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How is Tyler Harvey considered a 2nd round talent?
« on: April 26, 2015, 09:22:38 PM »

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I know he comes from a lower division.  But is a 6'4" pg (good size) with good quickness and athleticism.   He has one of the sweetest strokes I have seen in a while.  He has shot the the three at 43 percent every year in college.  Last season also averaged 23 ppg.

The eye test tells me this guy is a 1st round talent.   Maybe he turns out to be another Lillard.  Anybody see some Steph Curry in his game?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPk3EG0tD28

Re: How is Tyler Harvey considered a 2nd round talent?
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2015, 09:28:38 PM »

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TP for the thread, and I agree with the Curry comparison.  If everyone is gone by 16, I'd probably take him then, as he can already do more than anyone on our roster, and at least we'd have a go-to guy.  I also don't understand him falling to the second round, either.  NBAdraft.net has him at 58 or something, iirc, lol. ::) Really?

Here's a couple of other highlight clips, btw.  Dude's hitting shots from the parking lot, haha. ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-f8gnk6oh0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaWwYHJcfZA

Re: How is Tyler Harvey considered a 2nd round talent?
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2015, 09:30:12 PM »

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Shhhhhh... You guys will ruin it.

Re: How is Tyler Harvey considered a 2nd round talent?
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2015, 09:30:26 PM »

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Draftexpress has him listed as a SG.

Only 2.4 assists per game against 22.9 points on 15.9 FGAs, 5.8 FTAs & 2.1 TOs.
Stats do not look like a PG. At least not a good one.

Re: How is Tyler Harvey considered a 2nd round talent?
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2015, 09:31:39 PM »

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TP for the thread, and I agree with the Curry comparison.  If everyone is gone by 16, I'd probably take him then, as he can already do more than anyone on our roster, and at least we'd have a go-to guy.  I also don't understand him falling to the second round, either.  NBAdraft.net has him at 58 or something, iirc, lol. ::) Really?

Here's a couple of other highlight clips, btw -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-f8gnk6oh0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaWwYHJcfZA

exactly. I think once Harvey starts nailing 3's after 3's at workouts he will definitely climb. 

I wouldn't mind getting Harvey.  Harvey and Smart could make a heck of a offensive/defensive backcourt setup if it all worked out

Re: How is Tyler Harvey considered a 2nd round talent?
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2015, 09:34:20 PM »

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Draftexpress has him listed as a SG.

Only 2.4 assists per game against 22.9 points on 15.9 FGAs, 5.8 FTAs & 2.1 TOs.
Stats do not look like a PG. At least not a good one.

He prob just did all the scoring lol.  I've seen some passing highlights and he can pass.  Some nice long lobs for alley hoop dunks.  A guy who can't pass well , can't execute that play

Re: How is Tyler Harvey considered a 2nd round talent?
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2015, 09:48:46 PM »

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Wow Beat LA, 16 is pounding the table. I don't agree but I love when people pound the table for their guy. TP

Re: How is Tyler Harvey considered a 2nd round talent?
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2015, 09:57:25 PM »

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Wow Beat LA, 16 is pounding the table. I don't agree but I love when people pound the table for their guy. TP

This guy could be the next Lillard or CJ Mcollum.

Tyler Harvey has such a quick release though.  Efficient 3 pt shooter.   

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« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2015, 09:59:56 PM »

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Wow Beat LA, 16 is pounding the table. I don't agree but I love when people pound the table for their guy. TP

This guy could be the next Lillard or CJ Mcollum.

Tyler Harvey has such a quick release.  Efficient 3 pt shooter.   
Don't have to tell me about him I posted about him in another thread.

Re: How is Tyler Harvey considered a 2nd round talent?
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2015, 10:00:25 PM »

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I don't get the Steph Curry comparison.

Curry has a sweet shot in his coming out party during the Tournament. And he learned QUICKLY how to be a PG in his Junior year, effectively might I add, while being one of the best players in college. If not for his lanky frame, he would have been a top 3 pick, but he obviously had NBA level talent.

Tyler Harvey, from what I've seen, is a shooter and nothing else. I didn't see the court vision, the handles, nor the offensive gifts Steph had, even in college. He's been catching and shooting already in Davidson, and learned how to run an offense. Harvey seems to be like a boss shooter with range and nothing else.


Edit: Okay, I've seen the higlights. Pretty impressive. I could be wrong about this...
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Re: How is Tyler Harvey considered a 2nd round talent?
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2015, 10:03:33 PM »

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I don't get the Steph Curry comparison.

Curry has a sweet shot in his coming out party during the Tournament. And he learned QUICKLY how to be a PG in his Junior year, effectively might I add, while being one of the best players in college. If not for his lanky frame, he would have been a top 3 pick, but he obviously had NBA level talent.

Tyler Harvey, from what I've seen, is a shooter and nothing else. I didn't see the court vision, the handles, nor the offensive gifts Steph had, even in college. He's been catching and shooting already in Davidson, and learned how to run an offense. Harvey seems to be like a boss shooter with range and nothing else.

3:05 lob pass.

What do you think? A guy without court vision can't execute that pass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPk3EG0tD28

Re: How is Tyler Harvey considered a 2nd round talent?
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2015, 10:07:00 PM »

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I don't get the Steph Curry comparison.

Curry has a sweet shot in his coming out party during the Tournament. And he learned QUICKLY how to be a PG in his Junior year, effectively might I add, while being one of the best players in college. If not for his lanky frame, he would have been a top 3 pick, but he obviously had NBA level talent.

Tyler Harvey, from what I've seen, is a shooter and nothing else. I didn't see the court vision, the handles, nor the offensive gifts Steph had, even in college. He's been catching and shooting already in Davidson, and learned how to run an offense. Harvey seems to be like a boss shooter with range and nothing else.

3:05 lob pass.

What do you think? A guy without court vision can't execute that pass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPk3EG0tD28

Yep. I could be horribly wrong with my armchair assessment. I based my judgment on his tournament performance. I watched the highlights and he seems to be a different player than what I thought.

He's got my attention.
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Re: How is Tyler Harvey considered a 2nd round talent?
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2015, 10:10:02 PM »

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I don't get the Steph Curry comparison.

Curry has a sweet shot in his coming out party during the Tournament. And he learned QUICKLY how to be a PG in his Junior year, effectively might I add, while being one of the best players in college. If not for his lanky frame, he would have been a top 3 pick, but he obviously had NBA level talent.

Tyler Harvey, from what I've seen, is a shooter and nothing else. I didn't see the court vision, the handles, nor the offensive gifts Steph had, even in college. He's been catching and shooting already in Davidson, and learned how to run an offense. Harvey seems to be like a boss shooter with range and nothing else.

3:05 lob pass.

What do you think? A guy without court vision can't execute that pass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPk3EG0tD28
Idk I'm also worried about his passing and ability to run an offense. I'm also a little concerned that his dribble penetration stuf won't work against nba defenders.

That being said those are concerns that go both ways. Maybe he does figure those two things out and then you have a Steph curry type.

I'd be ecstatic at 45 would be pretty happy at 28 or 33 because I think his stock will rose to about there but 16 is a reach.

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Re: How is Tyler Harvey considered a 2nd round talent?
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2015, 10:24:42 PM »

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I don't get the Steph Curry comparison.

Curry has a sweet shot in his coming out party during the Tournament. And he learned QUICKLY how to be a PG in his Junior year, effectively might I add, while being one of the best players in college. If not for his lanky frame, he would have been a top 3 pick, but he obviously had NBA level talent.

Tyler Harvey, from what I've seen, is a shooter and nothing else. I didn't see the court vision, the handles, nor the offensive gifts Steph had, even in college. He's been catching and shooting already in Davidson, and learned how to run an offense. Harvey seems to be like a boss shooter with range and nothing else.

3:05 lob pass.

What do you think? A guy without court vision can't execute that pass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPk3EG0tD28
Idk I'm also worried about his passing and ability to run an offense. I'm also a little concerned that his dribble penetration stuf won't work against nba defenders.

That being said those are concerns that go both ways. Maybe he does figure those two things out and then you have a Steph curry type.

I'd be ecstatic at 45 would be pretty happy at 28 or 33 because I think his stock will rose to about there but 16 is a reach.

If Danny can't move up (bc there is a guy he really wants to get)  ,  he doesn't particularly like anyone at 16 , I can see him swinging for the fences and reaching for Harvey.  Likely he will trade down to the early 20's and get a early mid 2nd .  Then draft a euro player - draft and stash situation

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« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2015, 11:13:21 PM »

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Apparently his defense is quite poor.  Harvey seems like a good choice for the early 2nd or late 1st pick but definitely not the 16th pick. 

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25162545/tyler-harvey-hopes-to-provide-shot-making-ability-to-an-nba-team