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Re: When did we wear "Los Celtics" jerseys ?
« Reply #30 on: March 05, 2015, 01:56:56 AM »

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WOW this thread. Just wow.

I agree with LD42

And people keep asking why free agents don't see Boston as destination. This thread right here is one of the many reasons why

This is just the NBA trying to be global brand. They do things like this to make the game more enticing for fans.

I personally don't mind this at all.

Are ya'll afraid the hispanics are gonna take over your Celtics? Come on. Be real.

Los Celtics just means The Celtics.

Get over it.

What's wrong with the OP asking this question? It's a legitimate question. 

According to the US Census Bureau, San Antonio, LA, and Miami all have Hispanic majorities that would justify this type of branding and make sense, but Hispanics are a much smaller minority in Boston so it doesn't make as much sense.

And if it's a global brand, why are the southern US teams with large Hispanic populations near Mexico wearing the "Los X" shirts instead of northern teams, too? Furthermore, if it's a global brand why aren't they promoting jerseys in Mandarin, French, Dutch, and Greek, too?

Maybe the OP came about it a little rash, but it's a perfectly legitimate question to ask.

P.S.: Hopefully you guys know the whole Ron Swanson meme post was a joke, too.



Hmm, I knew they did something for Chinese New Years, but I didn't think they actual had it on their jerseys.

I agree that it is a global brand and that's all they're doing, but I still don't understand how asking that question for Boston is wrong. It's not a majority or large percentage of the population like it is in the other cities, and it's nowhere near a Spanish-speaking country. Granted, Houston doesn't really have a strong Asian population either.

How about this, the Celtics was/is one of the best franchise in NBA history. So them joining the "los insert name here" marketing makes sense.

If you didn't know the Celtics are not only popular in Boston, or in America. This team is popular world wide. You see this when KG visits China, when Rondo visited the Philippines,they were treated like royalty. I am from Canada and I love the C's, and I'm sure a lot of our Hispanic/Latino brothers are fans too.

The world is changing. Be a part of it.
Hmm, I'm not a part of an ever-changing world because I don't believe that everything is about race like you do? Cute.

Again, show me how the OP asking that question was wrong other than just positing some notion that were the best franchise in the NBA and it's good for marketing, which again doesn't say anything about how the OP was wrong.

I believe Dr. Ben Carson (could very well be mistaken on attributing this to him) had a very astute quote on these types of situations. It went something like, "The people who are quick to jump to racial motives as explanations are the ones with racial motives on their minds."

The question was a legitimate question that made sense with respect to Boston's demographics, geography, and cultural history. Though it may have come out rash, the question itself is fair without racist undertones.


Again, 15% and growing http://boston.areaconnect.com/statistics.htm

Again:
59% and growing http://sanantonio.areaconnect.com/statistics.htm
47% and growing http://losangeles.areaconnect.com/statistics.htm
67% and growing http://miamifl.areaconnect.com/statistics.htm

Just a tiny bit difference in those statistics.
   

Re: When did we wear "Los Celtics" jerseys ?
« Reply #31 on: March 05, 2015, 02:16:42 AM »

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WOW this thread. Just wow.

I agree with LD42

And people keep asking why free agents don't see Boston as destination. This thread right here is one of the many reasons why

This is just the NBA trying to be global brand. They do things like this to make the game more enticing for fans.

I personally don't mind this at all.

Are ya'll afraid the hispanics are gonna take over your Celtics? Come on. Be real.

Los Celtics just means The Celtics.

Get over it.

What's wrong with the OP asking this question? It's a legitimate question. 

According to the US Census Bureau, San Antonio, LA, and Miami all have Hispanic majorities that would justify this type of branding and make sense, but Hispanics are a much smaller minority in Boston so it doesn't make as much sense.

And if it's a global brand, why are the southern US teams with large Hispanic populations near Mexico wearing the "Los X" shirts instead of northern teams, too? Furthermore, if it's a global brand why aren't they promoting jerseys in Mandarin, French, Dutch, and Greek, too?

Maybe the OP came about it a little rash, but it's a perfectly legitimate question to ask.

P.S.: Hopefully you guys know the whole Ron Swanson meme post was a joke, too.



Hmm, I knew they did something for Chinese New Years, but I didn't think they actual had it on their jerseys.

I agree that it is a global brand and that's all they're doing, but I still don't understand how asking that question for Boston is wrong. It's not a majority or large percentage of the population like it is in the other cities, and it's nowhere near a Spanish-speaking country. Granted, Houston doesn't really have a strong Asian population either.

How about this, the Celtics was/is one of the best franchise in NBA history. So them joining the "los insert name here" marketing makes sense.

If you didn't know the Celtics are not only popular in Boston, or in America. This team is popular world wide. You see this when KG visits China, when Rondo visited the Philippines,they were treated like royalty. I am from Canada and I love the C's, and I'm sure a lot of our Hispanic/Latino brothers are fans too.

The world is changing. Be a part of it.
Hmm, I'm not a part of an ever-changing world because I don't believe that everything is about race like you do? Cute.

Again, show me how the OP asking that question was wrong other than just positing some notion that were the best franchise in the NBA and it's good for marketing, which again doesn't say anything about how the OP was wrong.

I believe Dr. Ben Carson (could very well be mistaken on attributing this to him) had a very astute quote on these types of situations. It went something like, "The people who are quick to jump to racial motives as explanations are the ones with racial motives on their minds."

The question was a legitimate question that made sense with respect to Boston's demographics, geography, and cultural history. Though it may have come out rash, the question itself is fair without racist undertones.


Again, 15% and growing http://boston.areaconnect.com/statistics.htm

Again:
59% and growing http://sanantonio.areaconnect.com/statistics.htm
47% and growing http://losangeles.areaconnect.com/statistics.htm
67% and growing http://miamifl.areaconnect.com/statistics.htm

Just a tiny bit difference in those statistics.
 

The 15% hispanic to 7% asian stat I listed was in response to you saying this: Actually, in my couple of visits to Boston I was surprised to see how large the Asian population was, especially when I went to the Celtics game itself.

Anyway, I really respect your posts on most other subjects and I like Fafnir a lot, which is why I think we should keep politics off of Celticsblog.  It just goes downhill fast.

Re: When did we wear "Los Celtics" jerseys ?
« Reply #32 on: March 05, 2015, 03:08:01 AM »

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WOW this thread. Just wow.

I agree with LD42

And people keep asking why free agents don't see Boston as destination. This thread right here is one of the many reasons why

This is just the NBA trying to be global brand. They do things like this to make the game more enticing for fans.

I personally don't mind this at all.

Are ya'll afraid the hispanics are gonna take over your Celtics? Come on. Be real.

Los Celtics just means The Celtics.

Get over it.

What's wrong with the OP asking this question? It's a legitimate question. 

According to the US Census Bureau, San Antonio, LA, and Miami all have Hispanic majorities that would justify this type of branding and make sense, but Hispanics are a much smaller minority in Boston so it doesn't make as much sense.

And if it's a global brand, why are the southern US teams with large Hispanic populations near Mexico wearing the "Los X" shirts instead of northern teams, too? Furthermore, if it's a global brand why aren't they promoting jerseys in Mandarin, French, Dutch, and Greek, too?

Maybe the OP came about it a little rash, but it's a perfectly legitimate question to ask.

P.S.: Hopefully you guys know the whole Ron Swanson meme post was a joke, too.



Hmm, I knew they did something for Chinese New Years, but I didn't think they actual had it on their jerseys.

I agree that it is a global brand and that's all they're doing, but I still don't understand how asking that question for Boston is wrong. It's not a majority or large percentage of the population like it is in the other cities, and it's nowhere near a Spanish-speaking country. Granted, Houston doesn't really have a strong Asian population either.

How about this, the Celtics was/is one of the best franchise in NBA history. So them joining the "los insert name here" marketing makes sense.

If you didn't know the Celtics are not only popular in Boston, or in America. This team is popular world wide. You see this when KG visits China, when Rondo visited the Philippines,they were treated like royalty. I am from Canada and I love the C's, and I'm sure a lot of our Hispanic/Latino brothers are fans too.

The world is changing. Be a part of it.
Hmm, I'm not a part of an ever-changing world because I don't believe that everything is about race like you do? Cute.

Again, show me how the OP asking that question was wrong other than just positing some notion that were the best franchise in the NBA and it's good for marketing, which again doesn't say anything about how the OP was wrong.

I believe Dr. Ben Carson (could very well be mistaken on attributing this to him) had a very astute quote on these types of situations. It went something like, "The people who are quick to jump to racial motives as explanations are the ones with racial motives on their minds."

The question was a legitimate question that made sense with respect to Boston's demographics, geography, and cultural history. Though it may have come out rash, the question itself is fair without racist undertones.


Again, 15% and growing http://boston.areaconnect.com/statistics.htm

Again:
59% and growing http://sanantonio.areaconnect.com/statistics.htm
47% and growing http://losangeles.areaconnect.com/statistics.htm
67% and growing http://miamifl.areaconnect.com/statistics.htm

Just a tiny bit difference in those statistics.
 

The 15% hispanic to 7% asian stat I listed was in response to you saying this: Actually, in my couple of visits to Boston I was surprised to see how large the Asian population was, especially when I went to the Celtics game itself.

Anyway, I really respect your posts on most other subjects and I like Fafnir a lot, which is why I think we should keep politics off of Celticsblog.  It just goes downhill fast.

I know. I just put those other statistics up there to show Timbo there was a legitimate reason to ask the question.

And, naw, controversy and differing opinions are the most interesting posts we have on here! That's where most growth comes from. Where would the world be if everyone agreed all of the time?!  ;)

Seriously, though, I think as fallible, imperfect humans we need to regularly have tough discussions with others who have different viewpoints. It either sways you to a different perspective or reaffirms your stance and strengthens your convictions.

Re: When did we wear "Los Celtics" jerseys ?
« Reply #33 on: March 05, 2015, 06:45:58 AM »

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"racially driven"

make comment about race, and make it seem i'm racist. don't reply would be better for this topic.

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Re: When did we wear "Los Celtics" jerseys ?
« Reply #34 on: March 05, 2015, 07:42:34 AM »

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Heitingas made an innocent post.  That he doesn't want want the Celtics to be be like the Heat and Lakers is fine.  And he never got into the whole Latino population angle, others did.  That wasn't his point.  And I'm sure the word "the" isn't going to win over many Latino fans anyway.  Put the English word "the" on a Hispanic soccer team or foreign cricket team and I'm still not going to care about those teams.

I'm sure there will be many threads here when the NBA starts to put advertisements on the jerseys.  Many of us won't like the change, and it probably won't be for racial reasons.  Heitingas just likes the traditional jerseys.

Re: When did we wear "Los Celtics" jerseys ?
« Reply #35 on: March 05, 2015, 08:24:56 AM »

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Re: When did we wear "Los Celtics" jerseys ?
« Reply #36 on: March 05, 2015, 08:58:50 AM »

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I dont see anything wrong with it, IMO.

It's just the NBA trying to make it's brand more global. It's trying to reach Latino eyes to make the NBA more popular to everyone in the world.

Besides, it's not permanent. It's just like the FIT week, or the Black History Month warmups, or the Chinese New Year jersey's the Dubs and the Rockets have, or the military themed week. They're just marketing the brand to a more people.


I'm sure there will be many threads here when the NBA starts to put advertisements on the jerseys.  Many of us won't like the change, and it probably won't be for racial reasons.  Heitingas just likes the traditional jerseys.

I actually don't mind this, as long as the players and the team staff (as far as it can reach) will get a cut of the money as well. But this is a whole different topic, I just thought I'd reply.
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Re: When did we wear "Los Celtics" jerseys ?
« Reply #37 on: March 05, 2015, 09:00:19 AM »

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Re: When did we wear "Los Celtics" jerseys ?
« Reply #38 on: March 05, 2015, 09:08:18 AM »

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And people keep asking why free agents don't see Boston as destination. This thread right here is one of the many reasons why

Hey, Aramaic is a beautiful language, but it doesn't really fit the culture in Boston.























Yes, that was intentionally ignorant and incorrect. ;) I know I got some of you!
;D

And I think the point of contention comes from "Did the actual game uniform have the "Los Celtics" logo or just the practice uniforms ? No offense to the hispanics, but this is really annoying to me personally, I don't want us to be like the Los Lakers, El Heat, Los Spurs.

It's CELTICS period."

It suggests, or infers, some kind of ugly division -- who, exactly, are "the hispanics?" and what's wrong with the C's having and recognizing their Hispanic fans? Particularly when we're already attached to a city described by the franchise's greatest player as a flea market of racism.
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Re: When did we wear "Los Celtics" jerseys ?
« Reply #39 on: March 05, 2015, 09:24:53 AM »

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Wow, that escalated quickly.

And yes, when someone makes a dumb comment about race, that makes them seem racist. What's so surprising?
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Re: When did we wear "Los Celtics" jerseys ?
« Reply #40 on: March 05, 2015, 09:40:35 AM »

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Ní maith liom Celtics Los ceachtar agus go mbeadh fearr go mór Gaeilge na hÉireann. Béarla an teanga de na diabhal heathen.

Also, I don't speak Gaelic or Irish but I can piece together enough of it to chuckle at this. English is the language of the heathen devils(?) indeed. ;D
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Re: When did we wear "Los Celtics" jerseys ?
« Reply #41 on: March 05, 2015, 10:00:09 AM »

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Ní maith liom Celtics Los ceachtar agus go mbeadh fearr go mór Gaeilge na hÉireann. Béarla an teanga de na diabhal heathen.
?? ??? ?????. ????? ?? ?????? ???

never mind the above. sigh. cb does not allow fonts that are not roman based. how sad that we are compelled to write in one script and one script only. one would hope we were beyond that level of provincialism.
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Re: When did we wear "Los Celtics" jerseys ?
« Reply #42 on: March 05, 2015, 10:03:01 AM »

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It's NBA marketing.  Relax. 

This isn't any different from any of the other NBA marketing programs they roll out there.  This one happens to be directed at the hispanic community.

Taking the holier than thou route because of usage of "The"?   Give me a break. 


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Re: When did we wear "Los Celtics" jerseys ?
« Reply #43 on: March 05, 2015, 10:18:21 AM »

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  It's part of Noche Ene-Be-A.  Done every year for past few years.  Los Bulls, Los Celtics, Los Lakers, Los Mavs, Los Spurs, El Heat.

 I don't see whats convo worthy of any of this. 
 

Re: When did we wear "Los Celtics" jerseys ?
« Reply #44 on: March 05, 2015, 10:35:37 AM »

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Ní maith liom Celtics Los ceachtar agus go mbeadh fearr go mór Gaeilge na hÉireann. Béarla an teanga de na diabhal heathen.
?? ??? ?????. ????? ?? ?????? ???

never mind the above. sigh. cb does not allow fonts that are not roman based. how sad that we are compelled to write in one script and one script only. one would hope we were beyond that level of provincialism.
;D

Eja, correct me here, but it says something like "I don't like Los Celtics either, they should be the "Irish Irish (or the Irish Celtics or the Gaelic Celtics). English is the language of the heathen devils (or devilish heathens?)" right?
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