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Who gets the number one pick?

Timberwolves
18 (25.7%)
Knicks
15 (21.4%)
76ers
5 (7.1%)
Lakers
15 (21.4%)
Magic
4 (5.7%)
Kings
5 (7.1%)
Nuggets
1 (1.4%)
Pistons
3 (4.3%)
Hornets
0 (0%)
Heat
1 (1.4%)
Pacers
0 (0%)
Jazz
1 (1.4%)
Suns
0 (0%)
Thunder
2 (2.9%)

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Re: The 5/19/2015 draft lottery
« Reply #180 on: May 19, 2015, 09:45:06 PM »

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Re: The 5/19/2015 draft lottery
« Reply #181 on: May 19, 2015, 09:48:16 PM »

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Russell and Melo would be an exciting pair. I'd like to see that happen for New York.

Add some free agents who can boost their defense & rebounding and they could be onto something good next season.

Re: The 5/19/2015 draft lottery
« Reply #182 on: May 19, 2015, 09:49:02 PM »

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I don't regret we made the playoffs, but I don't understand people who are so anti-draft saying things like "it's a crapshoot" and all that. To an extent yes, because you don't always get superstars/all stars. Not every player turns out to be an MVP candidate. But high draft picks do give rebuilds a shot in the arm, whether as a player or as a trade chip.

I don't think any GM is drooling over KO or Sully, but Marcus Smart is the brightest spot on our roster and he's the product of a high draft pick. The Lakers, whom everyone had written off, is suddenly looking like they have a future with Randle and Okafor (most likely).

Thank you for saying that, TP.

Re: The 5/19/2015 draft lottery
« Reply #183 on: May 19, 2015, 09:52:03 PM »

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I don't regret we made the playoffs, but I don't understand people who are so anti-draft saying things like "it's a crapshoot" and all that. To an extent yes, because you don't always get superstars/all stars. Not every player turns out to be an MVP candidate. But high draft picks do give rebuilds a shot in the arm, whether as a player or as a trade chip.

I don't think any GM is drooling over KO or Sully, but Marcus Smart is the brightest spot on our roster and he's the product of a high draft pick. The Lakers, whom everyone had written off, is suddenly looking like they have a future with Randle and Okafor (most likely).

Thank you for saying that, TP.
I think it a reactionary thing, like when you have the mega tankers people feel the need to hit the opposite end of the spectrum so that it averages out to be like a reasonable statement.

I mean I saw someone post today that making the playoffs this year was the worst thing to happen to the Celtics in their entire history. Really?
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Re: The 5/19/2015 draft lottery
« Reply #184 on: May 19, 2015, 09:54:24 PM »

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Let's all be clear about something.  Unless they spend a lot of money and convince two or more top free agents to come aboard, the Knicks, Lakers, Sixers and Wolves will all suck again next year.  The Wolves might be the best of the bunch but that's because they were bad this year mostly due to injuries and blatant tanking at the end of the season.

Okafor and Randle might be a nice core for LA but it's going to be 3 or 4 years from now and after Kobe is gone.

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Re: The 5/19/2015 draft lottery
« Reply #185 on: May 19, 2015, 09:54:48 PM »

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Russell and Melo would be an exciting pair. I'd like to see that happen for New York.

Add some free agents who can boost their defense & rebounding and they could be onto something good next season.
It would nice if they jumped over the Nets. Same with the Lakers, Wolves, and Sixers. This draft lottery order could end up being a good thing for the Celts.

Re: The 5/19/2015 draft lottery
« Reply #186 on: May 19, 2015, 09:57:55 PM »

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I don't regret we made the playoffs, but I don't understand people who are so anti-draft saying things like "it's a crapshoot" and all that. To an extent yes, because you don't always get superstars/all stars. Not every player turns out to be an MVP candidate. But high draft picks do give rebuilds a shot in the arm, whether as a player or as a trade chip.

I don't think any GM is drooling over KO or Sully, but Marcus Smart is the brightest spot on our roster and he's the product of a high draft pick. The Lakers, whom everyone had written off, is suddenly looking like they have a future with Randle and Okafor (most likely).

I think a lot of the more extreme sentiment on both sides is reactive and compounded, which makes for some alternating 'TEAMS WILL NEVER BE GOOD UNLESS THEY LOSE EVERY GAME OVER THE NEXT SEVEN YEARS' and 'THE DRAFT IS TOTAL ANARCHY' posts.

You're most likely right. But I just seem to see the word "crapshoot" a whole lot, for some reason lol

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Re: The 5/19/2015 draft lottery
« Reply #187 on: May 19, 2015, 09:58:51 PM »

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Let's all be clear about something.  Unless they spend a lot of money and convince two or more top free agents to come aboard, the Knicks, Lakers, Sixers and Wolves will all suck again next year.  The Wolves might be the best of the bunch but that's because they were bad this year mostly due to injuries and blatant tanking at the end of the season.

Okafor and Randle might be a nice core for LA but it's going to be 3 or 4 years from now and after Kobe is gone.

Mike
The Knicks should be better. I can't see them shutting down melo again. The Wolves will be much better with Wiggins going into his second year and them possibly having healthy players around. The Lakers will have Randle back and may trade that second pick for Cousins. The Sixers I'm not sure about. I think they won't blatantly tank again but they need a lot more.

Re: The 5/19/2015 draft lottery
« Reply #188 on: May 19, 2015, 09:59:20 PM »

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I don't regret we made the playoffs, but I don't understand people who are so anti-draft saying things like "it's a crapshoot" and all that. To an extent yes, because you don't always get superstars/all stars. Not every player turns out to be an MVP candidate. But high draft picks do give rebuilds a shot in the arm, whether as a player or as a trade chip.

I don't think any GM is drooling over KO or Sully, but Marcus Smart is the brightest spot on our roster and he's the product of a high draft pick. The Lakers, whom everyone had written off, is suddenly looking like they have a future with Randle and Okafor (most likely).

There were takers for Olynyk and Sullinger. At the same time the Pro tanking crowd keep saying that the Celtics are mediocre, they don't have a future! That can get annoying after a while.

Re: The 5/19/2015 draft lottery
« Reply #189 on: May 19, 2015, 10:10:16 PM »

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Let's all be clear about something.  Unless they spend a lot of money and convince two or more top free agents to come aboard, the Knicks, Lakers, Sixers and Wolves will all suck again next year.  The Wolves might be the best of the bunch but that's because they were bad this year mostly due to injuries and blatant tanking at the end of the season.

Okafor and Randle might be a nice core for LA but it's going to be 3 or 4 years from now and after Kobe is gone.

Mike
The Knicks should be better. I can't see them shutting down melo again. The Wolves will be much better with Wiggins going into his second year and them possibly having healthy players around. The Lakers will have Randle back and may trade that second pick for Cousins. The Sixers I'm not sure about. I think they won't blatantly tank again but they need a lot more.

The Knicks were bad with Melo.

And the Cavs won 35 games with rookie LeBron.  Are any of these guys going to be better rookies than LeBron?

Mike

Re: The 5/19/2015 draft lottery
« Reply #190 on: May 19, 2015, 10:13:07 PM »

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I don't regret we made the playoffs, but I don't understand people who are so anti-draft saying things like "it's a crapshoot" and all that. To an extent yes, because you don't always get superstars/all stars. Not every player turns out to be an MVP candidate. But high draft picks do give rebuilds a shot in the arm, whether as a player or as a trade chip.

I don't think any GM is drooling over KO or Sully, but Marcus Smart is the brightest spot on our roster and he's the product of a high draft pick. The Lakers, whom everyone had written off, is suddenly looking like they have a future with Randle and Okafor (most likely).

There were takers for Olynyk and Sullinger. At the same time the Pro tanking crowd keep saying that the Celtics are mediocre, they don't have a future! That can get annoying after a while.
But we are mediocre. And a top 9 draft pick could have helped us land someone like WCS or Stanley Johnson. Why does the truth get you upset? We would be sitting a lot better with that ninth pick right now.

Re: The 5/19/2015 draft lottery
« Reply #191 on: May 19, 2015, 10:15:07 PM »

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Let's all be clear about something.  Unless they spend a lot of money and convince two or more top free agents to come aboard, the Knicks, Lakers, Sixers and Wolves will all suck again next year.  The Wolves might be the best of the bunch but that's because they were bad this year mostly due to injuries and blatant tanking at the end of the season.

Okafor and Randle might be a nice core for LA but it's going to be 3 or 4 years from now and after Kobe is gone.

Mike
The Knicks should be better. I can't see them shutting down melo again. The Wolves will be much better with Wiggins going into his second year and them possibly having healthy players around. The Lakers will have Randle back and may trade that second pick for Cousins. The Sixers I'm not sure about. I think they won't blatantly tank again but they need a lot more.

The Knicks were bad with Melo.

And the Cavs won 35 games with rookie LeBron.  Are any of these guys going to be better rookies than LeBron?

Mike
If those teams can win 35 games and the Nets drop to 32, I'll be just fine with that.

Re: The 5/19/2015 draft lottery
« Reply #192 on: May 19, 2015, 10:23:17 PM »

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I don't regret we made the playoffs, but I don't understand people who are so anti-draft saying things like "it's a crapshoot" and all that. To an extent yes, because you don't always get superstars/all stars. Not every player turns out to be an MVP candidate. But high draft picks do give rebuilds a shot in the arm, whether as a player or as a trade chip.

I don't think any GM is drooling over KO or Sully, but Marcus Smart is the brightest spot on our roster and he's the product of a high draft pick. The Lakers, whom everyone had written off, is suddenly looking like they have a future with Randle and Okafor (most likely).

There were takers for Olynyk and Sullinger. At the same time the Pro tanking crowd keep saying that the Celtics are mediocre, they don't have a future! That can get annoying after a while.
But we are mediocre. And a top 9 draft pick could have helped us land someone like WCS or Stanley Johnson. Why does the truth get you upset? We would be sitting a lot better with that ninth pick right now.

The truth is that the Celtics went from lottery team to an eighth seeded team. To many people that's a young rising team. Mediocrity is where you have no draft picks and limited flexibility because you overpaid bad players.

Re: The 5/19/2015 draft lottery
« Reply #193 on: May 19, 2015, 10:32:44 PM »

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Let's all be clear about something.  Unless they spend a lot of money and convince two or more top free agents to come aboard, the Knicks, Lakers, Sixers and Wolves will all suck again next year.  The Wolves might be the best of the bunch but that's because they were bad this year mostly due to injuries and blatant tanking at the end of the season.

Okafor and Randle might be a nice core for LA but it's going to be 3 or 4 years from now and after Kobe is gone.

Mike
The Knicks should be better. I can't see them shutting down melo again. The Wolves will be much better with Wiggins going into his second year and them possibly having healthy players around. The Lakers will have Randle back and may trade that second pick for Cousins. The Sixers I'm not sure about. I think they won't blatantly tank again but they need a lot more.

The Knicks were bad with Melo.

And the Cavs won 35 games with rookie LeBron.  Are any of these guys going to be better rookies than LeBron?

Mike
I expect the Knicks to pickup Monroe and another good free agent.  If they can trade the #4 pick for another good starter, they should be in much better shape next year. 

Re: The 5/19/2015 draft lottery
« Reply #194 on: May 19, 2015, 10:33:09 PM »

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Woj just tweeted that the Knicks pick will be available .

can we tag this as a preemptive response for any trade proposal regarding Demarcus Cousins?
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