Author Topic: Idea: Gaillnari-Lawson to Sacramento, Rudy Gay to Boston, Assets to Denver  (Read 3791 times)

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Offline LooseCannon

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This trade idea is premised on the idea that there is no way Sacramento trades Demarcus Cousins, while George Karl wants to bring in some of his favorite Nuggets to surround DMC.

I have always opposed trying to acquire Rudy Gay.  However, two things have changed.  One is that he signed an extension for an amount that I find much more tolerable than his previous contract.  The other is that he has shown the ability to modify his game and function as a smallball stretch four and playmaking point forward instead of just being a volume scorer.

So, Denver goes into full rebuilding mode and sends Danilo Gallinari and Ty Lawson to Sacramento.  Maybe Sully goes to Sac'to and Denver gets the #16 pick and the Philly second-round pick.  Sacramento gives up Rudy Gay and Darren Collison.  They also give up a young player like Nik Stauskus and draft considerations.  However, a rebuilding Nuggets have no need for the veteran Gay and the likely #6 pick may be a bit of an overpay.

Enter the Celtics, who have a use for Gay as an upgrade on Evan Turner.  His bump up to 3.7 assists per game shows that he might have the passing ability at SF that the Celtics need to compensate for Marcus Smart and Avery Bradley's relative deficiencies in that area.

The Celtics give up a package of Jared Sullinger (or maybe Olynyk) and at least one first round pick for Rudy Gay.  Other contracts may be moved for salary cap math reasons.  Maybe Gerald Wallace's expiring contract gets sent to Denver.   The Celtics retain the ability to sign a major free agent.

The Celtics end up looking like:

a guard rotation of Smart/Bradley/Thomas
Gay/Crowder at SF
Bass and/or Jerebko brought back to split PF minutes with Olynyk
Zeller backing up a free agent center acquisition like Robin Lopez or Omer Asik

James Young trying to earn playing time.  Maybe Evan Turner sticks around, getting some of his minutes as the fourth guard.  Datome could be back for cheap as a guy who ha a chance of becoming that 40% three point shooter off the bench.  The Celtics may or may not have some rookies to fill out the roster, depending on what draft considerations they have to give up.
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I'm not entirely opposed to acquiring Rudy Gay.  I think he's become a little bit underrated due to his awful time in Toronto.

He's still one of the best scorers at the small forward position in the league, and as you note, he's improved as a shooter and as a passer.

Still, I'm not sure how good a fit he would be in the Celtics' offense, and Gay has always seemed like he'd be best suited to act as a small-ball 4.  Why the Kings have never tried that I don't know.
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Why?? Gay is overrated and overpaid

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Why?? Gay is overrated and overpaid

He's really not. He's a 20 PPG scorer who shoots 45/36/86 with 6 RPG and 4 APG, and is making just over $12mil next year.

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Why?? Gay is overrated and overpaid
I disagree on both counts.

Still not sure if I love the trade. Wed give up what? Sully, 16, 33, and a future #1 for Rudy Gay?
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Why?? Gay is overrated and overpaid

After this year, Gay's annual salary looks like this:

12 million
13 million
14 million

That's a really cap friendly deal for a 28 year old 20+ ppg scorer on the wing.
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Why?? Gay is overrated and overpaid

After this year, Gay's annual salary looks like this:

12 million
13 million
14 million

That's a really cap friendly deal for a 28 year old 20+ ppg scorer on the wing.
Not to put words in his mouth but I assume Triboy saw his 20 mil salary for this year and assume it extended for the next 3 years.
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Really plausible trade idea. I think Denver would want a little more, though. I don't think the 16th pick can get it done.

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Still, I'm not sure how good a fit he would be in the Celtics' offense, and Gay has always seemed like he'd be best suited to act as a small-ball 4.  Why the Kings have never tried that I don't know.

Mike Malone didn't like the idea.  George Karl has talked a lot about it and sees Gay as playing 10-15 minutes per game at PF, more with a favorable matchup, less with a bad matchup.
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Really plausible trade idea. I think Denver would want a little more, though. I don't think the 16th pick can get it done.

I left it open-ended by saying that the Celtics give up at least one first round pick.  So, I want to ask what is the most value that Ainge can give up and make this a good trade and what are Denver/Sacramento going to insist upon?
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Love it, especially if they could include Gerald Wallace so they could still sign someone, that would be ideal.

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Not opposed on trading for gay.. too much value given to the kongs

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Would make that trade in a heartbeat, wouldn't even have to think about it.


Offline BornReady

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Would not do that trade
 Mainly cuz I don't like gay
And I don't think he would be able to attract free agents as he is not one of those allstar SF

But I do believe Stevens would make the most of gay's talent like he has shown with other players these past 2 seasons

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not a fan of the deal.  would prefer to keep Sully and the #16 and not a fan of Gay.

actually have more interest in Lawson than Gay.