DE analysis
Mickey doesn't show much in the way of perimeter skills either, attempting just nine threes this season and making just one. He is a decent midrange shooter, converting 50% of his 2-point jumpers (34-68).
This already a poor analysis. Because as a PF ,he cant shoot threes at a good rate= poor perimeter skills?
How many pfs in the NBA can actually shoot threes at an acceptable rate?
Mickey's bread and butter is defense. On the offensive end, he is more skilled than WCS. He doesnt project his passes and can hit the open man once he feels a double team is coming. Or hit the outlet man for a transition bucket. The promise is there to contribute on the offensive end. Review the highlight below(number 25). He flashes his passing capability and other parts of his offensive game. This guy is no Quincy Acy on the offensive end, the way that DE makes him sound like
The things you say simply aren't accurate.
On offense...
He has a high release point on his shot, but does not have much range at all. The college 3's stat is important because it's a shorter distance than the NBA 3 and shows how limited his range is. He has a very elementary, to be kind, post game. When the defense closes on the perimeter he usually goes right, but it's straight line drive and will often barrel over defenders for the charge. His ballhandling isn't good at all and neither is his passing/vision. He averaged 3.3 TOV and 1.3 APG, along with having a offensive win share of just 1.2. He doesn't have high IQ offensively, despite you always saying he does, and has a very poor feel at that end of the floor.
On defense...
He blocked a lot of shots, but that was in collge where historically undersized shotblockers don't replicate that at the next level. He may have a long winspan, but he has a short standing reach (just 8-10, for compasion James Young is at 8-8), which is probably because his neck is on the longish side. Something that should be factored into his already undersized height (6-8 1/4). He often gets out of position defensively because he tries to block too many shots coming from the weakside. This probably impacts his medicore defensive rebounding (7.1 per 40 minutes). He's very nimble and can rotate and hedge out on the perimeter, especially in pick and rolls.
Are you still upset the Celts chose Mickey at 33?
Don't worry Eddie20, you will learn to like him.
I always said that at #33 I would't have a major issue with the selection. I wouldn't have gone with Mickey, but since his contract is not guaranteed we could easily move on if the project doesn't pan out.
I just have to stop you when you say things that simply aren't true about him. At the end of the day, he's a project that needs a lot of development in order to even be considered a part of the rotation. You need to temper expectations, man.
dude I don't think you know the difference between "project" vs non project prospects
Biyombo in his first few years = project. He didn't know where to be on the floor. Execute PNR
Chris McCullough = project. He needs to put on 15-20 pounds to even have a chance to bang with regular joe NBA players.
Mickey knows how to play + is 240 pounds (pretty good strength). You would get this if you made an attempt to watch one LSU game. Instead of coming up with a twisted conclusion. For example, dwelling on his 6'8 height. DE states he is this and that. He is ranked 45th by Chad Ford. Etc.
Watch a game man. You can start with the SL games coming up.
Let me ask you, why do think you're the only one that has watched Mickey play? Every time someone disagrees with you, you say the same thing and post the same old video (Kentucky highlights). You've become really blinded and so infatuated by this kid (hence your new photo) that you refuse to acknowledge any criticism. I hate to break it to you, but a 2nd rd pick with little to no offensive skills at the NBA level is a project. He's going to need seasoning on his offense in the D League, where hopefully he improves his shooting consistency, range on his shot, ballhandling, and to work on our team's defensive schemes/principles.
You also mentioned his "strong work ethic"? How exactly are you measuring this? Is there any report that can confirm this? I see a player that didn't improve from his freshman to sophmore season, so I'm curious as to this work ethic you've mentioned.
Eddie20 did you take a look at his stats from year 1 vs year 2 before your post?? He scored 3 points and 2 rebounds per game higher than the previous season (not even considering the fact he found out about his iron deficiency issue with about 5-6 games to go in the season). Is that a marginal improvement in your books? Bc to me 8 vs 10 rebounds per game is definitely a good improvement
Just so there is no confusion. Here are his numbers. BTW, he scored 2.1 ppg, not 3 ppg more, with worse efficiency in 2.1 mpg more. Again, can you explain to me this great work ethic you spoke about because it didn't translate into numbers?
FG%
Year 1 53.4
Year 2 50.4
FT%
Year 1 69.5
Year 2 64.6
MPG
Year 1 32.8
Year 2 34.9
PPG
Year 1 12.8
Year 2 15.4
RPG
Year 1 7.9
Year 2 9.9
BPG
Year 1 3.1
Year 2 3.6
TOV
Year 1 2.8
Year 2 3.7
True Shooting %
Year 1 56.6
Year 2 53.3
PER
Year 1 19.8
Year 2 21.7
Offensive Win Shares
Year 1 1.6
Year 2 1.2
Defensive Win Shares
Year 1 2.0
Year 2 2.6
You continue with that one game vs Kentucky. Tony Delk scored 50 in a game and I think Willie Burton had one game at 54. If I pull highlights from that game you'd think they were all time greats. I've seen Mickey play in HS (teammates with Mudiay) vs Monteverde (Simmons, D. Johnson, D. Russell), I've seen him play in college, and I've seen him at the combine. I think it's okay for me to form an opinion on him. Let me guess, I need to watch the highlight video you put of him, right? That video sounds really impartial.
you got the ppg incorrect. And you forgot to mention Mickey was the #2 ranked pf high school prospect in the lone star state.
last season (only 2nd year) led the SEC in bpg, rpg. Led the nation in BPG. Candidate for SEC player of the year. Made all defensive team. Made first-team All-SEC team.
What else do you want from him? to do backflips.
also if you are going to harp on one game theres no better one to go from than a Kentucky game. going up against the #1 and 6 pick he more than held his own.
Id rather see one game like this than 10 games against podunk university
absolutely. Mickey did very well vs Kentucky (6 players drafted)
You were right on the points. That was his per 40 numbers so obviously the averages went down.
He played well vs UK, but his rebounding (just 7 in 39 minutes) was underwhelming and still makes me question how he'll do in that department against the size of 4's and 5's in the NBA.
You also didn't mention anything on his 4 games in the tournament (2 conference/ 2 NCAA).
Those 4 games…
FG 12-38
FT 9-19
PPG 8.2
RPG 8.5
APG 1.2
BPG 3.0
TOV 2.7
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