The love affair with Philadelphia

[cman88]

Two new articles of note:


Joel Embiid's work ethic needed work, Brett Brown says

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/20150417_Joel_Embiid_s_work_ethic_needs_work__Brett_Brown_says.html


Apparently the first confirmation of various rumors.

and


Brett Brown might have to play tanking game again

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/20150417_Brett_Brown_might_have_to_play_tanking_game_again.html

Two years are already gone from his four-year contract, however, and his third season could be as frustrating as his first two. Being the good soldier for the journey has given him a career 37-127 record as an NBA head coach. Fair or not, he wears that.

Next year's a lock for tanking given the time needed to develop players.  I'd wager that the Sixers will tank for both years. Sixers had a shot at 4 1sts in a decent 2015 draft. Now looking at three acquired picks (OKC, LAL, and MIA) being deferred to 2016 with the picks likely to be worse in a, supposedly, weaker 2016 draft.

I'm sure Brown must be having second thoughts about his career predicament coming from the Spurs.

no pity for the Sixers on having to wait for deferred picks in a lower-quality draft.  OKC, Lakers and Miami all figure to be better next year with their top players coming back from injury.  Also, one more year wasted of Noel's rookie contract-->will be yet more incentive for him to get out of town rather than see more of his career flushed down the toilet

that's something else people need to keep in mind as well. If you draft a guy or two who looks legit but at the end of his rookie deal you are still a bottom dweller...no way are they staying there.

So, you have to gamble that the guys you draft will be stars AND you will improve enough that they will want to stay

[Moranis]

Two new articles of note:


Joel Embiid's work ethic needed work, Brett Brown says

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/20150417_Joel_Embiid_s_work_ethic_needs_work__Brett_Brown_says.html


Apparently the first confirmation of various rumors.

and


Brett Brown might have to play tanking game again

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/20150417_Brett_Brown_might_have_to_play_tanking_game_again.html

Two years are already gone from his four-year contract, however, and his third season could be as frustrating as his first two. Being the good soldier for the journey has given him a career 37-127 record as an NBA head coach. Fair or not, he wears that.

Next year's a lock for tanking given the time needed to develop players.  I'd wager that the Sixers will tank for both years. Sixers had a shot at 4 1sts in a decent 2015 draft. Now looking at three acquired picks (OKC, LAL, and MIA) being deferred to 2016 with the picks likely to be worse in a, supposedly, weaker 2016 draft.

I'm sure Brown must be having second thoughts about his career predicament coming from the Spurs.

no pity for the Sixers on having to wait for deferred picks in a lower-quality draft.  OKC, Lakers and Miami all figure to be better next year with their top players coming back from injury.  Also, one more year wasted of Noel's rookie contract-->will be yet more incentive for him to get out of town rather than see more of his career flushed down the toilet

that's something else people need to keep in mind as well. If you draft a guy or two who looks legit but at the end of his rookie deal you are still a bottom dweller...no way are they staying there.

So, you have to gamble that the guys you draft will be stars AND you will improve enough that they will want to stay

Are they really going to sign a one year contract at meager money rather than a max deal with Philly though?  I mean that is what they have to do.  They have to play the risk game that Monroe is playing.  I just don't think it is likely.

[Endless Paradise]

Monroe is the biggest restricted free agent name to ever take such a risk and now everyone seems to think guys like Anthony Davis, Nerlens Noel, and so on are going to go the qualifying offer route.

It's just as silly as assuming that because LeBron went home, KD must be looking at returning to DC because he's apparently a LeBron parrot and has to mimic his every move. These are individuals doing unprecedented things; Monroe and LeBron aren't magically setting the standard.

[RAAAAAAAANDY]

76ers just going though the motions of TRYIng to play basketball.   That's great entertainment .   Putting together a program based on losing .   . 

That's good value and something cheer for and pay to see? Yeah right.

If the Celtics did this , I would not be buying tickets and wouldn't pay for league pass to watch d leaguers and this years first round player stumble around getting destroyed.

So how many years do they idle along , pretending to be a basketball team , waiting for the next MJ to happen along.   There is way more to team than just getting a few first round lottery picks , of course if your only a lad .....your brain would have any reference for how the real world works.

It some point ...they need to man up ...quit the bull and play the game ....like professionals



So they are professional screw up team ......wow that's something to be proud of ......bunch of losers.

I agree it looks bad. They're never going to build a great team if they refuse to give guys time to develop. The "you are not a star in 2 years trading you" strategy seems horrible. Veteran teams win titles not 3 and 4 year players. Believe avg age of modern day championship teams is 28. And no teams since 70s haven't done it at under effective age of 26. That means guys the guys you rely on are 5+ year pros. Philly strategy of draft high is nice but can't sit there just waiting to hit big.

They traded MCW because he was a very offensively inefficient PG and they got a very good Lakers pick in return.  Noel has looked better offensively after the trade with Ish Smith at PG.  Hinkie obviously didn't think MCW would develop into the kind of player he wants as their future PG.  If they held onto MCW, the most likely outcome would be that he'd remain an inefficient PG and his trade value would plummet. 

McDaniels was traded because he didn't sign a team friendly deal like most 2nd rounders do.  He wasn't going to overpay to keep McDaniels, a role player at best, so he traded him for some return. 

Besides MCW and McDaniels, I don't see anyone else you could be referring to.  They are developing Noel quite well and at the end of the season moved him back to PF to try to get him ready to play with Embiid.

Unless the Lakers are extremely unlucky and two teams jump them in the lottery, this will most likely be a bad trade.

How so? They didn't think they'd be getting the pick this year anyways. It rolls over to a top 3 protection next year.

They will get Randall back, another top 5 pick, Kobe and a potential free agent. They may even trade their pick this year to get another established player.

Good luck hoping that all those things actually make them worse next year.

You think getting Kobe back helps them? He's going to jack 26 shots per game at sub 40% assuming another injury and year on his body didn't make him even worse.

Who is Randall? If we're talking about Julius Randle good luck selling me in him making a bigger difference than Ed Davis who leaves this year.

And what impact Free Agent is going to want to spend a year on a terrible team while being frozen out by Kobe?

That team is still going to stink next year.

[SHAQATTACK]

The whole FO is throw away junk organization with a junk throw away coach

[RAAAAAAAANDY]

Two new articles of note:


Joel Embiid's work ethic needed work, Brett Brown says

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/20150417_Joel_Embiid_s_work_ethic_needs_work__Brett_Brown_says.html


Apparently the first confirmation of various rumors.

and


Brett Brown might have to play tanking game again

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/20150417_Brett_Brown_might_have_to_play_tanking_game_again.html

Two years are already gone from his four-year contract, however, and his third season could be as frustrating as his first two. Being the good soldier for the journey has given him a career 37-127 record as an NBA head coach. Fair or not, he wears that.

Next year's a lock for tanking given the time needed to develop players.  I'd wager that the Sixers will tank for both years. Sixers had a shot at 4 1sts in a decent 2015 draft. Now looking at three acquired picks (OKC, LAL, and MIA) being deferred to 2016 with the picks likely to be worse in a, supposedly, weaker 2016 draft.

I'm sure Brown must be having second thoughts about his career predicament coming from the Spurs.

no pity for the Sixers on having to wait for deferred picks in a lower-quality draft.  OKC, Lakers and Miami all figure to be better next year with their top players coming back from injury.  Also, one more year wasted of Noel's rookie contract-->will be yet more incentive for him to get out of town rather than see more of his career flushed down the toilet

that's something else people need to keep in mind as well. If you draft a guy or two who looks legit but at the end of his rookie deal you are still a bottom dweller...no way are they staying there.

So, you have to gamble that the guys you draft will be stars AND you will improve enough that they will want to stay

Has there ever been an RFA that didn't re-sign when he was offered the max? Monroe wasn't offered the max, Bledsoe caved and "legit" guys tend to make their teams good enough that they don't really fit that criteria.

Either way, if they stay healthy they'll be bad but not tanking God awful next year. A decent PG and some spacing and they'll be a 25-30 win team. They didn't finish the tear down until the Young trade but this year most of their roster moves aside from the draft will feature at the very worst fringe rotation guys.

[RAAAAAAAANDY]

The whole FO is throw away junk organization with a junk throw away coach

Name one trade Sam Hinkie lost...

Because KJ McDaniels has more broken limbs than made 3 pointers in Hou and that's the only one that's even close.

[Evantime34]

Two new articles of note:


Joel Embiid's work ethic needed work, Brett Brown says

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/20150417_Joel_Embiid_s_work_ethic_needs_work__Brett_Brown_says.html


Apparently the first confirmation of various rumors.

and


Brett Brown might have to play tanking game again

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/20150417_Brett_Brown_might_have_to_play_tanking_game_again.html

Two years are already gone from his four-year contract, however, and his third season could be as frustrating as his first two. Being the good soldier for the journey has given him a career 37-127 record as an NBA head coach. Fair or not, he wears that.

Next year's a lock for tanking given the time needed to develop players.  I'd wager that the Sixers will tank for both years. Sixers had a shot at 4 1sts in a decent 2015 draft. Now looking at three acquired picks (OKC, LAL, and MIA) being deferred to 2016 with the picks likely to be worse in a, supposedly, weaker 2016 draft.

I'm sure Brown must be having second thoughts about his career predicament coming from the Spurs.

no pity for the Sixers on having to wait for deferred picks in a lower-quality draft.  OKC, Lakers and Miami all figure to be better next year with their top players coming back from injury.  Also, one more year wasted of Noel's rookie contract-->will be yet more incentive for him to get out of town rather than see more of his career flushed down the toilet

that's something else people need to keep in mind as well. If you draft a guy or two who looks legit but at the end of his rookie deal you are still a bottom dweller...no way are they staying there.

So, you have to gamble that the guys you draft will be stars AND you will improve enough that they will want to stay

Has there ever been an RFA that didn't re-sign when he was offered the max? Monroe wasn't offered the max, Bledsoe caved and "legit" guys tend to make their teams good enough that they don't really fit that criteria.

Either way, if they stay healthy they'll be bad but not tanking God awful next year. A decent PG and some spacing and they'll be a 25-30 win team. They didn't finish the tear down until the Young trade but this year most of their roster moves aside from the draft will feature at the very worst fringe rotation guys.

You are right that there are very few RFA who don't resign when offered the max. However, you are missing a huge reason for that. Usually if a player has doubts about the organization longterm their agent goes to the team and that player is dealt before they reach free agency. So while the Sixers do have players under control, if the players don't want to be there they can force a trade.

[RAAAAAAAANDY]

Two new articles of note:


Joel Embiid's work ethic needed work, Brett Brown says

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/20150417_Joel_Embiid_s_work_ethic_needs_work__Brett_Brown_says.html


Apparently the first confirmation of various rumors.

and


Brett Brown might have to play tanking game again

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/20150417_Brett_Brown_might_have_to_play_tanking_game_again.html

Two years are already gone from his four-year contract, however, and his third season could be as frustrating as his first two. Being the good soldier for the journey has given him a career 37-127 record as an NBA head coach. Fair or not, he wears that.

Next year's a lock for tanking given the time needed to develop players.  I'd wager that the Sixers will tank for both years. Sixers had a shot at 4 1sts in a decent 2015 draft. Now looking at three acquired picks (OKC, LAL, and MIA) being deferred to 2016 with the picks likely to be worse in a, supposedly, weaker 2016 draft.

I'm sure Brown must be having second thoughts about his career predicament coming from the Spurs.

no pity for the Sixers on having to wait for deferred picks in a lower-quality draft.  OKC, Lakers and Miami all figure to be better next year with their top players coming back from injury.  Also, one more year wasted of Noel's rookie contract-->will be yet more incentive for him to get out of town rather than see more of his career flushed down the toilet

that's something else people need to keep in mind as well. If you draft a guy or two who looks legit but at the end of his rookie deal you are still a bottom dweller...no way are they staying there.

So, you have to gamble that the guys you draft will be stars AND you will improve enough that they will want to stay

Has there ever been an RFA that didn't re-sign when he was offered the max? Monroe wasn't offered the max, Bledsoe caved and "legit" guys tend to make their teams good enough that they don't really fit that criteria.

Either way, if they stay healthy they'll be bad but not tanking God awful next year. A decent PG and some spacing and they'll be a 25-30 win team. They didn't finish the tear down until the Young trade but this year most of their roster moves aside from the draft will feature at the very worst fringe rotation guys.

You are right that there are very few RFA who don't resign when offered the max. However, you are missing a huge reason for that. Usually if a player has doubts about the organization longterm their agent goes to the team and that player is dealt before they reach free agency. So while the Sixers do have players under control, if the players don't want to be there they can force a trade.

When has this happened with a max level restricted free agent leaving his rookie contract? I'm not being combative I seriously don't remember it happening.

And 3 of the 5 worst teams in the NBA last year won 35+ games this year. The jump is not that difficult to make to the middle. Getting from 40 wins to 55+ is the real hurdle.

[Emmette Bryant]

http://deadspin.com/76ers-win-right-to-trade-somebody-for-two-second-rounde-1705678080

[hwangjini_1]

http://deadspin.com/76ers-win-right-to-trade-somebody-for-two-second-rounde-1705678080

very funny article. tp. and i want this player!!! Niklyshlyz Krygzyrgyshysvylgis!! 

[Emmette Bryant]

Thanks dude.  TP right back at ya.

[LarBrd33]

DeAngelo Russell will be a perfect fit with Noel and Embiid.   They have other pieces that are interesting like Wroten.   Saric is still a valuable piece of the future.  I hear they are planning on offering the max to young players like Tobias Harris... I remain very very jealous of Philly fans.

[BornReady]

Hopefully 76ers get Russell
So that they do not tank further again next year

It would be messed up if they chose mudiay or towns or okafor as they would have a chance to tank again
By waiting for mudiay to recover from his injury and taking time with him
Or trading one of their talented Centres

[LarBrd33]

Hopefully 76ers get Russell
So that they do not tank further again next year

I don't think there's any reason for them to tank next year.  I really admire what they pulled off here.   They are set up pretty brilliantly. 

I think the biggest gamble they made was dumping MCW.  I understand why they did it... they thought MCW was overrated (he probably is) and figured they'd get a better guard this year (they probably will with Russell).  They also gambled that they'd end up getting a top 7 pick this year from the Lakers.  Unfortunately for them, the Lakers are probably going to be significantly better next year... so Philly ends up getting probably a mid-to-late 1st for MCW.  Bad gamble.

But Russell, Embiid and Noel is a sick foundation.  Add Saric, cap space to sign talent and several other tradeable assets... I expect Philly to be a playoff team within 2 years.  Depending on how the rest of their offseason goes, they might even sneak into the playoffs next year. 

Russell, Wroten, Tobias Harris, Noel and Embiid, for example... that'd be interesting.

I know it sounds straight-up absurd that Philly could make a leap that quickly, but we don't know yet how good Embiid will be... and during the second half the season Philly had the #1 defensive rating in the league when Noel was on the court.  Add Embiid, some scoring punch and a signing or two... I mean... as Boston proved this year, it doesn't take much to sneak into the playoffs in the East.