Dallas looks like they are striking out, Good news for pick c's own?

[chambers]

If Dallas falls inside the top 7 (without winning the lottery) it will be hard for them to dig back out of that hole and make the playoffs again the following year in the West.  It's top 7 protected for awhile --- so what if we get #8-12 in 2017 vs. 2016? Might be better if you think about, as that way we'd have 2 picks in the 1st each in 2016 and 2017, instead of 3 and 1.  So don't feet of Dallas goes full tank -- that pick will come, and it will be a good one.

I would be fine with it either way.

There's a real legit chance that they are bad enough to be in the lottery this year but good enough to not be in the bottom 7, which means the pick would convey.

Between our own pick, the Nets pick and the Mavs pick we could dang well have 3 lottery picks next year. Two chances at a #1 overall if we win it. I get that people are tuned out to the idea of trading up in the draft, but if we have say picks 7, 11 and 14, how can a team at looking to trade out at #4 turn that down?

I get that people are upset about MJ turning down that deal Danny offered him, but it doesn't make all our picks less valuable. We don't even know how valuable they are yet.

Yeah I was thinking of the three lottery picks scenario.
it's hard to see them letting dirk ride off to the glue factory so I assume they'll at least let him fight for the 7th or 8th seed in the West with some short term/ big money deals to a decent supporting cast.

[slamtheking]

If Dallas falls inside the top 7 (without winning the lottery) it will be hard for them to dig back out of that hole and make the playoffs again the following year in the West.  It's top 7 protected for awhile --- so what if we get #8-12 in 2017 vs. 2016? Might be better if you think about, as that way we'd have 2 picks in the 1st each in 2016 and 2017, instead of 3 and 1.  So don't feet of Dallas goes full tank -- that pick will come, and it will be a good one.

I would be fine with it either way.

There's a real legit chance that they are bad enough to be in the lottery this year but good enough to not be in the bottom 7, which means the pick would convey.

Between our own pick, the Nets pick and the Mavs pick we could dang well have 3 lottery picks next year. Two chances at a #1 overall if we win it. I get that people are tuned out to the idea of trading up in the draft, but if we have say picks 7, 11 and 14, how can a team at looking to trade out at #4 turn that down?

I get that people are upset about MJ turning down that deal Danny offered him, but it doesn't make all our picks less valuable. We don't even know how valuable they are yet.

Yeah I was thinking of the three lottery picks scenario.
it's hard to see them letting dirk ride off to the glue factory so I assume they'll at least let him fight for the 7th or 8th seed in the West with some short term/ big money deals to a decent supporting cast.

could be 4 lottery picks depending on how Minny does.  their pick is only top 12 protected.  They have some very nice young prospects and a better-balanced roster that could gel enough to come close to the playoffs in the West. 
Everyone above them figures to stay better except Dallas who I really think will be outside playoffs and quite possibly worse than Minny.  Exchange OKC with Dallas and I think that'll be the western playoff teams next year. 
If Phx gets LMA (doubtful) they'll be fighting for that last spot with NO.  if not, I think Minny has a chance to also pass Phx in the standings.  Other than Utah, I don't see any other Western teams that would be on enough of an upswing to challenge them for a playoff spot out West.
The East is still comparatively weak so teams missing the playoffs in the East figure to be worse than the 2-3 teams that just miss the playoffs in the West (my personal speculation).

C's could seriously have 4 lotto picks on their hands next draft with 2 (theirs & Nets) with a shot at landing #1.  best case C's end up with the #1, #2, #8 and #13 next year.  Considering Charlotte's mismanagement, their passing on the 2016 picks this year for #9 will undoubtedly result in this draft outcome for us next year

[Ilikesports17]

Devin Harris
Justin Anderson
Chandler Parsons
Dirk
Amare???

It's not necessarily lottery bound....but def not a playoff team in the west... Aka perfect for us.

Even if they bring back Monte Ellis, honestly even if they get DeAndre... I think New Orleans and Phoenix are right there with them arguably much better.

You talked yourself into a brain pretzel.

Anyway I don't think that team is better than us nor do I think that starting lineup is better than us. I'm very worried they are a bottom 7 team next year

[MBunge]

Philly will become the ultimate argument for or against tanking.

Dallas is the ultimate argument against relying on free agency.  They won a title and had a team that, if they had kept it together, would have remained a top 4 or 5 team in the West with a chance to add some title chasing veteran talent.  Instead, Cuban deliberately let that team fall apart in order to preserve his precious cap space and wound up completely wasting the last years of Dirk's prime.

Mike

[Birdman]

Devin Harris
Justin Anderson
Chandler Parsons
Dirk
Amare???

It's not necessarily lottery bound , but probably a better starting 5 then our Firework celtics. In all honesty, but def not a playoff team in the west... Aka perfect for us.

Even if they bring back Monte Ellis, honestly even if they get DeAndre... I think New Orleans and Phoenix are right there with them arguably much better.

Ouch, that is a lottery team without a doubt..Amare wont stay healthy, Dirk is old, Parsons coming off a injury, Anderson a rookie, and Harris is meh

[chambers]

Looks like DeAndre is going back to the Clippers (just my speculation)...reports saying now that the Mavs are interested in Roy Hibbert.

[Endless Paradise]

Looks like DeAndre is going back to the Clippers (just my speculation)...reports saying now that the Mavs are interested in Roy Hibbert.

Those reports are entirely contingent on Jordan. No more indicative of anything than those reports that the Clippers would possibly try to sign-and-trade for Tyson Chandler if DeAndre left for Dallas. That is, before Phoenix bursted through the door.

[Blaze4G]

Devin Harris
Justin Anderson
Chandler Parsons
Dirk
Amare???

It's not necessarily lottery bound....but def not a playoff team in the west... Aka perfect for us.

Even if they bring back Monte Ellis, honestly even if they get DeAndre... I think New Orleans and Phoenix are right there with them arguably much better.

You talked yourself into a brain pretzel.

Anyway I don't think that team is better than us nor do I think that starting lineup is better than us. I'm very worried they are a bottom 7 team next year

I am a bit worried too. We will hav to count on these teams doing worse than Dallas:
Philly
nuggets
lakers
knicks
magic
Blazers
Kings

It is close. I did not mention Jazz as I expect them to win more games than Dallas as well as Pistons and hornets.

[GC003332]

Desperate times call for desperate measures, Cuban puts the feelers out for a Steve Nash comeback

[SHAQATTACK]

Rondo

Stopped by Dallas this winter

Killed the Mavs .playoff hopes.......screwed up the locker room....easy pick ins......then departed

On his journey .....far far away ...to

To  the

People's Republic of China .



Starting guard .....for      City of  Bang yo Son ........


Team of.  .......yo men LOW D

[SHAQATTACK]

Desperate times call for desperate measures, Cuban puts the feelers out for a Steve Nash comeback

On his knees

Begging for RR to return and save his fav hobby ......being Dirks sugar daddy

[Big333223]

Deandre Jordan signing with Dallas.

This doesn't make them a lock for the playoffs. Dirk needs to prove he's still got it, Parsons needs to play better than he did last year, Matthews needs to be healthy, and they don't have a PG. I read they're going after Jeremy Lin. If things gel for them, this could be really bad news for the Celtics and that pick but I'm holding out hope that age, health, and lack of PG play (crucial to getting Deandre looks) could still land them in the lottery.

[Surferdad]

Deandre Jordan signing with Dallas.

This doesn't make them a lock for the playoffs. Dirk needs to prove he's still got it, Parsons needs to play better than he did last year, Matthews needs to be healthy, and they don't have a PG. I read they're going after Jeremy Lin. If things gel for them, this could be really bad news for the Celtics and that pick but I'm holding out hope that age, health, and lack of PG play (crucial to getting Deandre looks) could still land them in the lottery.

I haven't read the whole thread but I'm sure somebody already mentioned that it is top 7 protected so they can't be terrible which I don't think they will be. I call this a positive for the C's.

[Future Celtics Owner]

Deandre Jordan signing with Dallas.

This doesn't make them a lock for the playoffs. Dirk needs to prove he's still got it, Parsons needs to play better than he did last year, Matthews needs to be healthy, and they don't have a PG. I read they're going after Jeremy Lin. If things gel for them, this could be really bad news for the Celtics and that pick but I'm holding out hope that age, health, and lack of PG play (crucial to getting Deandre looks) could still land them in the lottery.

I haven't read the whole thread but I'm sure somebody already mentioned that it is top 7 protected so they can't be terrible which I don't think they will be. I call this a positive for the C's.

I think it could be a good thing. DAL can't suck and get in the top 7, but we don't want them to make the playoffs either.

[hwangjini_1]

Deandre Jordan signing with Dallas.

This doesn't make them a lock for the playoffs. Dirk needs to prove he's still got it, Parsons needs to play better than he did last year, Matthews needs to be healthy, and they don't have a PG. I read they're going after Jeremy Lin. If things gel for them, this could be really bad news for the Celtics and that pick but I'm holding out hope that age, health, and lack of PG play (crucial to getting Deandre looks) could still land them in the lottery.

I haven't read the whole thread but I'm sure somebody already mentioned that it is top 7 protected so they can't be terrible which I don't think they will be. I call this a positive for the C's.

I think it could be a good thing. DAL can't suck and get in the top 7, but we don't want them to make the playoffs either.

agreed. my guess, and it is a guess, is that their draft pick falls in the 10 to 16 range. which is better than the celtics this past draft.