2016 draft Prospects

[Future Celtics Owner]

Bringing back the 2016 draft prospects thread. It is important  to reflect on our player assessments so we can evolve. Please feel free to update and add insight to any new prospects, low and high profile.

We all know Ben Simmons and Jaylen Brown, Thon Maker and Ivan Rabb. But lets keep our eyes open for guys that will hit the college/int scene out of nowhere or make a huge jump in rankings.

Here is Thomas bryant(pf/c):6'9''-6'10'', 7'6'' wingspan, and 9'5'' standing reach

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Thomas-Bryant-7231/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gChte3yrUwE

[Eddie20]

Some measurements taken at the Hoop Summit:

Zhou Qi
Height (w/ shoes): 7-2
Weight: 209
Wingspan: 7-6 1/2
Hand Width: 10
Hand Length: 9 1/2
Standing Reach: 9-6 1/2
Country: China

-One of the tallest players measured at the Hoop Summit all-time, Qi's wingspan ranks among the 25 longest in our extensive database. He ties for the longest hands of any player on the World Team with George Lucas. His 209-pound frame remains the biggest question-mark regarding his NBA potential as he is painfully skinny at this stage and has a narrow frame that might not have great potential for growth. John Henson (7-5 wingspan, 9-4 standing reach, 216 pounds) seems to be the best body comp we can find for Qi, even if the Chinese big man towers over him at 7-2 (Henson is 6-10 ½ in shoes).



Thon Maker
Height (w/ shoes): 7-0
Weight: 218
Wingspan: 7-3 1/4
Hand Width: 9
Hand Length: 9
Standing Reach: 9-3
Country: Sudan

-Maker's terrific 9-3 standing reach stands out immediately among power forwards, as it's one of the ten longest in our database at that position. While his skill-set and scoring instincts aren't even in the same stratosphere and his game doesn't really resemble his much at all, the closest comp we can find in terms of body type is indeed that of Kevin Durant's. He's actually 12 pounds heavier than Nerlens Noel was coming out of Kentucky, so there is definitely plenty of time for him to continue to fill out.

[Future Celtics Owner]

Some measurements taken at the Hoop Summit:

Zhou Qi
Height (w/ shoes): 7-2
Weight: 209
Wingspan: 7-6 1/2
Hand Width: 10
Hand Length: 9 1/2
Standing Reach: 9-6 1/2
Country: China

-One of the tallest players measured at the Hoop Summit all-time, Qi's wingspan ranks among the 25 longest in our extensive database. He ties for the longest hands of any player on the World Team with George Lucas. His 209-pound frame remains the biggest question-mark regarding his NBA potential as he is painfully skinny at this stage and has a narrow frame that might not have great potential for growth. John Henson (7-5 wingspan, 9-4 standing reach, 216 pounds) seems to be the best body comp we can find for Qi, even if the Chinese big man towers over him at 7-2 (Henson is 6-10 ½ in shoes).



Thon Maker
Height (w/ shoes): 7-0
Weight: 218
Wingspan: 7-3 1/4
Hand Width: 9
Hand Length: 9
Standing Reach: 9-3
Country: Sudan

-Maker's terrific 9-3 standing reach stands out immediately among power forwards, as it's one of the ten longest in our database at that position. While his skill-set and scoring instincts aren't even in the same stratosphere and his game doesn't really resemble his much at all, the closest comp we can find in terms of body type is indeed that of Kevin Durant's. He's actually 12 pounds heavier than Nerlens Noel was coming out of Kentucky, so there is definitely plenty of time for him to continue to fill out.

Thon has more length than I last saw on  draftexpress

thanks for the update. tp

[saltlover]

Since I thought the post was about Pop-up players who are not incoming freshman or widely known internationals like Thon Maker, allow me to mention Zak Irvin of Michigan.  Currently a sophomore, at the beginning of the year he was a mid 1st round pick this year to many prognosticators.  And then he had a very disappointing November-January, as his game stagnated and saw him settle for too many jumpers.  However, in February, the growth happened, as he started driving, creating for his teammates, and being active on the boards.  If he continues this advancement into next season, his 1st round projections will have been a year late, but not wrong. 

[Eddie20]

More from DXpress

Ben Simmons
Height (w/ shoes): 6-10
Weight: 239
Wingspan: 6-11
Hand Width: 10
Hand Length: 9
Standing Reach: 8-7
Country: Australia

Simmons measured two inches taller here than he did this past summer at the Lebron James Skills Academy. This is our first look at his wingspan and standing reach measurements, which both appear to be slightly underwhelming for a NBA small forward, let alone a power forward. Simmons' standing reach in particular is clearly that of a small forward, and his overall measurements are similar to those of a taller Tobias Harris or Joffrey Lauvergne.

[Future Celtics Owner]

Brandon Ingram is a sf who I have had my eye on. Here are his measurements from the hoop summit.
Height (w/ shoes): 6-9.5
Height (w/o shoes): 6-8
Weight: 195.8
Wingspan: 7-3
Standing Reach: 9-1.5

Small forward Brandon Ingram certainly looks the part of a high upside small forward prospect registering the 2nd longest wingspan on this roster with a frame that has a lot of potential for growth. His wingspan ranks among the most impressive wingspans for a small forward in our extensive database. His standing reach is equally impressive, ranking just a half an inch below that of Kevin Durant who measured 6-10.25 in shoes with a 7-4.75 wingspan and a 215-pound frame in 2007. Ingram's frame will need a lot of work at 196 pounds, but his height, wingspan and standing reach are phenomenal for a wing player.

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz3XE4REreu
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[Future Celtics Owner]

Brandon Ingram is a sf who I have had my eye on. Here are his measurements from the hoop summit.
Height (w/ shoes): 6-9.5
Height (w/o shoes): 6-8
Weight: 195.8
Wingspan: 7-3
Standing Reach: 9-1.5

Small forward Brandon Ingram certainly looks the part of a high upside small forward prospect registering the 2nd longest wingspan on this roster with a frame that has a lot of potential for growth. His wingspan ranks among the most impressive wingspans for a small forward in our extensive database. His standing reach is equally impressive, ranking just a half an inch below that of Kevin Durant who measured 6-10.25 in shoes with a 7-4.75 wingspan and a 215-pound frame in 2007. Ingram's frame will need a lot of work at 196 pounds, but his height, wingspan and standing reach are phenomenal for a wing player.

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz3XE4REreu
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Also he does not turn 18 until september.

[nickagneta]

Really?!?!?

We haven't even had the 2015 NBA Draft Lottery and there's threads about 17 year old kids that might be available to draft in 2016.

This all happened about a year ago and people started drooling over. Okafor and Towns and guess what? The Celtics made the playoffs and came nowhere close to being able to draft either player. Also, once they got to college they showed that both are probably a lot closer to being Al Jefferson good than Tim Duncan good.

Can we at least get through this year's playoff run before talking about players at the top of the 2016 draft

[Csfan1984]

The kid from Haiti looks pretty good. Thought Simmons worked great with him so we need two high 1s lol

[Future Celtics Owner]

Really?!?!?

We haven't even had the 2015 NBA Draft Lottery and there's threads about 17 year old kids that might be available to draft in 2016.

This all happened about a year ago and people started drooling over. Okafor and Towns and guess what? The Celtics made the playoffs and came nowhere close to being able to draft either player. Also, once they got to college they showed that both are probably a lot closer to being Al Jefferson good than Tim Duncan good.

Can we at least get through this year's playoff run before talking about players at the top of the 2016 draft

I get your point Nick, but this thread is for the Celts fans that enjoy the scouting and draft process. Also because we have BKN pick next year, that many believe will be lottery, fans want to know who will be on the radar.

[SHAQATTACK]

Did I miss the 2015 draft 

LOL.....

Holy cow .....I m just now getting to know a few of the 2015 top thirty ....LOL

[Csfan1984]

I like draft stuff and long term views. I was also talking nfl draft to people I know the Wednesday after superbowl. So C's draft 2016 isn't early given the team make up imo. C's need a lot.

[Eddie20]

Really?!?!?

We haven't even had the 2015 NBA Draft Lottery and there's threads about 17 year old kids that might be available to draft in 2016.

This all happened about a year ago and people started drooling over. Okafor and Towns and guess what? The Celtics made the playoffs and came nowhere close to being able to draft either player. Also, once they got to college they showed that both are probably a lot closer to being Al Jefferson good than Tim Duncan good.

Can we at least get through this year's playoff run before talking about players at the top of the 2016 draft

You wasted more time posting that then simply ignoring a thread that doesn't impact you at all. Regardless, it's a forum that has subtopics about random things often not even related to basketball, so what's the issue, really?

[Eddie20]

Chad Ford-

PORTLAND, Ore. -- A huge contingent of NBA scouts and GMs traveled to Chicago and Portland the past few weeks to attend the practices and games for the McDonald's All-American and Nike Hoop Summit and get a closer look at the prospective 2016 NBA draft class. Here in Portland, as many as 10 potential 2016 first-rounders played at the Nike Hoop Summit -- most of them potential lottery picks.

I spoke with a number of NBA scouts about which of the players from the high school class of 2015 might be NBA players someday.

The consensus from NBA scouts is that this class isn't as strong as in years past. While there are a few intriguing names at the top, the depth isn't nearly what it's been.

"The last couple of years we've had steak," one NBA scout said. "This year, after the first two or three guys are off the board, we get hamburger. Good hamburger, but hamburger nonetheless."

Still, with so many underclassmen deciding to declare for the 2015 NBA draft, they aren't going to have much competition. Right now we only have one returning college player likely to crack our top 10 in 2016 -- San Diego State's Malik Pope. That could change if Utah's Jakob Poeltl, Arizona's Stanley Johnson, Arkansas' Bobby Portis or Providence's Kris Dunn decide to return to school. But right now Pope's the only guy that can compete with the top players on this list.

Based on numerous discussions with scouts, here's a sneak peek at 10 high school prospects who should be topping our 2016 Big Board when it's released in July.

1. Ben Simmons, F, committed to LSU

McDonald's: 7 points, 10 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 steals in 19 minutes
Hoop Summit: 13 points, 9 rebounds, 9 assists, 2 steals in 30 minutes

Simmons came into April widely regarded as the most likely candidate to be the No. 1 pick in 2016. He's a very unique prospect. He's 6-foot-10 and 240 pounds, but plays like a point forward. He has incredible ball-handling and passing vision for his size, which is why some scouts see him as a poor man's LeBron James. He certainly models his game after James, though he lacks the elite explosiveness of LeBron. Nevertheless, he's also a good athlete that can get wherever he wants on the floor. His jump shot needs polish, he's not particularly long for his position and sometimes he needs to be more aggressive hunting for his shot. But as he showed in the Hoop Summit, he's a potential triple-double machine on any given night -- grabbing boards, leading the break, throwing behind-the-back passes and finishing strong at the rim. If LSU let's him run the show as a freshman, he's going to be a big deal next year.


2. Skal Labissiere, F/C, committed to Kentucky

Hoop Summit: 21 pts, 6 rebs, 6 blks in 27 mins

Labissiere should be Simmons' primary competition for the No. 1 pick in 2016. He wowed NBA scouts in Hoop Summit practices and in the game with his size, athleticism and overall skills on both ends of the ball. If Simmons is a poor man's LeBron James, Labissiere is a poor man's Anthony Davis. He has a soft touch in the post, can step out and nail mid-range and 3-point jumpers, can handle the ball and is an emerging rim protector. His lack of elite length for his position is a question mark and he doesn't always assert himself yet. But given what John Calipari did for Karl-Anthony Towns this year, scouts are really bullish on him.

3. Jaylen Brown, G/F, uncommitted

McDonald's: 9 pts, 6 rebs, 2blks, 2 steals in 21 mins
Hoop Summit: 8 pts, 2 rebs, 1 steal in 16 mins

Brown certainly looks the part of a potential No. 1 pick. He's already blessed with a NBA body and explosive athleticism. His dunk at the Hoop Summit was the most memorable play in the game. When he's playing fearlessly like that and attacking the rim, he looks like an elite prospect. A hip pointer limited him a bit last week and scouts didn't get to see him scrimmage on Thursday, which was disappointing. He didn't dominate the game the way he's capable in either McDonald's or the Hoop Summit, and that is scouts' primary concern about him. He has the tools to do everything (though his jump shot still needs polish). He just needs to do it consistently. Kentucky, Kansas, UCLA, North Carolina, Michigan, Cal, Georgia and Georgia Tech are all heavily recruiting him.

4. Brandon Ingram, SF, uncommitted

McDonald's: 15 pts, 5 rebs in 18 minutes
Hoop Summit: 12 pts, 2 rebs, 2 steals, 2 blks in 26 mins

Three months ago Ingram wasn't in the one-and-done conversation at all. But he's been progressing rapidly the past few months and greatly impressed scouts at both McDonald's and the Hoop Summit. At 6-foot-9 ½ with a 7-foot-3 wingspan, he has elite size for a small forward. He's a good athlete who can rise up over offenses and with a silky smooth jumper. And despite his very thin frame (he weighed in at 196 pounds), he's scrappy. If he can keep progressing at this rate and if he can add a little meat to those toothpicks he calls arms and legs, he's got the chance to be special. Duke, North Carolina, Kansas and Kentucky are the four teams in the mix for Ingram at the moment.

5. Diamond Stone, C, committed to Maryland

McDonald's: 14 pts, 3 rebs, 2 blks in 19 mins

Stone is a big, physical low-post scorer who carves up space in the paint. He has soft hands, excellent footwork and can punish defenders down low. He's not particularly explosive athletically, which limits his upside somewhat. But it's hard to find guys that can score in the post the way Stone can. With both Melo Trimble and Jake Layman returning to Maryland, look for him to play a big role on a very high-profile team next season.

6. Henry Ellenson, F/C, Marquette

Ellenson was originally scheduled to play for Team USA in the Nike Hoop Summit, but a broken hand kept him out of the game. Ellenson, according to scouts, is another very skilled big man who can score from just about anywhere on the floor. He can stroke the 3 and score in the paint with either hand. His defense leaves a lot to be desired and scouts are hoping he continues to get in better shape, but just about every scout I spoke to raised a Kevin Love comparison at some point. He isn't as good of a prospect as Love, but plays a similar game.

7. Malik Newman, SG, uncommitted

McDonald's: 1 pt, 2 rebs, 5 assits in 19 mins
Hoop Summit: 10 pts, 2 steals in 17 mins

Newman may be the best pure scorer in the class. A classic combo guard, Newman can score from anywhere on the floor. He's terrific at slashing to the basket and he can pull up and nail the 3. His biggest issue is size. At 6-foot-4, with a 6-foot-5 wingspan, he doesn't have elite size for his position, nor is he a super explosive athlete. He's trying to pass himself off as a point guard and may be hunting for a college team that will let him handle the ball. If he can make the transition the way D'Angelo Russell did (though he isn't nearly the creative passer that Russell is), he could move up a few spots on this board. For now, think of him as sort of a Monta Ellis-like player. Newman is considering Kansas, Kentucky, LSU, Mississippi, Mississippi State and NC State.


Cheick Diallo earned MVP honors at the 2015 McDonald's game. Kelly Kline/Getty Images
8. Cheick Diallo, PF, uncommitted

McDonald's: 18 pts, 10 rebs, 2 steals, 1 blk in 17 mins
Hoop Summit: 12 pts, 6 rebs, 3 blks in 16 min

Diallo won MVP honors at the McDonald's game and competed as hard as anyone in the Nike Hoop Summit practices. He's an excellent athlete with an elite 7-foot-4 wingspan who constantly plays in attack mode on both ends. There are few players with his combination of toughness and athleticism. He just lacks polish offensively. He's great running the floor and cleaning up on the offensive glass, but when he tries to do more than that, his lack of skill -- both in the paint and on the perimeter -- shows. If he does figure things out offensively, he's going to be a beast. Even if he doesn't, he projects to be able to guard two or three positions on the floor. Kansas, Kentucky and St. John's seem to lead the pack for Diallo, with Iowa State and Pittsburgh also in the mix.

9. Thon Maker, PF, uncommitted

Hoop Summit: 2 pts, 10 rebs, in 14 mins

Maker was largely a disappointment last week at the Hoop Summit. His feel for the game is clearly a major work in progress. His recognition of what he was doing on both ends of the floor was clearly behind most of the players there. But it's the physical tools that have scouts excited. He's a very fluid athlete with great length and agility for a player his size. He plays hard, can guard multiple positions and has the raw skills of a player who, with a year or two of solid development, looks like a great NBA prospect. He's ranked this high based much more on upside than production. But if you know anything about the NBA draft, teams love upside. If he can get academically eligible (a major question according to scouts), Kansas, Kentucky and Indiana lead his list of schools.

10. Ivan Rabb, PF, committed to Cal

McDonald's: 10 pts, 6 rebs in 15 mins
Hoop Summit: 2 pts, 3 rebs, 8 mins

Rabb just announced that he's attending Cal and he should be a major get for the school. With Jabari Bird and (hopefully) Tyrone Wallace returning, they'll be in very good shape in the Pac 12 next year. Rabb is big, athletic and defends and rebounds, but he didn't have a standout Hoop Summit and clearly was a bit of a letdown for a number of scouts who came in thinking he might be a top 5 pick. He needs to add strength and find ways to be more assertive offensively.

Others to watch: Antonio Blakeney, SG, LSU; Isaiah Briscoe, PG, Kentucky; Dwayne Bacon, SF, Florida State; Stephen Zimmerman, C, uncommitted; Jamal Murray, G, uncommitted; Caleb Swanigan, PF, Michigan State; Chase Jeter, PF, Duke; Allonzo Trier, SG, Arizona; Luke Kennard, G/F, Duke

[Future Celtics Owner]

Ingram is also pretty quick. He plays sg for his team I read in an article. Watch this video and look at his control with the ball and quickness. Many tweeters don't have the elite quickness to play sf  all the time but this kid does.imo
Also a very good 3 point shooter. Time will tell but he will be the youngest kid taken in the draft next year

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