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It took 36 to get 55
« on: January 31, 2015, 10:43:20 AM »

Offline coco

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Everyone is drooling/talking about KIrving's 55pts.  But no one talks about his ball-hogging 36 shots taken.  36!!!

It kind of makes it less impressive when you put it in context; doesn't it....

....just saying.

Re: It took 36 to get 55
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2015, 10:53:11 AM »

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That's 1.53 points per shot, which is good efficiency.  Kyle Korver is the only perimeter player is the league currently averaging a higher PPS figure than that.

Kyrie put his team on his back, without Lebron, and led his team to victory against a very good team. He shut down Lilliard defensively. He made clutch shots.

Sure, it wasn't Klaus Thompsen having a perfect quarter, but it was dang good.  What's not to like?


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Re: It took 36 to get 55
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2015, 10:56:51 AM »

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In fact, only taking 34 shots to score 55 point is pretty amazing. For comparison, Avery Bradley will need 50 shots to score 55 points.
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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2015, 10:57:16 AM »

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That's 1.53 points per shot, which is good efficiency.  Kyle Korver is the only perimeter player is the league currently averaging a higher PPS figure than that.

Kyrie put his team on his back, without Lebron, and led his team to victory against a very good team. He shut down Lilliard defensively. He made clutch shots.

Sure, it wasn't Klaus Thompsen having a perfect quarter, but it was dang good.  What's not to like?

Maybe I am old school, but I can't see a reason for a player taking 36 shots in a game.
Lots of players can score 50+ for that many shots taken.  I am not impressed.

I guess I would like the media to point that out - the amount of shots taken, before glorifying ball-hogging play.....you know, like an asterisk next to his 55pts  ;)

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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2015, 11:04:38 AM »

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That's 1.53 points per shot, which is good efficiency.  Kyle Korver is the only perimeter player is the league currently averaging a higher PPS figure than that.

Kyrie put his team on his back, without Lebron, and led his team to victory against a very good team. He shut down Lilliard defensively. He made clutch shots.

Sure, it wasn't Klaus Thompsen having a perfect quarter, but it was dang good.  What's not to like?

Maybe I am old school, but I can't see a reason for a player taking 36 shots in a game.
Lots of players can score 50+ for that many shots taken.  I am not impressed.

I guess I would like the media to point that out - the amount of shots taken, before glorifying ball-hogging play.....you know, like an asterisk next to his 55pts  ;)

He took that many shots because his teammates weren't producing at his level.

Isn't it better to ball hog and win, rather than to defer and lose?


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Re: It took 36 to get 55
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2015, 11:12:28 AM »

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In fact, only taking 34 shots to score 55 point is pretty amazing. For comparison, Avery Bradley will need 50 shots to score 55 points.

Haha. TP.

Dude scores 55 points how many shots you expect him to take?

Plus he led his team to a win... I don't get this.

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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2015, 11:29:49 AM »

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That's 1.53 points per shot, which is good efficiency.  Kyle Korver is the only perimeter player is the league currently averaging a higher PPS figure than that.

Kyrie put his team on his back, without Lebron, and led his team to victory against a very good team. He shut down Lilliard defensively. He made clutch shots.

Sure, it wasn't Klaus Thompsen having a perfect quarter, but it was dang good.  What's not to like?




Maybe I am old school, but I can't see a reason for a player taking 36 shots in a game.
Lots of players can score 50+ for that many shots taken.  I am not impressed.

I guess I would like the media to point that out - the amount of shots taken, before glorifying ball-hogging play.....you know, like an asterisk next to his 55pts  ;)

Since you are "old school" I assume you would think the greatest offensive outburst in Celtics History is Birds 60 in response to Mchales 56 the week before........want to take a wild guess how many shots bird took to get his 60??? 36!!! he was 22 for 36, should we asterisk that especially since Kevin only took 28 shots?

Jordan's historical 63 against us in the playoffs came on 41 shots. I would venture to guess that 90% of all 50+ games come with the player taking more than 30 field goal attempts.

I am no Kyrie fan but my suggestion would be Stop being a hater, any player who is over 1.4 pps or 60% true shooting is extremely efficient. The kid stepped up in the absence of the King, was super efficient and got the W....what exactly would make his achievements that night impressive to you?

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« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2015, 11:42:16 AM »

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Yeah, and only 10 free throws, too. Throw in the 11-19 on threes and you have a pretty fantastic night...too bad CLE didn't bite on the Rondo for Irving opportunity.

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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2015, 11:45:24 AM »

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Klay Thompson got his 52 pts on just 25 shots (including 11-15 from 3).  That is just other-worldly.

I don't necessarily see a problem with Irving taking 36 shots.  I did not see the game so I don't know how he got the shots but I am assuming they were largely good shots (he was 11-19 from 3) and in the flow of the game.  Just like with Rondo, sometimes 15 or 18 assists was good basketball and sometimes it was stat padding, scoring 55 could be either as well.

Since they won against a good team, in a close game, you have to give Irving the benefit of the doubt.

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« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2015, 02:30:18 PM »

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He took that many shots because his teammates weren't producing at his level.

Isn't it better to ball hog and win, rather than to defer and lose?

^ This

Scoring 30 points on 36 shots = ball hoggy

Scoring 55 points on 36 shots = putting the team on your shoulders.

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« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2015, 03:41:25 PM »

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He took that many shots because his teammates weren't producing at his level.

Isn't it better to ball hog and win, rather than to defer and lose?

^ This

Scoring 30 points on 36 shots = ball hoggy

Scoring 55 points on 36 shots = putting the team on your shoulders.

Bird's historic game was 60 points on 36, so not far off...gotta shoot to score...by the way I came across this when looking that up...I have been following bird since 86 and totally did not remember this...

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Having won 14 of 15 games heading into Portland on Feb. 14, 1986, legend has it that Bird became a bit bored with making those wins look so easy. So what did he do? He played left-handed. That's correct; the right-handed forward chose to shoot the ball left-handed throughout the contest, mostly with shots anywhere around the paint. However, only astute onlookers would have realized this in the midst of the game. Why, you might ask? Well, because Bird still managed to pour in 47 points, sent the game to overtime and then drilled the game-winner in OT. Not bad.
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« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2015, 03:54:11 PM »

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Having won 14 of 15 games heading into Portland on Feb. 14, 1986, legend has it that Bird became a bit bored with making those wins look so easy. So what did he do? He played left-handed. That's correct; the right-handed forward chose to shoot the ball left-handed throughout the contest, mostly with shots anywhere around the paint. However, only astute onlookers would have realized this in the midst of the game. Why, you might ask? Well, because Bird still managed to pour in 47 points, sent the game to overtime and then drilled the game-winner in OT. Not bad.
I've seen some footage of that game. He still took a good amount of shots right-handed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R76nMD8buR8
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« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2015, 04:00:49 PM »

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Having won 14 of 15 games heading into Portland on Feb. 14, 1986, legend has it that Bird became a bit bored with making those wins look so easy. So what did he do? He played left-handed. That's correct; the right-handed forward chose to shoot the ball left-handed throughout the contest, mostly with shots anywhere around the paint. However, only astute onlookers would have realized this in the midst of the game. Why, you might ask? Well, because Bird still managed to pour in 47 points, sent the game to overtime and then drilled the game-winner in OT. Not bad.
I've seen some footage of that game. He still took a good amount of shots right-handed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R76nMD8buR8

 I guess so. Thanks for sharing that.
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And Wilt had 63 attempts in his 100 point game (he made 36) and was a remarkable (for him especially) 28 of 32 from the line.
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