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ESPN sources say that the Sacramento Kings have offered Wes Matthews a three-year deal in the $45 million range

I don't understand this at ALL.


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As @daldridgetnt just tweeted, Wes Matthews has officially given a verbal commitment to the Mavs after turning Sacramento down

David Aldridge @daldridgetnt
Contract amount with Dallas is not yet finalized, but Kings have been told Matthews is not taking their offer.

David Aldridge @daldridgetnt
Wes Matthews has agreed in principle with the Mavericks on a four-year deal, per source. Turned down huge offer from Sacramento.

David Aldridge @daldridgetnt
DeAndre Jordan going to Dallas impacts Wes Matthews deal w/Mavs. Matthews will get 4/57M. Would have been more if Jordan had stayed in LA.
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Re: Wes Matthews offered three-year, $45M deal by the Sacramento Kings
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Thats a lot for some one coming off a very bad injury. Don't even know if he'll be even close to the same player.

Re: Wes Matthews offered three-year, $45M deal by the Sacramento Kings
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2015, 09:28:26 PM »

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Thats a lot for some one coming off a very bad injury. Don't even know if he'll be even close to the same player.

Completely agree.

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But ESPN sources say Dallas is Wes Matthews' preferred destination -- over both Kings and Raptors -- and that Mavs are favorites to land him

Don't understand why no one is making a bigger fuss about this injury, not the reporters. Not the teams the seem interested. Someone is bound to make a huge mistake here, unless they know something we don't know. But historically this has been a very very bad injury to recover from.

Re: Wes Matthews offered three-year, $45M deal by the Sacramento Kings
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ESPN sources say that the Sacramento Kings have offered Wes Matthews a three-year deal in the $45 million range

I don't understand this at ALL.

What don't you understand that can't be explained by the idea that the Kings are stupid?
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Re: Wes Matthews offered three-year, $45M deal by the Sacramento Kings
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ESPN sources say that the Sacramento Kings have offered Wes Matthews a three-year deal in the $45 million range

I don't understand this at ALL.

What don't you understand that can't be explained by the idea that the Kings are stupid?

This isn't a Kings issue though. The media doesn't care for it, multiple teams interested in him, he's looking for a $15M per contract and is seemimgly going to get it.

Just don't understand it.

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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2015, 09:55:28 PM »

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Thats a lot for some one coming off a very bad injury. Don't even know if he'll be even close to the same player.

Completely agree.

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But ESPN sources say Dallas is Wes Matthews' preferred destination -- over both Kings and Raptors -- and that Mavs are favorites to land him

Don't understand why no one is making a bigger fuss about this injury, not the reporters. Not the teams the seem interested. Someone is bound to make a huge mistake here, unless they know something we don't know. But historically this has been a very very bad injury to recover from.

Maybe because.......he's a very good player who's simply recovered from his injury? Not sure why that's so hard to comprehend.

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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2015, 09:57:19 PM »

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Thats a lot for some one coming off a very bad injury. Don't even know if he'll be even close to the same player.

Completely agree.

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
But ESPN sources say Dallas is Wes Matthews' preferred destination -- over both Kings and Raptors -- and that Mavs are favorites to land him

Don't understand why no one is making a bigger fuss about this injury, not the reporters. Not the teams the seem interested. Someone is bound to make a huge mistake here, unless they know something we don't know. But historically this has been a very very bad injury to recover from.

Maybe because.......he's a very good player who's simply recovered from his injury? Not sure why that's so hard to comprehend.

Because historically the recovery from that injury has been quite bad. Capiche?

Re: Wes Matthews offered three-year, $45M deal by the Sacramento Kings
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2015, 10:04:20 PM »

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ESPN sources say that the Sacramento Kings have offered Wes Matthews a three-year deal in the $45 million range

I don't understand this at ALL.

What don't you understand that can't be explained by the idea that the Kings are stupid?

This isn't a Kings issue though. The media doesn't care for it, multiple teams interested in him, he's looking for a $15M per contract and is seemimgly going to get it.

Just don't understand it.

One rumor was that the Mavs wanted to sign him for 10-12 million/year and were offering 12.  The Raptors were interested, but perhaps not now that are giving Demarre Carroll 4 years/60 million.

Kings are giving him a Godfather contract offer that he can't refuse, so he's signing with a team that is a disaster.

Kings are offering a stupid contract because the Kings are stupid.  Matthews is signing the contract because he likes money.  How is that hard to understand?  What more needs to be explained?
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Re: Wes Matthews offered three-year, $45M deal by the Sacramento Kings
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2015, 10:21:12 PM »

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ESPN sources say that the Sacramento Kings have offered Wes Matthews a three-year deal in the $45 million range

I don't understand this at ALL.

What don't you understand that can't be explained by the idea that the Kings are stupid?

This isn't a Kings issue though. The media doesn't care for it, multiple teams interested in him, he's looking for a $15M per contract and is seemimgly going to get it.

Just don't understand it.

One rumor was that the Mavs wanted to sign him for 10-12 million/year and were offering 12.  The Raptors were interested, but perhaps not now that are giving Demarre Carroll 4 years/60 million.

Kings are giving him a Godfather contract offer that he can't refuse, so he's signing with a team that is a disaster.

Kings are offering a stupid contract because the Kings are stupid.  Matthews is signing the contract because he likes money.  How is that hard to understand?  What more needs to be explained?

Read the previous post, and as explained what's hard to understand is multi-faceted. Teams offering a lot of money (that the Kings are offering the most is inconsequential), the media's lack of care or focus on his injury when taking into account how historically this injury has "performed".

So yes, it's very hard for me to understand that teams are taking this big of a risk on him, unless they know something we don't know, and I'm a bit doubtful on that regard.

The only explanation is that you can take risks this year because failure is not devastating with the cap increase, but even then a bit more prudence should be expected.

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« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2015, 10:39:40 PM »

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Update!

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Wes Matthews Update: Sacramento offer to free-agent swingman is actually four-year deal at $16 million annually for total of $64 million

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Does this move ben mclemore to the bench if it works out?... Cuz I'd gladly trade for mclemore. I like that kid a lot.

Re: Wes Matthews offered three-year, $45M deal by the Sacramento Kings
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Wes Matthews Update: Sacramento offer to free-agent swingman is actually four-year deal at $16 million annually for total of $64 million

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Wes Matthews Update: Sacramento offer to free-agent swingman is actually four-year deal at $16 million annually for total of $64 million

Boy is Sacramento incompetent. They dealt Stauskas and 1sts for the cap space to grab a non-All-Star that will force McLemore to the bench just as he gets good enough to start demanding playing time and shots?


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Re: Wes Matthews offered three-year, $45M deal by the Sacramento Kings
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ESPN sources say that the Sacramento Kings have offered Wes Matthews a three-year deal in the $45 million range

I don't understand this at ALL.

What don't you understand that can't be explained by the idea that the Kings are stupid?

This isn't a Kings issue though. The media doesn't care for it, multiple teams interested in him, he's looking for a $15M per contract and is seemimgly going to get it.

Just don't understand it.

One rumor was that the Mavs wanted to sign him for 10-12 million/year and were offering 12.  The Raptors were interested, but perhaps not now that are giving Demarre Carroll 4 years/60 million.

Kings are giving him a Godfather contract offer that he can't refuse, so he's signing with a team that is a disaster.

Kings are offering a stupid contract because the Kings are stupid.  Matthews is signing the contract because he likes money.  How is that hard to understand?  What more needs to be explained?

Read the previous post, and as explained what's hard to understand is multi-faceted. Teams offering a lot of money (that the Kings are offering the most is inconsequential), the media's lack of care or focus on his injury when taking into account how historically this injury has "performed".

So yes, it's very hard for me to understand that teams are taking this big of a risk on him, unless they know something we don't know, and I'm a bit doubtful on that regard.

The only explanation is that you can take risks this year because failure is not devastating with the cap increase, but even then a bit more prudence should be expected.

I don't think it is hard to understand that some teams are not risk-averse and are willing to bet on Matthews having a recovery track similar to Dominique Wilkins.

The value of signing Matthews to that contract and the risk involved will be explored more once it is made official and we start getting media analysis of free agent acquisitions, but his injury has not been ignored.

ESPN:

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However, sources say that the Mavs are extremely reluctant to meet Matthews’ price considering the frightening history of players who came back from torn Achilles tendons. The Mavs would want to sign Matthews to a deal with salaries in the $10-12 million range, according to sources.

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For Matthews, getting back to full health will be his biggest challenge in this next deal. Achilles' injuries can be devastating to NBA careers, and maybe the most successful return story of the past 10 years has been Jonas Jerebko. Players like Kobe Bryant have struggled with their health after having such a bad injury in recent years. But when Matthews is healthy, he's one of the better two-way shooting guards in the NBA.

$15M/year is what Matthews could get if healthy.  The Mavs and Raptors seem interested in paying about 2/3 of that and there are probably other teams that would be interested for less, so it's wrong to say that teams aren't concerned about his injury.  Mark Cuban is a bit reckless in throwing around money, but I don't think that offering Matthews $10 million/year is imprudent.  If you want to give Matthews a discounted two-year deal with the second year as a team option, well that's just stupid and he won't agree to it because there are stupid teams like the Kings who will overpay.
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Re: Wes Matthews offered three-year, $45M deal by the Sacramento Kings
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Update!

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
Wes Matthews Update: Sacramento offer to free-agent swingman is actually four-year deal at $16 million annually for total of $64 million

Boy is Sacramento incompetent. They dealt Stauskas and 1sts for the cap space to grab a non-All-Star that will force McLemore to the bench just as he gets good enough to start demanding playing time and shots?

Maybe Ainge believes that Cousins isn't really available now but if he just waits, the Sacramento dumpster fire will make a Cousins trade inevitable.
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