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Re: We get picks #16, #27, #33 and #45.
« Reply #45 on: April 16, 2015, 12:33:34 PM »

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Ideal picks are
16. Looney
27. RHJ
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Re: We get picks #16, #27, #33 and #45.
« Reply #46 on: April 16, 2015, 12:37:56 PM »

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I wonder if Ainge would consider going the OKC route and paying some kid to play in the D-League ala Huestis.

That 33rd & 45th pick seem much more attractive to me (and I'd think another team ) than the 27th guaranteed salary pick. (of course, depending on who's on the board at that time)
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Re: We get picks #16, #27, #33 and #45.
« Reply #47 on: April 16, 2015, 12:38:42 PM »

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Ideal picks are
16. Looney
27. RHJ
Second rounders best available foreign players to stash.
RHJ would be a great get at 27. I think realistically we would probably need to package the second with the 27th pick to move up a few spots to get him.

Re: We get picks #16, #27, #33 and #45.
« Reply #48 on: April 16, 2015, 12:52:09 PM »

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I'm surprised people don't think we have the roster space for 4 rookies. Guys like Pressy and Datome should not be kept. Bass will likely be gone. Sullinger is expendable and if he has a good game in the playoffs may bring good value, and Turner and Thomas are on bargain contracts and can easily
be moved for good value. I don't think any of them are viewed as building blocks.

Re: We get picks #16, #27, #33 and #45.
« Reply #49 on: April 16, 2015, 12:52:59 PM »

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If we make no moves, get Oubre at #16 and Johnson at #27. I'd be happy with that.

Re: We get picks #16, #27, #33 and #45.
« Reply #50 on: April 16, 2015, 01:02:08 PM »

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I'm surprised people don't think we have the roster space for 4 rookies. Guys like Pressy and Datome should not be kept. Bass will likely be gone. Sullinger is expendable and if he has a good game in the playoffs may bring good value, and Turner and Thomas are on bargain contracts and can easily
be moved for good value. I don't think any of them are viewed as building blocks.

Do we have the roster space? Sure.  Is having four rookies on the team a year before having even more draft picks the best use of roster space, especially when the team also has cap room? No, I don't think so.  Realistically we should probably have no more than four rookies over the next two seasons if we're trying to build a sustainable roster.

Re: We get picks #16, #27, #33 and #45.
« Reply #51 on: April 16, 2015, 01:04:58 PM »

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C's could do one of two things, trade up the draft or just straight up add more depth to the positions were we might not need it.

I have a feeling we would most likely trade up to get the center we need, the thing about getting DeAndre in FA is that he is in a better situation in LA and he is going to have to learn a whole new system and that is something that usually gets less resistance and frustation from a rookie.

I really like what I see in WCS, and if we could get that #6 pick out of the Kings hands we have a great chance of landing him, it might mean giving up one of our MANY(WAY too many) stretch 4s. It's cool to live by the 3 (and we all know what happens when they don't fall :P) but you should definitely add some bodies that can save you from dying by the 2.

I see us trading up.

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« Reply #52 on: April 16, 2015, 01:05:15 PM »

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I'm surprised people don't think we have the roster space for 4 rookies. Guys like Pressy and Datome should not be kept. Bass will likely be gone. Sullinger is expendable and if he has a good game in the playoffs may bring good value, and Turner and Thomas are on bargain contracts and can easily
be moved for good value. I don't think any of them are viewed as building blocks.

Do we have the roster space? Sure.  Is having four rookies on the team a year before having even more draft picks the best use of roster space, especially when the team also has cap room? No, I don't think so.  Realistically we should probably have no more than four rookies over the next two seasons if we're trying to build a sustainable roster.
Especially when we have a ton of picks next year. If we drafted four rookies we would most assuredly have to cut some to make room for the 2016 rookies.

Ideal picks are
16. Looney
27. RHJ
Second rounders best available foreign players to stash.
RHJ would be a great get at 27. I think realistically we would probably need to package the second with the 27th pick to move up a few spots to get him.
I am 100% in favor of such a move.
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Re: We get picks #16, #27, #33 and #45.
« Reply #53 on: April 16, 2015, 01:05:50 PM »

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Re: We get picks #16, #27, #33 and #45.
« Reply #54 on: April 16, 2015, 01:06:02 PM »

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I'm surprised people don't think we have the roster space for 4 rookies. Guys like Pressy and Datome should not be kept. Bass will likely be gone. Sullinger is expendable and if he has a good game in the playoffs may bring good value, and Turner and Thomas are on bargain contracts and can easily
be moved for good value. I don't think any of them are viewed as building blocks.

There could easily be room on the roster.  But taking on 4 rookies at once seems like a bad idea for a team that already has plenty of young players vying for playing time and development attention.  Asking too much of the coaching staff to adequately develop that many guys at once.  We'd end up with 3 or 4 guys in the D-League for much of the season.

Biggest problem for this team right now is quantity over quality.  Need some quality assets rather than another pile of OK assets.  Having 4 picks in this draft plus an overabundance of decent young-ish roleplayers seems like a good opportunity to try and consolidate.
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Re: We get picks #16, #27, #33 and #45.
« Reply #55 on: April 16, 2015, 01:07:30 PM »

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I'm surprised people don't think we have the roster space for 4 rookies. Guys like Pressy and Datome should not be kept. Bass will likely be gone. Sullinger is expendable and if he has a good game in the playoffs may bring good value, and Turner and Thomas are on bargain contracts and can easily
be moved for good value. I don't think any of them are viewed as building blocks.

Do we have the roster space? Sure.  Is having four rookies on the team a year before having even more draft picks the best use of roster space, especially when the team also has cap room? No, I don't think so.  Realistically we should probably have no more than four rookies over the next two seasons if we're trying to build a sustainable roster.

I don't think we are in the build a sustainable roster mode though. Despite making the playoffs due to a great coach and a terrible conference, we are in a 'collect assets and cash them in at max value' mode. If we can't get great value for our picks in the upcoming draft in a trade to move up or out, then it makes sense to keep he four rookies and let them develop some value rahther than keep guys like Pressy and Datome who will not gain in value at all.

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« Reply #56 on: April 16, 2015, 01:14:11 PM »

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I'm surprised people don't think we have the roster space for 4 rookies. Guys like Pressy and Datome should not be kept. Bass will likely be gone. Sullinger is expendable and if he has a good game in the playoffs may bring good value, and Turner and Thomas are on bargain contracts and can easily
be moved for good value. I don't think any of them are viewed as building blocks.

Why would you ever move Sully, Turner and Thomas for the #27, #33 and #45 picks in this draft?  Isn't it a little early to be tanking next season?

Mike

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« Reply #57 on: April 16, 2015, 01:19:49 PM »

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I'm surprised people don't think we have the roster space for 4 rookies. Guys like Pressy and Datome should not be kept. Bass will likely be gone. Sullinger is expendable and if he has a good game in the playoffs may bring good value, and Turner and Thomas are on bargain contracts and can easily
be moved for good value. I don't think any of them are viewed as building blocks.

Why would you ever move Sully, Turner and Thomas for the #27, #33 and #45 picks in this draft?  Isn't it a little early to be tanking next season?

Mike

I didn't say move them for those picks, we already have those picks obviously, but move what you get the most value for. I think we can get very good value for Turner or Sully packaged with a couple of picks rather than moving #27, 33, and 45 for future 2nds just to avoid taking on rookies, which would in essence be dumping some of the assets we had traded for.

Otherwise, dump guys like Pressey, Jerebko and Datome who have poor value and no upside, don't dump rookies or draft picks.

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« Reply #58 on: April 16, 2015, 01:50:57 PM »

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I think we can get very good value for Turner or Sully packaged with a couple of picks rather than moving #27, 33, and 45 for future 2nds just to avoid taking on rookies, which would in essence be dumping some of the assets we had traded for.

Otherwise, dump guys like Pressey, Jerebko and Datome who have poor value and no upside, don't dump rookies or draft picks.

I agree with most of this but I for one would try to sign Jerebko for a reasonable contract.   He is a great energy guy and has played all three front court positions at times.   He can spread the floor and rebound.  He also stays in front of us him.   I would not break the bank for him but I would make him an offer.

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« Reply #59 on: April 16, 2015, 02:13:28 PM »

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I think we can get very good value for Turner or Sully packaged with a couple of picks rather than moving #27, 33, and 45 for future 2nds just to avoid taking on rookies, which would in essence be dumping some of the assets we had traded for.

Otherwise, dump guys like Pressey, Jerebko and Datome who have poor value and no upside, don't dump rookies or draft picks.

I agree with most of this but I for one would try to sign Jerebko for a reasonable contract.   He is a great energy guy and has played all three front court positions at times.   He can spread the floor and rebound.  He also stays in front of us him.   I would not break the bank for him but I would make him an offer.
I've been surprised by how good Jerebko has been. And it doesn't seem to matter if he's playing 3 minutes or 20 minutes, he brings it every night.

Another strength of his is his handle. He is very strong with the ball when he drives into the lane. Also a strong finisher at the rim.