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Re: Jordan Mickey 7'4" Wingspan 37" Vertical
« Reply #30 on: June 29, 2015, 01:08:20 PM »

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Mickey doesn't show much in the way of perimeter skills either, attempting just nine threes this season and making just one. He is a decent midrange shooter, converting 50% of his 2-point jumpers (34-68).

This already a poor analysis. Because as a PF ,he cant shoot threes at a good rate=  poor perimeter skills?

How many pfs in the NBA can actually shoot threes at an acceptable rate?

Mickey's bread and butter is defense. On the offensive end, he is more skilled than WCS. He doesnt project his passes and can hit the open man once he feels a double team is coming. Or hit the outlet man for a transition bucket. The promise is there to contribute on the offensive end. Review the highlight below(number 25).  He flashes his passing capability and other  parts of his offensive game. This guy is no Quincy Acy on the offensive end, the way that DE makes him sound like


http://youtu.be/dx4Ay5Er-XY

Re: Jordan Mickey 7'4" Wingspan 37" Vertical
« Reply #31 on: June 29, 2015, 01:34:04 PM »

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Mickey doesn't show much in the way of perimeter skills either, attempting just nine threes this season and making just one. He is a decent midrange shooter, converting 50% of his 2-point jumpers (34-68).

This already a poor analysis. Because as a PF ,he cant shoot threes at a good rate=  poor perimeter skills?

How many pfs in the NBA can actually shoot threes at an acceptable rate?

Mickey's bread and butter is defense. On the offensive end, he is more skilled than WCS. He doesnt project his passes and can hit the open man once he feels a double team is coming. Or hit the outlet man for a transition bucket. The promise is there to contribute on the offensive end. Review the highlight below(number 25).  He flashes his passing capability and other  parts of his offensive game. This guy is no Quincy Acy on the offensive end, the way that DE makes him sound like

The things you say simply aren't accurate.

On offense...
He has a high release point on his shot, but does not have much range at all. The college 3's stat is important because it's a shorter distance than the NBA 3 and shows how limited his range is. He has a very elementary, to be kind, post game. When the defense closes on the perimeter he usually goes right, but it's straight line drive and will often barrel over defenders for the charge. His ballhandling isn't good at all and neither is his passing/vision. He averaged 3.3 TOV and 1.3 APG, along with having a offensive win share of just 1.2. He doesn't have high IQ offensively, despite you always saying he does, and has a very poor feel at that end of the floor.

On defense...
He blocked a lot of shots, but that was in collge where historically undersized shotblockers don't replicate that at the next level. He may have a long winspan, but he has a short standing reach (just 8-10, for compasion James Young is at 8-8), which is probably because his neck is on the longish side. Something that should be factored into his already undersized height (6-8 1/4). He often gets out of position defensively because he tries to block too many shots coming from the weakside. This probably impacts his medicore defensive rebounding (7.1 per 40 minutes). He's very nimble and can rotate and hedge out on the perimeter, especially in pick and rolls.
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Re: Jordan Mickey 7'4" Wingspan 37" Vertical
« Reply #32 on: June 29, 2015, 01:38:07 PM »

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He's a good pick with #33.
 Hopefully he can crack the rotation this year and give us some decent weakside help when Olynyk is on the floor.
Could be a solid back up defensive big man in the NBA.
If we get really lucky he'll be a better version of Ian Mahinmi with some solid hedging and defensive awareness on a second unit.

Lucky best case? Maybe Taj Gibson?
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Read that last line again. One more time.

Re: Jordan Mickey 7'4" Wingspan 37" Vertical
« Reply #33 on: June 29, 2015, 01:57:23 PM »

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rj hunter also has 8.8 standing reach

Re: Jordan Mickey 7'4" Wingspan 37" Vertical
« Reply #34 on: June 29, 2015, 02:38:31 PM »

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You know, Mickey kind of makes me think of a younger Gerald Wallace.  He will make his mark with his defense and rebounding.  His offense will need development but he could be an intimidator in the paint against most 3/4 players.  You better watch the weakside if you're making a move to the basket and we have Mickey on the floor! 

What we really need to round out this team is a good SF like Tobias Harris, and a good starting C now.

Re: Jordan Mickey 7'4" Wingspan 37" Vertical
« Reply #35 on: June 29, 2015, 04:02:55 PM »

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Mickey doesn't show much in the way of perimeter skills either, attempting just nine threes this season and making just one. He is a decent midrange shooter, converting 50% of his 2-point jumpers (34-68).

This already a poor analysis. Because as a PF ,he cant shoot threes at a good rate=  poor perimeter skills?

How many pfs in the NBA can actually shoot threes at an acceptable rate?

Mickey's bread and butter is defense. On the offensive end, he is more skilled than WCS. He doesnt project his passes and can hit the open man once he feels a double team is coming. Or hit the outlet man for a transition bucket. The promise is there to contribute on the offensive end. Review the highlight below(number 25).  He flashes his passing capability and other  parts of his offensive game. This guy is no Quincy Acy on the offensive end, the way that DE makes him sound like

The things you say simply aren't accurate.

On offense...
He has a high release point on his shot, but does not have much range at all. The college 3's stat is important because it's a shorter distance than the NBA 3 and shows how limited his range is. He has a very elementary, to be kind, post game. When the defense closes on the perimeter he usually goes right, but it's straight line drive and will often barrel over defenders for the charge. His ballhandling isn't good at all and neither is his passing/vision. He averaged 3.3 TOV and 1.3 APG, along with having a offensive win share of just 1.2. He doesn't have high IQ offensively, despite you always saying he does, and has a very poor feel at that end of the floor.

On defense...
He blocked a lot of shots, but that was in collge where historically undersized shotblockers don't replicate that at the next level. He may have a long winspan, but he has a short standing reach (just 8-10, for compasion James Young is at 8-8), which is probably because his neck is on the longish side. Something that should be factored into his already undersized height (6-8 1/4). He often gets out of position defensively because he tries to block too many shots coming from the weakside. This probably impacts his medicore defensive rebounding (7.1 per 40 minutes). He's very nimble and can rotate and hedge out on the perimeter, especially in pick and rolls.

Are you still upset the Celts chose Mickey at 33?   

Don't worry Eddie20, you will learn to like him. 


Re: Jordan Mickey 7'4" Wingspan 37" Vertical
« Reply #36 on: June 29, 2015, 04:23:29 PM »

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Safe to say we'll see him at center quite a bit.  Sounds to be a strong kid.  How's his post defense?  Not that I'd be overly concerned if he wasn't a good post defender, given that very few players possess a solid post game these days.

Re: Jordan Mickey 7'4" Wingspan 37" Vertical
« Reply #37 on: June 29, 2015, 04:23:51 PM »

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Mickey was my favorite pick of this draft. I think he can turn into a solid NBA role player/borderline starter.


Poor mans Milsap with better defense as opposed to offense?

Nice comparison. Dont forget Chris Bosh in Leon Powe body and looks like Juwan Howard lol

Nice defensive play highlight below that leads to a alley hoope dunk.

http://youtu.be/a4nIMp9w348

He has some seriously long arms. I don't care about his standing reach.

Re: Jordan Mickey 7'4" Wingspan 37" Vertical
« Reply #38 on: June 29, 2015, 04:29:09 PM »

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I'm still in a mild ....state of shock and mourning. Over the loss of  ...I can even say his name now ...without crying ....weeping right now....

But if DA .......DID IN FACT  offer all those picks ....and the moron Hornets 6 picks  :o  turned it down....well fud muck ers .....just sucks the large one.

Then ......I feel somewhat better I guess .


I need to see these new guys play .    They are probably decent D leaguers anyway.   .....or tankers.

Rosier guy sounds too much like Smart to me. ......I like Smarts game ...I hope he isn't PO'd Rosier was picked .



Re: Jordan Mickey 7'4" Wingspan 37" Vertical
« Reply #39 on: June 29, 2015, 04:31:30 PM »

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Safe to say we'll see him at center quite a bit.  Sounds to be a strong kid.  How's his post defense?  Not that I'd be overly concerned if he wasn't a good post defender, given that very few players possess a solid post game these days.

at 00:41 second. Mickey #25 defense on Towns #12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvA-1x9aq4k

at 5:44 -  post defense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq4HB1c7W_4

Re: Jordan Mickey 7'4" Wingspan 37" Vertical
« Reply #40 on: June 29, 2015, 04:36:17 PM »

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I'm still in a mild ....state of shock and mourning. Over the loss of  ...I can even say his name now ...without crying ....weeping right now....

But if DA .......DID IN FACT  offer all those picks ....and the moron Hornets 6 picks  :o  turned it down....well fud muck ers .....just sucks the large one.

Then ......I feel somewhat better I guess .


I need to see these new guys play .    They are probably decent D leaguers anyway.   .....or tankers.

Rosier guy sounds too much like Smart to me. ......I like Smarts game ...I hope he isn't PO'd Rosier was picked .

you need to get over it and move on. Rozier is smaller than Smart but has a higher upside as a pg imo.  His explosive first step and leap + better ball handling skills will come in handy

Smart lacks these tools in his game.

Re: Jordan Mickey 7'4" Wingspan 37" Vertical
« Reply #41 on: June 29, 2015, 04:49:35 PM »

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Are we going to be able to count on Mickey for rotation minutes this year? No

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Re: Jordan Mickey 7'4" Wingspan 37" Vertical
« Reply #42 on: June 29, 2015, 06:59:40 PM »

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Mickey doesn't show much in the way of perimeter skills either, attempting just nine threes this season and making just one. He is a decent midrange shooter, converting 50% of his 2-point jumpers (34-68).

This already a poor analysis. Because as a PF ,he cant shoot threes at a good rate=  poor perimeter skills?

How many pfs in the NBA can actually shoot threes at an acceptable rate?

Mickey's bread and butter is defense. On the offensive end, he is more skilled than WCS. He doesnt project his passes and can hit the open man once he feels a double team is coming. Or hit the outlet man for a transition bucket. The promise is there to contribute on the offensive end. Review the highlight below(number 25).  He flashes his passing capability and other  parts of his offensive game. This guy is no Quincy Acy on the offensive end, the way that DE makes him sound like

The things you say simply aren't accurate.

On offense...
He has a high release point on his shot, but does not have much range at all. The college 3's stat is important because it's a shorter distance than the NBA 3 and shows how limited his range is. He has a very elementary, to be kind, post game. When the defense closes on the perimeter he usually goes right, but it's straight line drive and will often barrel over defenders for the charge. His ballhandling isn't good at all and neither is his passing/vision. He averaged 3.3 TOV and 1.3 APG, along with having a offensive win share of just 1.2. He doesn't have high IQ offensively, despite you always saying he does, and has a very poor feel at that end of the floor.

On defense...
He blocked a lot of shots, but that was in collge where historically undersized shotblockers don't replicate that at the next level. He may have a long winspan, but he has a short standing reach (just 8-10, for compasion James Young is at 8-8), which is probably because his neck is on the longish side. Something that should be factored into his already undersized height (6-8 1/4). He often gets out of position defensively because he tries to block too many shots coming from the weakside. This probably impacts his medicore defensive rebounding (7.1 per 40 minutes). He's very nimble and can rotate and hedge out on the perimeter, especially in pick and rolls.

Are you still upset the Celts chose Mickey at 33?   

Don't worry Eddie20, you will learn to like him.

I always said that at #33 I would't have a major issue with the selection. I wouldn't have gone with Mickey, but since his contract is not guaranteed we could easily move on if the project doesn't pan out.
I just have to stop you when you say  things that simply aren't true about him. At the end of the day, he's a project that needs a lot of development in order to even be considered a part of the rotation. You need to temper expectations, man.

Re: Jordan Mickey 7'4" Wingspan 37" Vertical
« Reply #43 on: June 29, 2015, 08:24:31 PM »

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Mickey doesn't show much in the way of perimeter skills either, attempting just nine threes this season and making just one. He is a decent midrange shooter, converting 50% of his 2-point jumpers (34-68).

This already a poor analysis. Because as a PF ,he cant shoot threes at a good rate=  poor perimeter skills?

How many pfs in the NBA can actually shoot threes at an acceptable rate?

Mickey's bread and butter is defense. On the offensive end, he is more skilled than WCS. He doesnt project his passes and can hit the open man once he feels a double team is coming. Or hit the outlet man for a transition bucket. The promise is there to contribute on the offensive end. Review the highlight below(number 25).  He flashes his passing capability and other  parts of his offensive game. This guy is no Quincy Acy on the offensive end, the way that DE makes him sound like

The things you say simply aren't accurate.

On offense...
He has a high release point on his shot, but does not have much range at all. The college 3's stat is important because it's a shorter distance than the NBA 3 and shows how limited his range is. He has a very elementary, to be kind, post game. When the defense closes on the perimeter he usually goes right, but it's straight line drive and will often barrel over defenders for the charge. His ballhandling isn't good at all and neither is his passing/vision. He averaged 3.3 TOV and 1.3 APG, along with having a offensive win share of just 1.2. He doesn't have high IQ offensively, despite you always saying he does, and has a very poor feel at that end of the floor.

On defense...
He blocked a lot of shots, but that was in collge where historically undersized shotblockers don't replicate that at the next level. He may have a long winspan, but he has a short standing reach (just 8-10, for compasion James Young is at 8-8), which is probably because his neck is on the longish side. Something that should be factored into his already undersized height (6-8 1/4). He often gets out of position defensively because he tries to block too many shots coming from the weakside. This probably impacts his medicore defensive rebounding (7.1 per 40 minutes). He's very nimble and can rotate and hedge out on the perimeter, especially in pick and rolls.

Are you still upset the Celts chose Mickey at 33?   

Don't worry Eddie20, you will learn to like him.

I always said that at #33 I would't have a major issue with the selection. I wouldn't have gone with Mickey, but since his contract is not guaranteed we could easily move on if the project doesn't pan out.
I just have to stop you when you say  things that simply aren't true about him. At the end of the day, he's a project that needs a lot of development in order to even be considered a part of the rotation. You need to temper expectations, man.

dude I don't think you know the difference between "project" vs non project prospects

Biyombo in his first few years = project.  He didn't know where to be on the floor. Execute PNR

Chris McCullough = project. He needs to put on 15-20 pounds to even have a chance to bang with regular joe NBA players.

Mickey knows how to play + is 240 pounds (pretty good strength).  You would get this if you made an attempt to watch one LSU game. Or acknowledged some of his accomplishments (leading the SEC in bpg, rpg, candidate for SEC player of the year).  Instead of coming up with a twisted conclusion.  For example, dwelling on his 6'8 height. DE states he is this and that.  He is ranked 45th by Chad Ford. Etc.

Watch a game man. You can start with the SL games coming up. 
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Re: Jordan Mickey 7'4" Wingspan 37" Vertical
« Reply #44 on: June 29, 2015, 08:33:46 PM »

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Mickey needs CBS and staff to help refine his game. He already has a good looking stroke, just needs to consistently shoot from balance.  It would be nice if Mickey can extend his range from 16-17 ft , but not mandatory

- cut down turnovers by sticking with making simple plays.
- Keep hitting the gym. Can reach 250-255 pounds in a year or so
- Get up to speed with the Celtics defensive and offensive system/sets