maximum contract for a player with 7-9 years experience should be at least $30 million dollars. A 10 year veteran will command around $33 million a year.

Danny's next big targets...?

2016 unrestricted free agents or player with player options:
Mike Conley
DeMar DeRozan
Kevin Durant
Chandler Parsons

2017-18 notables/ targets all unrestricted. So take $108 million and have some fun....
Russell Westbrook
Blake Griffin
Dwight howard
steph curry
serge Ibaka
Iggy
Jeff teague
pau gasol
Zach Randolph
derrick rose

Edit..for some reason the site I was using has Cousins in 16-17', but he's 18-19 UFA.
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« Last Edit: July 04, 2015, 11:53:25 AM by chambers »
"We are lucky we have a very patient GM that isn't willing to settle for being good and coming close. He wants to win a championship and we have the potential to get there still with our roster and assets."

quoting 'Greg B' on RealGM after 2017 trade deadline.
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Realistically, derozan or parsons.  The rest... :P

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Realistically, derozan or parsons.  The rest... :P

If we are saving money for those 2 then we really are in trouble. We eventually need a BIG that plays inside and protects the rim. I mean according to all of the people that are thrilled with our draft we have Rozier & Hunter so why would we save our money for Derozan & Parsons. Frankly, Parsons is not a superstar.


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Cousins is on the Kings payroll till end of 17/18 season aka 18/19 free agency.

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Cousins isn't a free agent until the summer of 2018, I believe.


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Yeah, nobody else will have money. ::) Celtics can just pick whoever they choose. Heck, those free agents will be pounding on the door to get in. Like they always do.
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Just a friendly reminder that rebuilds take more than 2 years in most cases.
it's been less than 2 years since we traded the truth and KG.
There's a lot of talk about how the rising cap means we should be targeting guys now who's contracts will be 'value' in 3 or 4 years from now. That's fair enough, but it's a double edged sword, because signing those guys now makes it harder to create a 'super team' when the cap spikes to $108 million, which I believe is Ainge's plan.

When the following players are free agents, a maximum contract for a player with 7-9 years experience should be at least $30 million dollars. A 10 year veteran will command around $33 million a year.

Danny's next big targets...?

2016 unrestricted free agents or player with player options:
Demarcus Cousins
Mike Conley
DeMar DeRozan
Kevin Durant
Chandler Parsons

2017-18 notables/ targets all unrestricted. So take $108 million and have some fun....
Russell Westbrook
Blake Griffin
Dwight howard
steph curry
serge Ibaka
Iggy
Jeff teague
pau gasol
Zach Randolph
derrick rose

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I get your point, but there is nothing super in 2017 about a 37 year old Pau Gasol, 35 year old Zach Randolph or 33 year old Iggy with 13 years worth of mileage on him.If that is fun heaven help me ;)

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I would add Al Horford to the 2016 list. Although it's highly unlikely we could sign him it would be great to get him.

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So... every one else will have a ton of space, too, and we don't sign FAs. So... what are you saying? I think you forgot the punch line.
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Just a friendly reminder that rebuilds take more than 2 years in most cases.
it's been less than 2 years since we traded the truth and KG.
There's a lot of talk about how the rising cap means we should be targeting guys now who's contracts will be 'value' in 3 or 4 years from now. That's fair enough, but it's a double edged sword, because signing those guys now makes it harder to create a 'super team' when the cap spikes to $108 million, which I believe is Ainge's plan.

When the following players are free agents, a maximum contract for a player with 7-9 years experience should be at least $30 million dollars. A 10 year veteran will command around $33 million a year.

Danny's next big targets...?

2016 unrestricted free agents or player with player options:
Demarcus Cousins
Mike Conley
DeMar DeRozan
Kevin Durant
Chandler Parsons

2017-18 notables/ targets all unrestricted. So take $108 million and have some fun....
Russell Westbrook
Blake Griffin
Dwight howard
steph curry
serge Ibaka
Iggy
Jeff teague
pau gasol
Zach Randolph
derrick rose

Remember that winning championships is about the long haul!
Demarcus Cousins has 3 more years on his contract.  He won't be a free agent until 2018/2019.  Those lists don't look very good to me. 

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Ah yes, the masses being strung along for the ride.

Ainge isn't doing anything.

He hasn't signed anyone because no one wanted to come here.

Love, Aldridge and Jordan didn't even meet with the Celtics and I don't think Monroe did either.

But if you want to keep waiting and waiting and waiting for "Trader Danny" to "strike", be my guest.

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You need to have some interesting talent already on your team in order to attract notable free agents.  Cap space isn't going to be very much use -- especially since everybody will have it for the next couple of years -- until the Celts get some talent on the roster.
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Everybody else will have some cap room in 2016 due to the cap rising. The only difference is they will have established players that can attract Free Agents and we don't.

Danny needs to get a star here, quick. Boston is not going to attract a Free Agent if all we could boast is Marcus Smart and Brad Stevens.
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You need to have some interesting talent already on your team in order to attract notable free agents.  Cap space isn't going to be very much use -- especially since everybody will have it for the next couple of years -- until the Celts get some talent on the roster.

I agree for the most part, but somebody has to be that first interesting talent. I was very much hoping that that would've been Monroe. That he could have been convinced that at 25, with his skills, he would've been one of the focal points of the rebuild.

I wonder if he didn't fit Stevens' profile of a player Stevens desires for his system. I wonder if Ainge was told by Monroe's agent from the get-go, that he wasn't interested in Boston? I wonder if Ainge didn't like him or thought he could MAYBE "do better" with all his "cap flexibility". I'd love to know the machinations of how that all played out.

I'm very disappointed that we didn't get the 25 year old big who runs the floor, bangs like hell underneath and is an excellent passer. I just don't get it.

EDIT: Four shooters around him, with him down-low would've been deadly. Sorry for the coulda, woulda, shouldas. I hate those.
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You need to have some interesting talent already on your team in order to attract notable free agents.  Cap space isn't going to be very much use -- especially since everybody will have it for the next couple of years -- until the Celts get some talent on the roster.

Exactly so we have to PRAY our players get better/strike gold in the draft/trade well because none of those players are coming here as of right now.