Yeah but I bet Kevin Love thinks he could be the best player on a good NBA team, too.
I am pretty certain he does, which would be the biggest factor in him moving on.
I guess thats why he consented to be traded to a team with Lebron on it and an upcoming star in Kyrie
whats your point? Use your words instead of eye rolls. I am certain that Lebron thought he could be the best player on a good team, but still joined up with Bosh and Wade. So why did he consent to join the heat? lets hear it bud.
Probably because he had never had team mates remotely on their level his whole career and wanted to win. Not sure what you point is? Lebron had 2 MVPs before joining the Heat! It wasnt even debatable who was the best player on the team. Hey they had chemistry issues 1st year but turns out chemistry cant be developed within 1 yr. They went on 2 win rings and reach 4 finals. Pretty sure Love would take Bosh's 2rings and 4 finals over 4 yrs of putting up stats while barely sniffing PO!
You act like his choices are to stay in Cleveland or go to the Bobcats. There are only a few teams in the NBA that couldn't find a way to offer him a max contract if he said he wanted to play there. I'm not going to really bother arguing with you on this because you are just saying the same thing over and over again. Meanwhile respected national writers are saying they think he may leave. If you want to have a basketball related talk like:
1) how his shot attempts dropped by 6 a game while Kyrie and Lebron stayed the same
1st year chemistry. Going from number option to number 2/3
2) The team added jr smith, mosgov and shumpert that play larger roles in the offense since when he joined
No they dont. Team just has more weapons to better their offense. . Jr takes open jumpers to space the floor Shump defends and shoots if he gets the ball. Mosgov protects the rim and gets bunnies/putbacks. Not sure what your point is here. If anything these players help Love becasue Mosgov can cover for him on D, Same with Shump and Jr spaces the floor
3) the team has played very well without him and have thompson requesting a giant contract with Lebron endorsing it.
Not sure what this has to do with Love either. Incase you didnt know Love and TT played most of the crunch time minutes for the Cavs this season. Surely watched the Cavs Cs series and saw Love make 2 clutch 3s in game 3 with TT crashing the offensive boards on the floor. They compliment each other pretty well. TT getting a big contract doesnt affect Love in anyway shape or form
Seriously? Jr Smith takes open jumpers? You are literally the first person in the world to describe his game that way. That includes Jr himself who said he prefers to shoot contested shots.
He shoots 3s! He spaces the floor. That was he does. Thats what he is ever going to do. I have no idea how that cant be a positive for Love given he gets more space to work when he posts up. Same for the rest of the team
As for TT and Love and their contracts not being related, I don't get how that is a serious argument. If you have the 3 of them, Mosgov, TT and Love, one of them has to come off the bench. I don't see either Love or TT coming off the bench at 14 or 20 million a year. If you are a player like Iggy that is north of 30, you can consider coming off the bench to win a chip. If you are 26 or 24 like TT and Love you don't do that smack dab in the middle of your career while getting 15+ mill a year. Their contracts and presence on the team as starting power forwards are definitely related.
TT came of the bench this season. Not sure why that will change next season just because he playing well in the playoffs. He is a role player and knows his role. HE is gonna make some coin this offseason. Thats all he will care about. He will still play 30+mins. He will stay play in crunch time with LOve. Whether it is smart for cavs to have an 11mil player on the bench is a completely diff issue. But again the player knows his role.
And am sure Lebron wants both LOve and TT to stay and will convince TT to come of the bench if there is any doubt (higly unlikely). Afterall Lebron pretty just made TT a bunch of money by being in Cavs because he def wouldnt be commanding such salary of Lebron wasnt around. You really are trying to manufacture something out of nothin! Just like the media! Oh well
yes. Me, the other posters here and other national writers from different sources are all manufacturing something that doesn't exist.
Well hey FA is 5 weeks away. Looking forward to your excuses as to why these plethora of "reports" didnt materialize to anything!! Will def be around
To be clear, I think i have said it is 50 50 he leaves pretty consistently, where you have put yourself in the unenviable position of saying there is no chance he leaves. I'll still give you props if he stays, particularly he if he does so without talking to any other teams. However, don't get what I have said twisted either. I definitely have not said he was a 100% leaving.
MY issue has never been whether you feel he is leaving or not. My issue has been all the so called logical reasons you keep bringing up for him leaving just dont compute. Esp for a player who not only has said time and time again his prority is winning.
To them I say: I don't care. I've never played in a playoff game. I came to Cleveland because I want to win. I'll grab a broom and sweep the floors if it gets me an NBA title."
His words exactly. HE is now in the perfect situation to realise this while being able to get the most money he can and have a legiit 4-5 yr title run. There just isnt any logical reason for him to throw all that away. Maybe if he was going to another contender then yes. But media are linking him with lottery teams/teams that have zero chance of sniffing the Finals. Thats why I know its all BS made strictly for controversy hence clicks.