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By the numbers Mickey better than Noel
« on: June 29, 2015, 10:34:14 PM »

Offline KG Living Legend

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Stats freshman year Noel, 9.9 ppg 8.1 rpg 1.9 bpg
                                 Mickey,  12.8 ppg 7.9 rpg 3.1 bpg
 Noel beat him in spg 1.9 to .6 but Noel shot .462% fg and .609% ft while Jordan shot .543% fg and 
.695% ft

 Noel is still a freaky Defensive talent. The numbers suggest mickey could be a more well rounded player.


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Re: By the numbers Mickey better than Noel
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just one thing to note is that Noel went to Kentucky meaning deflated stats. I have been pondering the comparison of Biyombo to Noel as well. I feel that Mickey is going to be good for us, really athletic and mobile, which means that his blocks will translate to NBA.

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the above may be the strongest argument yet as to the uselessness of college numbers in predicting player performance.
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just one thing to note is that Noel went to Kentucky meaning deflated stats. I have been pondering the comparison of Biyombo to Noel as well. I feel that Mickey is going to be good for us, really athletic and mobile, which means that his blocks will translate to NBA.
perhaps, but mickey averaged 34.9 minutes a game in college. i sincerely doubt he will average even remotely close to that this upcoming season....unless it is in the dleague.

mickey, it seems to me, is destined to be a bench player with limited minutes. he will get blocks, but often in mop up duty at the end of games.
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just one thing to note is that Noel went to Kentucky meaning deflated stats. I have been pondering the comparison of Biyombo to Noel as well. I feel that Mickey is going to be good for us, really athletic and mobile, which means that his blocks will translate to NBA.
perhaps, but mickey averaged 34.9 minutes a game in college. i sincerely doubt he will average even remotely close to that this upcoming season....unless it is in the dleague.

mickey, it seems to me, is destined to be a bench player with limited minutes. he will get blocks, but often in mop up duty at the end of games.

hwangjini_1 and Eddie20 = official Jordan Mickey dislike club

Why even draft him at 33 , if he is going to be a part time water boy?  Is there even a point to have a 2nd round?

Also I guess CBS can't identify promising talents.  fail right?

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« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2015, 11:41:39 PM »

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just one thing to note is that Noel went to Kentucky meaning deflated stats. I have been pondering the comparison of Biyombo to Noel as well. I feel that Mickey is going to be good for us, really athletic and mobile, which means that his blocks will translate to NBA.
perhaps, but mickey averaged 34.9 minutes a game in college. i sincerely doubt he will average even remotely close to that this upcoming season....unless it is in the dleague.

mickey, it seems to me, is destined to be a bench player with limited minutes. he will get blocks, but often in mop up duty at the end of games.
Noel averaged 32mpg so the numbers comparison is still fair.

I dont think anyone is seriously going to put Noel and Mickey on the same level but considering that Noel would cost you Smart and then some and Mickey cost you pick 33 I think the fact that their college numbers line up so well is certainly not discouraging.

As someone else meentioned its really hard to take anything from college stats
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Re: By the numbers Mickey better than Noel
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Are you taking Noels freshman year in the league? Because he averaged close to 5 blocks a game in college.....
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Nerlens-Noel-6455/stats/

Ya he averaged 4.4 blocks a game as a freshman. Its not as good as Robert Upshaw at 4.5, but its not like we could have drafted him 45th or anything.....tough pill to swallow for me. Upshot must have other/worse situations, that only people close to him knew and the league found out. I really have to trust Danny and CBS on this one.
Its not like I started with Upshaw. I started with Gobert then Karl Towns......then was forced to move on from them and go to Myles Turner/Upshaw.
I have my eyes on some prospects that will be in the 2017 draft, but most people would not care to look because its too far away.

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« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2015, 12:27:51 AM »

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 I looked up stats on my phone and got it wrong, here  is the real deal.

10.5 ppg 9.5 rpg 4.4 BPG 2.1 Spg 

 Noel is more talented no question, what do you think it is though Mickey has outstanding leaping ability, however Noel gets off the ground as fast as I have ever seen. It's incredible.

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just one thing to note is that Noel went to Kentucky meaning deflated stats. I have been pondering the comparison of Biyombo to Noel as well. I feel that Mickey is going to be good for us, really athletic and mobile, which means that his blocks will translate to NBA.
perhaps, but mickey averaged 34.9 minutes a game in college. i sincerely doubt he will average even remotely close to that this upcoming season....unless it is in the dleague.

mickey, it seems to me, is destined to be a bench player with limited minutes. he will get blocks, but often in mop up duty at the end of games.

hwangjini_1 and Eddie20 = official Jordan Mickey dislike club

Why even draft him at 33 , if he is going to be a part time water boy?  Is there even a point to have a 2nd round?

Also I guess CBS can't identify promising talents.  fail right?
not dislike. it is too simplistic to put others' opinions down as either like/dislike. i have stated that mickey looks like a bench player to me. and for a second rounder that is fine. all teams need bench players. mickey will not be a starter in the nba, or so it looks to me. hence, he will occupy a place on the bench and play fewer minutes than starters. IT did this and it worked just fine.

having someone not share your passion for mickey does not mean they dislike or hate mickey. opinions are more nuanced than either unbridled exuberance and "dislike." it would help this discussion for you to recognize that.
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just one thing to note is that Noel went to Kentucky meaning deflated stats. I have been pondering the comparison of Biyombo to Noel as well. I feel that Mickey is going to be good for us, really athletic and mobile, which means that his blocks will translate to NBA.
perhaps, but mickey averaged 34.9 minutes a game in college. i sincerely doubt he will average even remotely close to that this upcoming season....unless it is in the dleague.

mickey, it seems to me, is destined to be a bench player with limited minutes. he will get blocks, but often in mop up duty at the end of games.
Noel averaged 32mpg so the numbers comparison is still fair.

I dont think anyone is seriously going to put Noel and Mickey on the same level but considering that Noel would cost you Smart and then some and Mickey cost you pick 33 I think the fact that their college numbers line up so well is certainly not discouraging.

As someone else meentioned its really hard to take anything from college stats
i was not discussing noel in the least. i was making the point that mickey's numbers could not be counted on as reproducible if for no other reason than he playing time will be reduced. simple.
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