CBSSports: 2015 NBA mock draft - Celtic picks

[Tr1boy]

I like Rashad Vaugn in the second round. Only 18, very good shooter, terrific scoring instincts. Sounds a lot like Devin Booker who is most likely going in the first half of the first round.

Me too. Dez Wells, qualls are also options with the 45

[gift]

Everything I read about Hunter is like "he doesn't shoot well, but he's a really good shooter, trust me".

[Eddie20]

I like this one. Good analysis. I would be good with these picks

   Kind of lacking in the big  department.   Mickey is only 6'8".

And so is Tristan Thompson, David West, Faried

On the flipside guys that are much taller like Hawes, Ryan Anderson , Ryan Hollins can't rebound nor block shots.   Height is not everything

I have stated several times also that Mickey has a 7'3.5 wingspan and ridiculous 37.5 max vert.  and it does matter.

None of those guys protect the rim though. If you're looking for Mickey to be an athletic type who hustles and gets garbage points, that's one thing. However, if you're looking for him to be a rim protector that's another story. Undersized 4's dont typically equal rim protection.

What does it matter if your 6'6 or 6'11. If you can rebound or protect the rim at a high level?

Mickey led in bpg last season.  His timing plus physical tools made it happen.

If mickey was 200 pound pf I wouldnt be excited. Maybe that is the way you are seeing him. But he is 240 and did not get moved easily

Below are the NCAA's top 10 in blocked shots for every season since 07-08. I stopped even though I could keep going, but you get the picture. Which is that historically speaking, undersized bigs that block shots well college doesn't translate on the next level against legitimate size.

1   Jordan Bachynski, C   ASU   32   30.8   132   96   4.13   5.35   1.38
2   Khem Birch, F   UNLV   33   31.4   124   76   3.76   4.78   1.63
3   Rhamel Brown, F   MAN   32   24.0   117   96   3.66   6.10   1.22
4   D.J. Cunningham, C   UNCA   27   25.7   98   81   3.63   5.65   1.21
5   Sim Bhullar, C   NMSU   29   26.2   99   78   3.41   5.20   1.27
6   Isaiah Austin, C   BAY   35   28.1   114   84   3.26   4.64   1.36
7   Cedric Kuakumensah, F   BRWN   28   25.0   90   97   3.21   5.15   0.93
8   Alec Brown, F   GB   29   30.4   93   63   3.21   4.22   1.48
9   Jordan Mickey, F   LSU   32   32.6   101   68   3.16   3.87   1.49
10   D.J. Covington, F

1   Nerlens Noel, F   UK   24   31.9   106   62   4.42   5.54   1.71
2   Chris Obekpa, F   SJU   31   25.6   128   77   4.13   6.45   1.66
3   Jeff Withey, C   KU   34   30.6   129   68   3.79   4.97   1.90
4   Zeke Marshall, C   AKR   32   28.1   118   85   3.69   5.25   1.39
5   Jordan Bachynski, C   ASU   33   25.6   116   69   3.52   5.50   1.68
6   Chris Horton, C   PEAY   31   24.7   100   77   3.23   5.22   1.30
7   Fred Sturdivant, F   TXSO   31   29.5   99   80   3.19   4.32   1.24
8   Damian Eargle, F   YSU   30   29.6   95   89   3.17   4.28   1.07
9   Austin Witter, F   NCAT   35   31.1   105   100   3.00   3.85   1.05
    D.J. Cunningham, C   UNCA   31   23.1   93   84   3.00   5.20   1.11

1   Anthony Davis, F   UK   34   31.6   157   66   4.62   5.85   2.38
2   William Mosley, C   NWST   32   29.5   126   83   3.94   5.34   1.52
3   Damian Eargle, F   YSU   31   31.4   116   81   3.74   4.77   1.43
4   C.J. Aiken, C   JOES   33   31.5   119   47   3.61   4.58   2.53
5   Eric Buckner, F   GAST   32   30.7   109   92   3.41   4.44   1.18
6   Darrius Garrett, F-C   RICH   32   25.6   107   77   3.34   5.23   1.39
7   Jeff Withey, C   KU   33   24.2   109   84   3.30   5.47   1.30
8   Gorgui Dieng, C   LOU   35   32.5   111   119   3.17   3.91   0.93
9   Alec Brown, F   GB   30   31.3   89   81   2.97   3.80   1.10
10   John Henson, F   UNC   32   29.0   94   52   2.94   4.05   1.81

1   William Mosley, C   NWST   32   28.2   156   99   4.88   6.92   1.58
2   Keith Benson, C   OAK   34   32.2   124   104   3.65   4.53   1.19
3   C.J. Aiken, C   JOES   33   27.5   117   64   3.55   5.16   1.83
4   Kyle O'Quinn, C   NORF   32   32.8   110   114   3.44   4.19   0.96
5   Sam Muldrow, F   SCAR   30   28.9   103   78   3.43   4.75   1.32
6   David Foster, C   UTAH   31   20.3   99   84   3.19   6.31   1.18
7   Danny Agbelese, F   HAMP   32   23.7   101   91   3.16   5.34   1.11
8   John Henson, F   UNC   33   26.4   103   55   3.12   4.74   1.87
9   Brett Royster, F   FAU   31   30.0   95   92   3.06   4.09   1.03
10   Greg Mangano, F   YALE   28   32.0   85   87   3.04   3.79   0.98

1   Hassan Whiteside, F   MRSH   32   26.6   174   81   5.44   8.18   2.15
2   Jarvis Varnado, F   MSST   34   31.8   163   84   4.79   6.03   1.94
3   Hamady Ndiaye, C   RUTG   32   28.3   145   92   4.53   6.39   1.58
4   David Foster, C   UTAH   29   21.7   115   71   3.97   7.32   1.62
5   Ekpe Udoh, F-C   BAY   32   35.1   124   77   3.88   4.41   1.61
6   Cole Aldrich, C   KU   34   26.8   118   89   3.47   5.18   1.33
7   Keith Benson, C   OAK   34   31.0   116   101   3.41   4.40   1.15
8   William Mosley, C   NWST   29   26.9   98   91   3.38   5.03   1.08
9   Patrick Sullivan, C   SELA   31   29.9   102   92   3.29   4.40   1.11
10   Sam Muldrow, F   SCAR   31   29.7   97   79   3.13   4.22   1.23

1   Jarvis Varnado, F   MSST   35   28.3   165   79   4.71   6.67   2.09
2   Hasheem Thabeet, C   CONN   31   32.5   142   78   4.58   5.64   1.82
3   Tony Gaffney, C   UMASS   30   33.9   115   61   3.83   4.52   1.89
4   Kleon Penn, C   MCNS   29   25.1   102   64   3.52   5.60   1.59
5   Taj Gibson, F   USC   33   33.9   92   94   2.79   3.29   0.98
6   Cruz Daniels, C   HP   30   26.2   83   87   2.77   4.22   0.95
7   Chief Kickingstallionsims, C   ALST   31   20.7   85   77   2.74   5.30   1.10
8   Luke Nevill, C   UTAH   33   32.0   90   93   2.73   3.41   0.97
9   Andrew Nicholson, F   SBON   30   25.1   81   99   2.70   4.30   0.82
10   Marqus Blakely, F   UVM   31   32.5   83   96   2.68   3.30   0.86

   Jarvis Varnado, F   MSST   32   28.4   148   91   4.63   6.52   1.63
2   Mickell Gladness, F-C   AAMU   29   30.6   131   72   4.52   5.90   1.82
3   Hasheem Thabeet, C   CONN   32   30.8   143   84   4.47   5.80   1.70
4   Kleon Penn, C   MCNS   29   24.6   117   75   4.03   6.55   1.56
5   Emmanuel Adeife, C   UNLV   1   16.0   4   0   4.00   10.00   0.00
6   Shawn James, F-C   DUQ   28   23.8   111   73   3.96   6.68   1.52
7   Jerome Jordan, C   TLSA   33   25.0   121   95   3.67   5.87   1.27
8   Kenny George, C   UNCA   27   19.5   92   32   3.41   7.00   2.88
9   Tyrelle Blair, C   BC   31   22.7   105   83   3.39   5.97   1.27
10   Kyle Hines, F   UNCG   31   32.3   95   86   3.06   3.79   1.10

[hwangjini_1]

eddie, great post. it was interesting and informative to see how blocked shots is NOT a stat that translates well from college to the nba. nice homework on this, so a tp has been delivered to your doorstep. 

[gift]

Also important to remember that blocked shots do not equal rim protection. I don't know if that's a case for or against Mickey.

[Tr1boy]

Im glad eddie20 you posted the list

Lets use Khem Birch vs Mickey as an example

Similar height. Birch has 7'0-7'1 wingspan vs 7'3.5
Both are explosive athletes. But Birch also is only 215 pounds vs 240.

This makes a big difference and that is why imo Mickey will be different than alot of these short pfs

Mickey also proved he held his own vs Kentucky trees , something we dont know if Birch was able to do against such talents.

There is no guarantee Mickey is an exception to the list . But he is younger than most you listed and the tools of 7'3.5 wingspan, 37.5 max vert, explosiveness and 240 pounds cant be ignored imo

[BornReady]

Pick 16 is very difficult to predict this year

A lot of guys have us going for portis
Who's is a solid role player at the 4

But i feel like we already have that in sully, olynyk , (jerebko + bass if we decide to keep them)

Maybe we should take a chance on upshaw
I'm confused with his situation
And haven't seen much of his game
But he's stats still look very impressive as well as his physical measurements
All I know is his great rebounder and shot blocker

[Tr1boy]

Like a taller, longer wingspan JJ Reddick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36dznrmdUYI

[Tr1boy]

I really like all the picks again.  The reason is , it adds missing elements

Hunter is a deadly shooter and scorer.  Pair him with IT in the 2nd unit. Add a hopefully better Young and our 3 pt shooting should nicely improve from last season. 

Mickey is a very good shot blocker, explosive pf.   Good replacement for Bass.  Minus the mid range jump shot (though Mickey can become consistent) and add a better above the rim presence. 

The two euro prospects are good for draft and stash situations.  One could become a Mirotic down the line for us. We can't really add all the picks onto the roster anyways

lineup after this draft prediction

C-  FA
PF - Sullinger
SF -  FA
SG - AB
PG - Smart

Bench

C- KO
PF - Mickey/Jerebko
SF - Crowder/Young
SG - Hunter/Young
PG - IT

*trade Zeller and ET
* Grab FAs to fill in the hole for the starting center and sf spots. Could be Kofous and Caroll/Butler/Middleton etc.