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Offline MikeJelly

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Let me ask you guys:
What would it take for the C's to move into...
A) The top 5 this year
B) The top 10
C) 11-13

Or what about moving up from the 28th to the 18-22 range?

Jelly

Re: What would it actually cost for the C's to move up into...
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2015, 06:22:52 PM »

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Re: What would it actually cost for the C's to move up into...
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2015, 06:33:37 PM »

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I doubt we could get into the Top 5 this year without giving up Smart. 

I mean, I get that at some point you could blow someone away with an insane offer, but I just don't see much incentive for a team to give up a Top 5 pick and get back a package built around a mid 1st. 

But I guess it just depends.  Is there a consensus #5 guy this year?  I thought the top 4 were pretty set.

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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2015, 06:35:19 PM »

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Very rarely a team is in position to want to trade away a top five pick period

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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2015, 06:42:01 PM »

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A top 5 pick is a shot at a franchise player, right?

So why would a team with that kind of pick give that pick up for the Celtics' pu pu platter?  If you're one of the worst teams in the league, why is the pu pu platter preferable?

Wouldn't the Celtics be trading away the pu pu platter in order to get a chance at a franchise player for the very reason that it's always better to have that one really nice asset rather than a bunch of mediocre pieces?
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Offline LarBrd33

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A top 5 pick is a shot at a franchise player, right?

So why would a team with that kind of pick give that pick up for the Celtics' pu pu platter?  If you're one of the worst teams in the league, why is the pu pu platter preferable?

Wouldn't the Celtics be trading away the pu pu platter in order to get a chance at a franchise player for the very reason that it's always better to have that one really nice asset rather than a bunch of mediocre pieces?
Yeah... best to just think about the roles reversed.  If Boston finally landed a Top 5 pick, how would you feel about them trading their prospective savior for a combo of mid 1sts.  Like if Boston had traded #6 Marcus Smart on draft night for #18 Tyler Ennis and #29 Josh Huestis, would you have been aiight with it?  Now imagine if Boston had landed one of the true star prospects like Wiggins or Parker and decided to flip it for James young and PJ Hairston.

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« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2015, 07:25:52 PM »

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Let me ask you guys:
What would it take for the C's to move into...
A) The top 5 this year
B) The top 10
C) 11-13

Or what about moving up from the 28th to the 18-22 range?

Jelly

-Top 5 is tough. I think it takes 2 trades, burn some assets to move up into the top 10, then burn a lot more to move up further. You could also use Smart - Smart + 16 for Winslow?
-Top 10 is more likely-- both Charlotte (#9) and the Heat (#10) might be looking for a young player who can contribute both now and later, instead of picking someone who's at least a year away from contributing significant minutes. Perhaps the Heat could be tempted by Sully + #16, and maybe the Hornets would make a trade including AB.
-To move up just a few spots, it might only cost the Clippers pick.

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« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2015, 08:06:30 PM »

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top 5
Smart and change
top 10
Probably Smart here too, but I think AB, Sully, 16 and similar ones like 16, Nets 2016, 45 and stuff like that
11-13
Not too hard here based on past trades it costs 16 and then 2 later picks. Any combo of 16 + 2 of Min/28/33/45/Philly 2 would get it done depending on how much value each team in 11-13 places on the pick. I think itd be possible to get up to that range for 16 and 45 + Philly 2 2016 but it could also cost as much as Min 1st and 28 or 28 and 33.
18-22
Once again not too bad, historically it costs a 2 to move around within the 20s so it would probably cost 2 seconds. I think 28 and 33 could probably get us close
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« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2015, 08:17:56 PM »

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The NBA isn't the NFL.  With only 9 or so guys who regularly play, trading very far down for multiple picks makes little sense.  #16 and #33 might move you up to #13 or #12 but that's about it.

Given that #5 this year looks like Justise Winslow, Smart and #16 might be able to get him but how would that be worth it?

Mike

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« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2015, 08:21:18 PM »

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Let me ask you guys:
What would it take for the C's to move into...
A) The top 5 this year
B) The top 10
C) 11-13

Or what about moving up from the 28th to the 18-22 range?

(a) Can't get into the top 5
(b) The #16 + either Sully or KO + possibly (probably?) one of the later picks (28 or 33) to get into the 7-9 range.
(c) The #16 and #28 for 13/14 pick and mid to late 2nd rounder. 11/12 looks harder. Both picks with no 2nd rounder is possible. Both picks plus the early 2nd rounder is more likely.

I think the 28th + 33rd gets Boston into early 20s.

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« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2015, 10:39:48 AM »

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I wouldn't be surprised if the Knicks traded their pick, even if it's the #1.
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« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2015, 11:10:36 AM »

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The NBA isn't the NFL.  With only 9 or so guys who regularly play, trading very far down for multiple picks makes little sense.  #16 and #33 might move you up to #13 or #12 but that's about it.

Given that #5 this year looks like Justise Winslow, Smart and #16 might be able to get him but how would that be worth it?

Mike

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