Tobias Harris agrees to four-year, $64M deal with the Orlando Magic

[Jonny CC]

Thanks DA for not signing harris for this type of money.  He's a decent player but not worth that deal.   

[hwangjini_1]

So he'll be up for auction at the trade deadline, I guess.

Amir + Bradley + 2016 BRK 1st + 2016 DAL 1st

I'd start there.

Those are the two picks we're going to combine with our own to get someone better than Harris, or if not better, real good but cheaper...

Maybe even a big guy or pure SF with lots of upside...

I believe both picks will end up in the 12-20 range.  Picks of that nature were not enough to move up into the top 10 this year.  I don't expect any different next year.

We'd be lucky to get a talent like Harris in the top 10 of the draft, anyhow.  I'd gladly trade both picks to get a swing scorer like that for a relative bargain price.

i dont think charlotte's front office is indicative of all nba front offices. hard to extrapolate and generalize off a one time occurrence.

i am sure ainge can find a partner for those picks, and maybe more, to move up a few slots.

[PhoSita]

So he'll be up for auction at the trade deadline, I guess.

Amir + Bradley + 2016 BRK 1st + 2016 DAL 1st

I'd start there.

Why would the Cs want to give up assets for a guy who's not worth $16mil per year?!?!?
That makes no sense.

Because with the rising cap he's probably worth MORE than 16 million a year.

[PhoSita]

So he'll be up for auction at the trade deadline, I guess.

Amir + Bradley + 2016 BRK 1st + 2016 DAL 1st

I'd start there.

Those are the two picks we're going to combine with our own to get someone better than Harris, or if not better, real good but cheaper...

Maybe even a big guy or pure SF with lots of upside...

I believe both picks will end up in the 12-20 range.  Picks of that nature were not enough to move up into the top 10 this year.  I don't expect any different next year.

We'd be lucky to get a talent like Harris in the top 10 of the draft, anyhow.  I'd gladly trade both picks to get a swing scorer like that for a relative bargain price.

i dont think charlotte's front office is indicative of all nba front offices. hard to extrapolate and generalize off a one time occurrence.

i am sure ainge can find a partner for those picks, and maybe more, to move up a few slots.

But again, finding a talent like Harris with a top 10 pick, even if you can trade for one, is a couple ticks shy of the best case scenario.

[tarheelsxxiii]

So he'll be up for auction at the trade deadline, I guess.

Amir + Bradley + 2016 BRK 1st + 2016 DAL 1st

I'd start there.

Those are the two picks we're going to combine with our own to get someone better than Harris, or if not better, real good but cheaper...

Maybe even a big guy or pure SF with lots of upside...

I believe both picks will end up in the 12-20 range.  Picks of that nature were not enough to move up into the top 10 this year.  I don't expect any different next year.

We'd be lucky to get a talent like Harris in the top 10 of the draft, anyhow.  I'd gladly trade both picks to get a swing scorer like that for a relative bargain price.

Sucks that the value of all these picks ceiling out at sweetener. Sticky place to be in, too... we lose them when we use them, and they'll likely be of more value as sweetener in a later and larger trade; on the other hand, a good opportunity to use them hasn't presented itself yet. Blahh.

[CelticSooner]

So he'll be up for auction at the trade deadline, I guess.

Amir + Bradley + 2016 BRK 1st + 2016 DAL 1st

I'd start there.

Those are the two picks we're going to combine with our own to get someone better than Harris, or if not better, real good but cheaper...

Maybe even a big guy or pure SF with lots of upside...

I believe both picks will end up in the 12-20 range.  Picks of that nature were not enough to move up into the top 10 this year.  I don't expect any different next year.

We'd be lucky to get a talent like Harris in the top 10 of the draft, anyhow.  I'd gladly trade both picks to get a swing scorer like that for a relative bargain price.

If Ainge really wanted him he would have offered up a sign and trade. I wouldn't give up what you suggested for a tier 2 guy.

[PhoSita]

So he'll be up for auction at the trade deadline, I guess.

Amir + Bradley + 2016 BRK 1st + 2016 DAL 1st

I'd start there.

Those are the two picks we're going to combine with our own to get someone better than Harris, or if not better, real good but cheaper...

Maybe even a big guy or pure SF with lots of upside...

I believe both picks will end up in the 12-20 range.  Picks of that nature were not enough to move up into the top 10 this year.  I don't expect any different next year.

We'd be lucky to get a talent like Harris in the top 10 of the draft, anyhow.  I'd gladly trade both picks to get a swing scorer like that for a relative bargain price.

If Ainge really wanted him he would have offered up a sign and trade. I wouldn't give up what you suggested for a tier 2 guy.

I don't think you can do sign and trades with RFAs like that.  Besides, Orlando will try to get a good half season, or maybe a full season, out of Harris and auction him off to teams eager for an upgrade.

Whenever Ainge trades for an upgrade, it's going to look like an overpay.  That's what happens when no single asset you have is particularly valuable.

Getting that first significant piece will be huge.  Especially if Smart turns into a decent scorer more in line with our hopes when he was drafted.  It would be worth an overpay to secure a piece like that.

[P stoff]

What it must feel like to be Dallas...


lose Ellis, Rondo, Aminu and Chandler...   oh, no big deal

we'll just sign jordan, and Mathews ...will probably deal for Holiday or another decent pG to boot.

Wonder what that feels like....

[Jonny CC]

So he'll be up for auction at the trade deadline, I guess.

Amir + Bradley + 2016 BRK 1st + 2016 DAL 1st

I'd start there.

Why would the Cs want to give up assets for a guy who's not worth $16mil per year?!?!?
That makes no sense.

Because with the rising cap he's probably worth MORE than 16 million a year.

I don't care how much they raise the cap, he's still not worth 16 mil a year.

[CelticSooner]

So he'll be up for auction at the trade deadline, I guess.

Amir + Bradley + 2016 BRK 1st + 2016 DAL 1st

I'd start there.

Those are the two picks we're going to combine with our own to get someone better than Harris, or if not better, real good but cheaper...

Maybe even a big guy or pure SF with lots of upside...

I believe both picks will end up in the 12-20 range.  Picks of that nature were not enough to move up into the top 10 this year.  I don't expect any different next year.

We'd be lucky to get a talent like Harris in the top 10 of the draft, anyhow.  I'd gladly trade both picks to get a swing scorer like that for a relative bargain price.

If Ainge really wanted him he would have offered up a sign and trade. I wouldn't give up what you suggested for a tier 2 guy.

I don't think you can do sign and trades with RFAs like that.  Besides, Orlando will try to get a good half season, or maybe a full season, out of Harris and auction him off to teams eager for an upgrade.

Whenever Ainge trades for an upgrade, it's going to look like an overpay.  That's what happens when no single asset you have is particularly valuable.

Getting that first significant piece will be huge.  Especially if Smart turns into a decent scorer more in line with our hopes when he was drafted.  It would be worth an overpay to secure a piece like that.

I wouldn't have given up more than a couple of 2nd rounders for him. He's a good young player but if the C's are going to overpay it [dang] well better be for a legit star.

[Who]

$16 million per year in a $108 million is equivalent to $9.4 million per year in a $63 million cap.

Tobias Harris is overpaid in first year of that deal. Then it turns into a good contract in his 2nd year and a bargain in his 3rd and 4th years of that contract.

[GreenGoggles]

Wow Johnson and Jerebko for 17 or Harris for 16??
Really disappointed in DA. Our team stood pat and signed role players.

So now we bank on the mythical big trade...but no one wants our picks.

Failure of an offseason if I ever saw one.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Wow Johnson and Jerebko for 17 or Harris for 16??
Really disappointed in DA. Our team stood pat and signed role players.

So now we bank on the mythical big trade...but no one wants our picks.

Failure of an offseason if I ever saw one.

Thanks for playing, Restricted Free Agency.

[boscel33]

Yeah, I think this is a good deal and would have rather seen that signing before the others.  If Danny had done this one first and the Magic match it, he could fall back.

[cltc5]

Wow Johnson and Jerebko for 17 or Harris for 16??
Really disappointed in DA. Our team stood pat and signed role players.

So now we bank on the mythical big trade...but no one wants our picks.

Failure of an offseason if I ever saw one.

Well apparently we need Amir to replace bass and I do like jerebko so