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The Obligatory Bos/Sac/Den Trade Proposal
« on: February 16, 2015, 06:08:07 PM »

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Hopefully this is realistic, and obviously it would rest on the conditions that Boogie and Lawson are available for the right price. I'm not sure how realistic these assumptions are, but there are actual rumors out there about this. So hopefully they are true.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=moe7874

Boston: Boogie, Chandler

Sac: Lawson, Olynyk, Boston 2015 1st, Brooklyn 2018 1st (via Boston), 2016 Minny 1st (via Boston) probably be two second rounders

Den: Wallace, Thornton, Young, 2016 Dallas 1st (via Boston), 2015 Philly 1st (via Boston) will be two second rounders

What do you think? Not enough? Too much? Assuming that Boogie and Karl both want Boogie gone, who says no to this deal? I reaaallllyyyyyy don't like losing Young, but it's worth it for Boogie.

Re: The Obligatory Bos/Sac/Den Trade Proposal
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2015, 06:14:45 PM »

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Why not go for both Lawson and Cousins if we are in fact interested in both.

Bradley, KO, Three firsts for Cousins.

Thorton, Young, and a first for Lawson.

Lawson/Smart/Turner/Sully/Cousins

Re: The Obligatory Bos/Sac/Den Trade Proposal
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2015, 06:16:04 PM »

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Hopefully this is realistic, and obviously it would rest on the conditions that Boogie and Lawson are available for the right price. I'm not sure how realistic these assumptions are, but there are actual rumors out there about this. So hopefully they are true.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=moe7874

Boston: Boogie, Chandler

Sac: Lawson, Olynyk, Boston 2015 1st, Brooklyn 2018 1st (via Boston), 2016 Minny 1st (via Boston) probably be two second rounders

Den: Wallace, Thornton, Young, 2016 Dallas 1st (via Boston), 2015 Philly 1st (via Boston) will be two second rounders

What do you think? Not enough? Too much? Assuming that Boogie and Karl both want Boogie gone, who says no to this deal? I reaaallllyyyyyy don't like losing Young, but it's worth it for Boogie.


So Olynyk, Young, and 5 first rounders for Boogie? I think too much.

Re: The Obligatory Bos/Sac/Den Trade Proposal
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2015, 06:18:27 PM »

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Hopefully this is realistic, and obviously it would rest on the conditions that Boogie and Lawson are available for the right price. I'm not sure how realistic these assumptions are, but there are actual rumors out there about this. So hopefully they are true.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=moe7874

Boston: Boogie, Chandler

Sac: Lawson, Olynyk, Boston 2015 1st, Brooklyn 2018 1st (via Boston), 2016 Minny 1st (via Boston) probably be two second rounders

Den: Wallace, Thornton, Young, 2016 Dallas 1st (via Boston), 2015 Philly 1st (via Boston) will be two second rounders

What do you think? Not enough? Too much? Assuming that Boogie and Karl both want Boogie gone, who says no to this deal? I reaaallllyyyyyy don't like losing Young, but it's worth it for Boogie.


So Olynyk, Young, and 5 first rounders for Boogie? I think too much.
Granted, two of those 1sts will turn into multiple second rounders.

Re: The Obligatory Bos/Sac/Den Trade Proposal
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2015, 06:23:54 PM »

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Den gets   AB, Ben Mac + 2016 BLK 1st, 2016 CLE 2nd
Sac gets   Lawson, Kantor + 2015 LAC 1st, 2015 BOS 1st, 2016 CLE 1st
Uta gets   Olynyk, Bass (exp) + 2016 PHI 2nd, 2016 MIA 2nd
Bos gets  Boogie, JThompson


Re: The Obligatory Bos/Sac/Den Trade Proposal
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2015, 07:04:29 PM »

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Den gets   AB, Ben Mac + 2016 BLK 1st, 2016 CLE 2nd
Sac gets   Lawson, Kantor + 2015 LAC 1st, 2015 BOS 1st, 2016 CLE 1st
Uta gets   Olynyk, Bass (exp) + 2016 PHI 2nd, 2016 MIA 2nd
Bos gets  Boogie, JThompson
Don't think Denver wants Bradley with Gary Harris already.

Re: The Obligatory Bos/Sac/Den Trade Proposal
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2015, 07:24:16 PM »

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Den gets   AB, Ben Mac + 2016 BLK 1st, 2016 CLE 2nd
Sac gets   Lawson, Kantor + 2015 LAC 1st, 2015 BOS 1st, 2016 CLE 1st
Uta gets   Olynyk, Bass (exp) + 2016 PHI 2nd, 2016 MIA 2nd
Bos gets  Boogie, JThompson

This! I like this proposal. I would suggest taking McLemore out the deal and putting Stauskas In the deal since SAC already wants to trade him. Sac might not want to trade Boogie & McLemore. Hopefully Denver is okay with with taking Stauskas instead. Utah gets Arthur from DEN who makes salaries almost perfectly (K.O + Arthur=5.5M, Kanter=5.7M).

DEN receives: Bradley, Thornton, Stauskas + 2016 BKYN 1st, 2016 CLE 2nd
SAC receives: Lawson, Kanter + 2015 BOS 1st, 2015 LAC 1st, 2016 CLE 1st
UTA receives: Olynyk, Arthur + 2016 PHI 2nd, 2016 MIA 2nd
BOS receives: Cousins, Thompson

That's 4 1st round picks and 3 second rounders + Olynyk, Bradley, Thornton.

Boston takes on Jason Thompson's contract and still get to keep all of their own future picks (2016 & beyond), and still have a few picks left they acquired from other teams.

Utah grants Kanter his wish while getting Olynyk who can stretch the floor. They don't have to take on anymore salary on the year.

Denver gives up Lawson and gets Bradley, Stauskas, & Thornton (waived or buyout) + picks

Sacramento gives up Boogie but gets 3 first, Lawson, & Kanter.

Atleast George Karl is familiar with Ty Lawson...Hopefully they have a good coach-player  relationship!


Re: The Obligatory Bos/Sac/Den Trade Proposal
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2015, 07:25:18 PM »

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Den gets   AB, Ben Mac + 2016 BLK 1st, 2016 CLE 2nd
Sac gets   Lawson, Kantor + 2015 LAC 1st, 2015 BOS 1st, 2016 CLE 1st
Uta gets   Olynyk, Bass (exp) + 2016 PHI 2nd, 2016 MIA 2nd
Bos gets  Boogie, JThompson
Don't think Denver wants Bradley with Gary Harris already.

Harris has proven little to nothing. He has barely played this season.

But if it works out Harris/AB could be a hard nosed perimeter defensive duo. Something Shaw will be very happy about

Re: The Obligatory Bos/Sac/Den Trade Proposal
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2015, 07:29:10 PM »

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Hopefully this is realistic, and obviously it would rest on the conditions that Boogie and Lawson are available for the right price. I'm not sure how realistic these assumptions are, but there are actual rumors out there about this. So hopefully they are true.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=moe7874

Boston: Boogie, Chandler

Sac: Lawson, Olynyk, Boston 2015 1st, Brooklyn 2018 1st (via Boston), 2016 Minny 1st (via Boston) probably be two second rounders

Den: Wallace, Thornton, Young, 2016 Dallas 1st (via Boston), 2015 Philly 1st (via Boston) will be two second rounders

What do you think? Not enough? Too much? Assuming that Boogie and Karl both want Boogie gone, who says no to this deal? I reaaallllyyyyyy don't like losing Young, but it's worth it for Boogie.

Denver is getting the short end of the stick. Good try

Re: The Obligatory Bos/Sac/Den Trade Proposal
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2015, 07:31:22 PM »

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I like the trade, but I think Denver would need something extra for taking on Wallace's contract.  I would do it in a heartbeat for Cousins and Chandler is an above average player, plus getting rid of Wallace's contract is worth the picks and players we are giving up.  But I don't see Denver doing it.
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Re: The Obligatory Bos/Sac/Den Trade Proposal
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2015, 09:05:26 PM »

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It's a pretty good idea.  We're giving up a ton but Boogie is exactly the type of player that we've been gathering assets to trade for.  I think Sacramento would be insane to give Boogie up but if they are really considering trading him this is a pretty good return, especially because Lawson has played for Karl and is well-suited to his preferred style.  I think Denver would probably have to get a little more back or not take on Wallace to do this.  Maybe swap Zeller and Bradley for Young and Wallace?  That still works in the trade machine and while Young probably has more upside than Zeller or Bradley, Denver would be getting no bad contracts back and two young, long term rotation players.