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Re: Moving Up In The Draft?
« Reply #30 on: March 26, 2015, 11:48:32 PM »

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I really want to trade up for Hezonja.  I hope we can do Sully + our pick + Young for him.  It would be worth it
Yes it would but its very unlikely if we end up with the 15th or 16 pick.  I don't think Sully had much trade value coming into a contract year.  With his injury and the latest story on his weight issues, I think his value is about zero.  Young hasn't done anything to boost his value.

I don't think Sullinger's trade value is zero, he's still a pretty talented player.

Re: Moving Up In The Draft?
« Reply #31 on: March 27, 2015, 12:49:24 AM »

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I wouldn't be against packaging the picks we get from the nets in 2017 and 2018 to move up. With the salary cap increasing, the Nets could easily rebuild quick. Those future draft picks from the Nets are not looking as good as they were. Might as well try to sell high before those picks lose value.

I would say it could be the opposite. The cap increase is going to give almost every team real cap room going forward. With so many places to pick from, why would anyone choose the Nets? Their not even NYCs flagship franchise, and with Phil and Melo in NY, you figure anyone seeking a glamour market goes there. It wouldn't surprise me if all three of those picks ended up being somewhere in the lottery, even if it's late. The east is getting better, Brooklyn's getting much worse, and they really don't have many assets coming their way in the next four years. I don't think they'll all be lottery, but it could happen.

And that's not even getting into the ownership mess there.

Re: Moving Up In The Draft?
« Reply #32 on: March 27, 2015, 09:28:38 AM »

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A lot of talk about moving up from our own 1st rd pick, but assuming we land in top 12 then we're certain to get a top prospect.

The way I see it this draft has 12 guys before the drop off:
Okafor    Hezonja
Towns     Winslow
Mudiay    Turner
Russell    Oubre
Porzingis  Johnson
WCS        Looney

However, my thoughts are what do we need to package to get one of the latter guys off that list? For example, say we have the #10 pick and select Johnson. However, at #12 Turner is still there. So packaging the Clips pick, along with the Sixers 2nd rd pick this year, and what else (either players and/or draft choices) get us the #12.

Re: Moving Up In The Draft?
« Reply #33 on: March 27, 2015, 04:52:43 PM »

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I wouldn't be against packaging the picks we get from the nets in 2017 and 2018 to move up. With the salary cap increasing, the Nets could easily rebuild quick. Those future draft picks from the Nets are not looking as good as they were. Might as well try to sell high before those picks lose value.

I would say it could be the opposite. The cap increase is going to give almost every team real cap room going forward. With so many places to pick from, why would anyone choose the Nets? Their not even NYCs flagship franchise, and with Phil and Melo in NY, you figure anyone seeking a glamour market goes there. It wouldn't surprise me if all three of those picks ended up being somewhere in the lottery, even if it's late. The east is getting better, Brooklyn's getting much worse, and they really don't have many assets coming their way in the next four years. I don't think they'll all be lottery, but it could happen.

And that's not even getting into the ownership mess there.
I think the small market teams are going to struggle with the new cap structure and probably be conservative initially. At the same time, I can see over aggressive owners like the Nets getting anyone and over spending to get those players.

I just don't see how you can be optimistic that the Nets will not land at least one top talent with the new cap structure.

Re: Moving Up In The Draft?
« Reply #34 on: March 27, 2015, 05:01:38 PM »

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I wouldn't be against packaging the picks we get from the nets in 2017 and 2018 to move up. With the salary cap increasing, the Nets could easily rebuild quick. Those future draft picks from the Nets are not looking as good as they were. Might as well try to sell high before those picks lose value.

I would say it could be the opposite. The cap increase is going to give almost every team real cap room going forward. With so many places to pick from, why would anyone choose the Nets? Their not even NYCs flagship franchise, and with Phil and Melo in NY, you figure anyone seeking a glamour market goes there. It wouldn't surprise me if all three of those picks ended up being somewhere in the lottery, even if it's late. The east is getting better, Brooklyn's getting much worse, and they really don't have many assets coming their way in the next four years. I don't think they'll all be lottery, but it could happen.

And that's not even getting into the ownership mess there.
I think the small market teams are going to struggle with the new cap structure and probably be conservative initially. At the same time, I can see over aggressive owners like the Nets getting anyone and over spending to get those players.

I just don't see how you can be optimistic that the Nets will not land at least one top talent with the new cap structure.
Why would a top talent want to go there and play with past their prime players. I'm much more worried that the Knicks will land a top player than the nets.
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Re: Moving Up In The Draft?
« Reply #35 on: March 27, 2015, 05:05:38 PM »

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Trade both picks and anyone on the roster for Okafor.

Re: Moving Up In The Draft?
« Reply #36 on: March 27, 2015, 05:33:04 PM »

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Trade both picks and anyone on the roster for Okafor.

Or D'Angelo Russell. God, I wish it was that easy.

I think the safe bet is to move up by just a few spots. Maybe from 15 to, say, 11th pick. With be in line for the following if we're there.

Winslow
Turner
Hezonja
Jerian Grant (would love this pick actually)
Poetl
Porzingis

Any of those names would be great.
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Re: Moving Up In The Draft?
« Reply #37 on: March 27, 2015, 05:33:04 PM »

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Re: Moving Up In The Draft?
« Reply #38 on: March 27, 2015, 05:33:18 PM »

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Pick 26 is worthless, just about every 26 pick busts out of the league. 15 also has little value. We would need to add a player on the roster to move up to the top 8..

Re: Moving Up In The Draft?
« Reply #39 on: March 27, 2015, 06:27:45 PM »

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Can't team just lose and move up instead of packaging picks? Honestly one good tank/develop push and it's a top ten pick.

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« Reply #40 on: March 27, 2015, 06:52:24 PM »

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Can't team just lose and move up instead of packaging picks? Honestly one good tank/develop push and it's a top ten pick.

Too late, hinkier-liberty baller.
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Re: Moving Up In The Draft?
« Reply #41 on: March 27, 2015, 06:54:53 PM »

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Can't team just lose and move up instead of packaging picks? Honestly one good tank/develop push and it's a top ten pick.

Too late, hinkier-liberty baller.
Not if they go 2-9, Green shades wearing kool-aid drinker.

Re: Moving Up In The Draft?
« Reply #42 on: March 27, 2015, 06:59:23 PM »

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Can't team just lose and move up instead of packaging picks? Honestly one good tank/develop push and it's a top ten pick.

Too late, hinkier-liberty baller.
Not if they go 2-9, Green shades wearing kool-aid drinker.

Cry again next year, hinkier. TP for your wishful thinking.
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Re: Moving Up In The Draft?
« Reply #43 on: March 27, 2015, 08:20:03 PM »

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Can't team just lose and move up instead of packaging picks? Honestly one good tank/develop push and it's a top ten pick.

Too late, hinkier-liberty baller.
Not if they go 2-9, Green shades wearing kool-aid drinker.

Cry again next year, hinkier. TP for your wishful thinking.
Well next year they have $ and Brooklyn picks. Not a year to tank but to then truly go for playoffs. This year is a joke.

Re: Moving Up In The Draft?
« Reply #44 on: March 28, 2015, 12:27:52 PM »

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Trade both picks and anyone on the roster for Okafor.

Or D'Angelo Russell. God, I wish it was that easy.

I think the safe bet is to move up by just a few spots. Maybe from 15 to, say, 11th pick. With be in line for the following if we're there.

Winslow
Turner
Hezonja
Jerian Grant (would love this pick actually)
Poetl
Porzingis

Any of those names would be great.
I would be disappointed if we got Winslow. Not because I don't like his game but I feel we have a similar player in James Young already.