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Re: 2015 Boston Red Sox
« Reply #30 on: May 31, 2015, 07:45:18 AM »

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Re: 2015 Boston Red Sox
« Reply #31 on: May 31, 2015, 08:15:34 AM »

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The 3 worst Red Sox team OBP seasons from 1960-2015: 2015, 2012, 2014. In 2013 they won the World Series. The Cherington Era.

I'll take it, even if it does look more and more like luck.


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Re: 2015 Boston Red Sox
« Reply #32 on: May 31, 2015, 08:28:02 AM »

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Red Sox Stats ?@redsoxstats  May 27
The 3 worst Red Sox team OBP seasons from 1960-2015: 2015, 2012, 2014. In 2013 they won the World Series. The Cherington Era.

I'll take it, even if it does look more and more like luck.

Yeah, it's like those Marlins teams in '97 and '03 that won the World Series, but were pretty horrible otherwise. I would much rather suck most of the time and win the World Series every few years than whatever happened from 1918-2003. Ask Cubs fans how the feel about this.

Re: 2015 Boston Red Sox
« Reply #33 on: May 31, 2015, 10:39:57 AM »

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but the question is, is it really an either/or situation? why arent the sox capable of both fielding a credible team AND winning a championship once in a while. or at least contending and being in the playoffs frequently?

theo managed it. but cherington's approach is troubling in terms of its results, to say the least.
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Re: 2015 Boston Red Sox
« Reply #34 on: June 03, 2015, 01:54:34 PM »

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Can someone explain to me why Brock Holt, who leads the team in OBP, hits both LHP and RHP, and was a pretty successful leadoff man last year isn't your leadoff hitter right now? You just absolutely have to have Betts and his .250/.305 in there (and in the 2-hole to boot), don't you?

So infuriating.
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Re: 2015 Boston Red Sox
« Reply #35 on: June 03, 2015, 02:28:07 PM »

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Red Sox Stats ?@redsoxstats  May 27
The 3 worst Red Sox team OBP seasons from 1960-2015: 2015, 2012, 2014. In 2013 they won the World Series. The Cherington Era.

I'll take it, even if it does look more and more like luck.

Yup. I'll take it too!
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Re: 2015 Boston Red Sox
« Reply #36 on: June 03, 2015, 02:30:16 PM »

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Can someone explain to me why Brock Holt, who leads the team in OBP, hits both LHP and RHP, and was a pretty successful leadoff man last year isn't your leadoff hitter right now? You just absolutely have to have Betts and his .250/.305 in there (and in the 2-hole to boot), don't you?

So infuriating.

This is a good point, one I hadn't considered. My only guess right now is that Farrell doesn't want to do anything that might hurt the confidence of Betts, whom the team considers a future star, whereas Holt has been pegged (for better or worse) as a super-utility player.
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Re: 2015 Boston Red Sox
« Reply #37 on: June 03, 2015, 02:30:23 PM »

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it looks like the sox may have stumbled on to a pitcher. This guy rodriguez guy has been lights out since he came up (granted only 1.5 starts right now). However, he now has 13 strikeouts in 12 innings pitched to start his career.

Re: 2015 Boston Red Sox
« Reply #38 on: June 03, 2015, 02:36:42 PM »

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it looks like the sox may have stumbled on to a pitcher. This guy rodriguez guy has been lights out since he came up (granted only 1.5 starts right now). However, he now has 13 strikeouts in 12 innings pitched to start his career.

yeah EROD.  electric stuff. hides the ball so well. Compact "snap" delivery. 

Redsox need to make a trade to get one more pitcher.   Kelly needs to go to the bullpen.  Miley is good as the 5th guy.  Porcello is like a 3rd, 4th guy. Can't believe we overpaid for him. Bucholz is inconsistent. I think he might get injured at any point

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« Reply #39 on: June 03, 2015, 02:42:09 PM »

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it looks like the sox may have stumbled on to a pitcher. This guy rodriguez guy has been lights out since he came up (granted only 1.5 starts right now). However, he now has 13 strikeouts in 12 innings pitched to start his career.

yeah EROD.  electric stuff. hides the ball so well. Compact "snap" delivery. 

Redsox need to make a trade to get one more pitcher.   Kelly needs to go to the bullpen.  Miley is good as the 5th guy.  Porcello is like a 3rd, 4th guy. Can't believe we overpaid for him. Bucholz is inconsistent. I think he might get injured at any point
Buchholz is inconsistent indeed, but I was checking his game log and was surprised to see how solid he's been last month. Somehow it feels like he's a disaster waiting to happen every game, but ever since the second game of the season when he gave up 10 runs in 3 innings, he's been going 7+ pretty consistently, and most starts have been quality.
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Re: 2015 Boston Red Sox
« Reply #40 on: June 03, 2015, 02:56:49 PM »

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Red Sox Stats ?@redsoxstats  May 27
The 3 worst Red Sox team OBP seasons from 1960-2015: 2015, 2012, 2014. In 2013 they won the World Series. The Cherington Era.

I'll take it, even if it does look more and more like luck.

Yeah, I'll take it, but to me it's still means something to put a team on the field that can play quality, entertaining, competitive baseball pretty much every year.

Putting a terrible team out there most every year and occasionally having a really great year doesn't do it for me.
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Re: 2015 Boston Red Sox
« Reply #41 on: June 03, 2015, 03:55:44 PM »

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it looks like the sox may have stumbled on to a pitcher. This guy rodriguez guy has been lights out since he came up (granted only 1.5 starts right now). However, he now has 13 strikeouts in 12 innings pitched to start his career.

yeah EROD.  electric stuff. hides the ball so well. Compact "snap" delivery. 

Redsox need to make a trade to get one more pitcher.   Kelly needs to go to the bullpen.  Miley is good as the 5th guy.  Porcello is like a 3rd, 4th guy. Can't believe we overpaid for him. Bucholz is inconsistent. I think he might get injured at any point
Buchholz is inconsistent indeed, but I was checking his game log and was surprised to see how solid he's been last month. Somehow it feels like he's a disaster waiting to happen every game, but ever since the second game of the season when he gave up 10 runs in 3 innings, he's been going 7+ pretty consistently, and most starts have been quality.

at any point even as we speak he  could get injured.  Bucholz has a bad body for sports. Talented but lacks a strong body, stamina

Redsox have a log jam outside of pitching and should make a trade sooner than later

Victorino , Napoli could be traded (bad contracts but still). You can add prospects for say Hamels.  Ramirez is a bad outfielder and should be moved to 1st base. 

Lineup after a trade

2B Pedroia
C  Betts
1b Ramirez
DH Ortiz
3B Sandoval
RF Castillo
SS Boegarts
LF  Bradley jr/Craig/Holt
C  Swihart/Leon

P - Hamels
P - Erod
P - Porcello
P-  Bucholz
P-  Miley

Re: 2015 Boston Red Sox
« Reply #42 on: June 03, 2015, 04:23:13 PM »

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it looks like the sox may have stumbled on to a pitcher. This guy rodriguez guy has been lights out since he came up (granted only 1.5 starts right now). However, he now has 13 strikeouts in 12 innings pitched to start his career.

yeah EROD.  electric stuff. hides the ball so well. Compact "snap" delivery. 

Redsox need to make a trade to get one more pitcher.   Kelly needs to go to the bullpen.  Miley is good as the 5th guy.  Porcello is like a 3rd, 4th guy. Can't believe we overpaid for him. Bucholz is inconsistent. I think he might get injured at any point
Buchholz is inconsistent indeed, but I was checking his game log and was surprised to see how solid he's been last month. Somehow it feels like he's a disaster waiting to happen every game, but ever since the second game of the season when he gave up 10 runs in 3 innings, he's been going 7+ pretty consistently, and most starts have been quality.

Buchholz always scares me, but he's been quite impressive his last 4 starts in particular—30 2/3 innings, allowed only 5 earned runs, had 27 Ks, and lowered his ERA from 5.73 to 3.82. Only problem is the Sox scored exactly 1 run in each of those 4 starts, so before last night's narrow win he had a 1-run loss, a 2-run loss, and a 1-run no decision. In fact, the Sox have scored just 1 run in 7 or his 11 starts this season.
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Re: 2015 Boston Red Sox
« Reply #43 on: June 03, 2015, 05:24:34 PM »

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it looks like the sox may have stumbled on to a pitcher. This guy rodriguez guy has been lights out since he came up (granted only 1.5 starts right now). However, he now has 13 strikeouts in 12 innings pitched to start his career.

yeah EROD.  electric stuff. hides the ball so well. Compact "snap" delivery. 

Redsox need to make a trade to get one more pitcher.   Kelly needs to go to the bullpen.  Miley is good as the 5th guy.  Porcello is like a 3rd, 4th guy. Can't believe we overpaid for him. Bucholz is inconsistent. I think he might get injured at any point
Buchholz is inconsistent indeed, but I was checking his game log and was surprised to see how solid he's been last month. Somehow it feels like he's a disaster waiting to happen every game, but ever since the second game of the season when he gave up 10 runs in 3 innings, he's been going 7+ pretty consistently, and most starts have been quality.

at any point even as we speak he  could get injured.  Bucholz has a bad body for sports. Talented but lacks a strong body, stamina

Redsox have a log jam outside of pitching and should make a trade sooner than later

Victorino , Napoli could be traded (bad contracts but still). You can add prospects for say Hamels.  Ramirez is a bad outfielder and should be moved to 1st base. 

Lineup after a trade

2B Pedroia
C  Betts
1b Ramirez
DH Ortiz
3B Sandoval
RF Castillo
SS Boegarts
LF  Bradley jr/Craig/Holt
C  Swihart/Leon

P - Hamels
P - Erod
P - Porcello
P-  Bucholz
P-  Miley

I do think we need someone like Hamels, but I am not sure we don't also need a bad. I don't think an outfield of Bradley/Holt Betts and Castillo can be considered because all three are probably below average batters right now and they would probably hit a combined 15 homeruns over the course of a season. That is just not enough. You throw in the fact that we have very below average hitting coming from catching and we would need to be in the national league for that kind of lineup to work imo. 

Re: 2015 Boston Red Sox
« Reply #44 on: June 03, 2015, 09:22:04 PM »

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