Paul & Griffin: OVER RATED

[Smitty77]

Has either Chris Paul or Blake Griffin EVER been to the conference finals???

One of the greatest CHOKE JOBS in modern NBA playoff HISTORY!!!

Also, the FACT that Paul has been 1st team All-NBA Defense the last three years makes me SICK!!!  Yes, he has quick hands and gets deflections and steals, but he simply is NOT a great perimeter lock-up defender!!!!

Smitty77

[Roy H.]

It still puzzles me that the Clippers rushed to sign Spencer Hawes, instead of going after Paul Pierce.

I don't really blame the stars so much as I do everyone else on the team.

[jpotter33]

It'll be interesting to see what Doc does this summer. If he keeps DJ he has virtually no way of improving his team next year, and Paul and Crawford aren't getting any younger. He has too many max-level type players with not enough supporting cast around them.

[JohnBoy65]

I don't think those 2 are overrated at all. Doc has done a poor job building that team. No bench really. The starting 5 did a pretty darn good job this series.

[rondohondo]

It still puzzles me that the Clippers rushed to sign Spencer Hawes, instead of going after Paul Pierce.

I don't really blame the stars so much as I do everyone else on the team.

its all on Doc Rivers. He traded away Eric Bledsoe for JJ Redick and Jared Dudley. And then sign Spencer Hawes over  Pierce.

[Endless Paradise]

The only way Chris Paul deserves blame is for allowing Game 6 to unfold as it did. That said, claiming that CP3 is overrated and citing this series as proof pretty much reveals that you weren't paying attention to this series.

Blake deserves a huge amount of blame for shrinking in fourth quarters over and over and over again. That said, that happened because he was exhausted. That doesn't excuse his Game 7 performance, since he was largely invisible, despite putting up numbers.

DeAndre deserves a TON of blame for being a godawful free throw shooter.

The role players deserve a ton of blame for being absolute trash in the last three closeout games.

But the person most responsible? Doc Rivers. He's not only the architect of this team, but the Game 6 meltdown occurred under his watch.

[Smitty77]

Does ANYONE think that Paul deserves to have made either the first of second team All-NBA Defensive Team in 6 of the last 7 years???

Come on, this is RIDICULOUS!!!

Smitty77

[LGC88]

It is not enough to have a big 3, without a bench you are nothing in the long run.
I'm glad Houston pull up this series, great upset for LA.
It makes my day, I was tired of those same plays over an over with Paul & Griffin.
The western finals should be entertaining at least.

[LooseCannon]

I just think the core of the team lacks the mental toughness and intangibles for me to think they are credible title contenders.  I wouldn't be enthusiastic about any of these guys becoming a Celtic.

[Endless Paradise]

Does ANYONE think that Paul deserves to have made either the first of second team All-NBA Defensive Team in 6 of the last 7 years???

Come on, this is RIDICULOUS!!!

Smitty77

Yeah, because he's a great defender.

[Eddie20]

It still puzzles me that the Clippers rushed to sign Spencer Hawes, instead of going after Paul Pierce.

I don't really blame the stars so much as I do everyone else on the team.

its all on Doc Rivers. He traded away Eric Bledsoe for JJ Redick and Jared Dudley. And then sign Spencer Hawes over  Pierce.

That was actually a good trade for them in terms of fit. He messed up in what he did with Dudley. He included a 2nd rd pick in trade to acquire him and then gave up a 2017 1st rd pick just to trade him away. Dudley would've been an upgrade over Barnes and then they could've used the said 1st rd pick to acquire another player (Brandon Wright for example) before the deadline.

Paul played great and played his heart out until the end. Yes, he deserves to be all NBA defense. The guy is an excellent defender.

[Smitty77]

Does ANYONE think that Paul deserves to have made either the first of second team All-NBA Defensive Team in 6 of the last 7 years???

Come on, this is RIDICULOUS!!!

Smitty77

Yeah, because he's a great defender.

Do you TRULY believe that??  How does he compare to players such as Tony Allen (still), Paul George (when healthy), Kawhi Leonard, Jimmy Butler, or EVEN our own Bradley or Smart?

He is NOT a great lock-up perimeter defender and he has PROVEN to be a CHOKE in the playoffs.  We have years of history to back that statement up!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Smitty77

[SHAQATTACK]

Paul might be over rated

But ...NEVER

Over HATED.

[Smitty77]

It still puzzles me that the Clippers rushed to sign Spencer Hawes, instead of going after Paul Pierce.

I don't really blame the stars so much as I do everyone else on the team.

its all on Doc Rivers. He traded away Eric Bledsoe for JJ Redick and Jared Dudley. And then sign Spencer Hawes over  Pierce.

That was actually a good trade for them in terms of fit. He messed up in what he did with Dudley. He included a 2nd rd pick in trade to acquire him and then gave up a 2017 1st rd pick just to trade him away. Dudley would've been an upgrade over Barnes and then they could've used the said 1st rd pick to acquire another player (Brandon Wright for example) before the deadline.

Paul played great and played his heart out to the end. Yes, he deserves to be all NBA defense. The guy is an excellent defender.

Paul is quietly a dirty little defender that simply gets away with MURDER!!!  He fouled Harden before Harden crossed half court at least 7 times just in the last 4 minutes with NOT ONE FREAKING CALL.  ANY OTHER player would have been whistled on at least half of those.  It is VERY EASY to look like an "excellent defender" when you can FOUL and NOT get called for FOULING!!!!!  Almost any guard can shoot right over the midget Paul who has a rather limited vertical leap.  To call his a leap is a disservice to wording and shows the limits of our English language!!!

Smitty77

P.S. Go back and watch the STAR of the NBA purposely racking Julius Hodge in the ACC Tourney years ago and just did it again this year!!!

http://www.sbnation.com/2015/4/1/8329251/clippers-blazers-fight-chris-paul-big-baby-flop

Pure class!!!!!!!!!!!!!  NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

New link to the clearly PURPOSELY grabbing of Kaman's groin!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyzgQONsMik

More on Paul's history of shots below the belt:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GuIwgCUQVo

[GC003332]

Does ANYONE think that Paul deserves to have made either the first of second team All-NBA Defensive Team in 6 of the last 7 years???

Come on, this is RIDICULOUS!!!

Smitty77

Yeah, because he's a great defender.

Do you TRULY believe that??  How does he compare to players such as Tony Allen (still), Paul George (when healthy), Kawhi Leonard, Jimmy Butler, or EVEN our own Bradley or Smart?

He is NOT a great lock-up perimeter defender and he has PROVEN to be a CHOKE in the playoffs.  We have years of history to back that statement up!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Smitty77

The all defensive team awards aren't based on post season play , so his lack of team success doesn't factor into the voting.
Tony Allen has been selected 3 times in prior seasons, George,Leonard would get selected as forwards in the voting, he has only got to beat out other better back court defenders to get voted in.
 

Most of those awards go to known commodities , you have got to build up a body of work over years to get the respect league wide to get voted in ahead of established guys.