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OK, how does Ainge....
« on: January 31, 2015, 08:56:58 AM »

Offline TheOneTrueRobb

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....turn 9 dozen draft picks and a number of tradeable assets into Kevin Durant this Summer?

Discuss...
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Re: OK, how does Ainge....
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2015, 09:14:00 AM »

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I don't see it happening, dream on.
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Re: OK, how does Ainge....
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2015, 10:38:24 AM »

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That would be nice.

But lets keep in mind that ATL is winning with hustle and team play, while OKC - with Durant and Westbrook - might miss the playoffs.

So, yeah, that would be great, but we can also win without him.
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Re: OK, how does Ainge....
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2015, 10:55:10 AM »

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Quote from: coco on January 31, 2015, 10:38:24 AM
That would be nice.

But lets keep in mind that ATL is winning with hustle and team play, while OKC - with Durant and Westbrook - might miss the playoffs.

So, yeah, that would be great, but we can also win without him.



The above is how you should feel, you shouldn't be thinking about your next shirt with a number on the back. I'm watching Atlanta looking to win 20 in a row, with no super star on the team. 
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Re: OK, how does Ainge....
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2015, 11:06:21 AM »

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Quote from: Rosco917 on January 31, 2015, 10:55:10 AM
Quote from: coco on January 31, 2015, 10:38:24 AM
That would be nice.

But lets keep in mind that ATL is winning with hustle and team play, while OKC - with Durant and Westbrook - might miss the playoffs.

So, yeah, that would be great, but we can also win without him.
The above is how you should feel, you shouldn't be thinking about your next shirt with a number on the back. I'm watching Atlanta looking to win 20 in a row, with no super star on the team.


well, at least the celtics have the second half of that statement accomplished.  ;D
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Re: OK, how does Ainge....
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2015, 12:07:10 PM »

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Quote from: coco on January 31, 2015, 10:38:24 AM
That would be nice.

But lets keep in mind that ATL is winning with hustle and team play, while OKC - with Durant and Westbrook - might miss the playoffs.

So, yeah, that would be great, but we can also win without him.

OKC might miss the playoffs because Durant has missed 25/46 of their games so far and Westbrook has missed another 14. Unfortunately a lot of those games coincided with one another and the Thunder turned in to a lottery team. No surprises there. They lost two top-10 NBA players not to mention 43% of their 2014-15 salary. Take Lebron and Kyrie off the Cavs. Or Klay and Curry off the Warriors...or Harden and Howard off the Rockets.

OKC has been to three Conference Finals games and one NBA Finals in the 7 years they've been in OKC. Contrast that with the Hawks who haven't been to the conference finals since the merger...
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Re: OK, how does Ainge....
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2015, 01:07:05 PM »

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You may need a top 10 and 20 player to really force Durant to consider the team. I'd try for more of a balanced team by looking at a top 10 guy and two 30ish players as I think Smart could be a 30ish after another season or two.


1. At draft or I  believe more likely at this trade deadline try trade of Sully, Turner, AB, Mavs 1st, Cavs 1st, and 2016 Cs 1st, for Cousins(top 10 player at times). 
 
We probably lose out on lotto and make playoffs if we do at deadline but Kings can tank to get Towns or Turner or whatever they trying for. Seems Cousins Era is done there.

2. The Draft. Assuming Cs have Cousins and make playoffs in bad East. Grab a solid athletic PF player say Cliff Alexander, Harrell or Portis with the Cs middle round pick. Clippers pick draft another decent big for depth (and Zeller insurance) in D.Johnson or Upshaw. With Philly pick take a backup SF like Jake Layman or one of the two decent SF Euros in the draft.

3. Sign Reggie Jackson(top 20 guy on a given night) also maybe inside line to recruiting KD.

2015
Jackson, Smart, Young, KO, Cousins
Pressey, Dawkins, Layman, Wallace, Cliff, Zeller, D.Johnson

2016
Jackson, Smart, Durant, KO, Cousins
Dawkins, Young, Layman, Cliff, Johnson, Zeller*

Smart, Young and Jackson's flexibility allow for some great rotations with Durant. Plenty of big man options to compete with any front court in the NBA.
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Re: OK, how does Ainge....
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2015, 01:30:23 PM »

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The answer is through a long and intricate series of trade ideas posted online.  Once someone hits the exact right sequence it will inevitably happen.  I just hope we're up to the task...
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Re: OK, how does Ainge....
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2015, 01:30:38 PM »

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I like RJackson.  I think he might be a realistic target.  Who knows, maybe he can turn into the next Jeff Teague.  Pair him with MSmart and we might have a dynamite backcourt.
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Re: OK, how does Ainge....
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2015, 01:49:44 PM »

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Quote from: foulweatherfan on January 31, 2015, 01:30:23 PM
The answer is through a long and intricate series of trade ideas posted online.  Once someone hits the exact right sequence it will inevitably happen.  I just hope we're up to the task...

It is certain to happen. A million CBers typing trade ideas on a million computers...
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Re: OK, how does Ainge....
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2015, 03:48:13 PM »

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Quote from: Rosco917 on January 31, 2015, 10:55:10 AM
Quote from: coco on January 31, 2015, 10:38:24 AM
That would be nice.

But lets keep in mind that ATL is winning with hustle and team play, while OKC - with Durant and Westbrook - might miss the playoffs.

So, yeah, that would be great, but we can also win without him.


The above is how you should feel, you shouldn't be thinking about your next shirt with a number on the back. I'm watching Atlanta looking to win 20 in a row, with no super star on the team.

The East hasn't been this easy since the Nets went to the finals in 2002 and 2003.
The Hawks are a great team but they are probably not a championship caliber team.
If they were to win, they'd arguably be the poorest team to come out of the East in the the last 12 years, although the Magic give them a serious run for their money in 2009- they'd certainly be the poorest championship team in the last 25 years.
 
 Not sure if you heard Ainge on CSNNE radio a few weeks ago when they asked him if the Hawks were an inspiration for teams trying to build a team without superstars available. He said that the Hawks were a great example of coaching and talent development but said he didn't think they were a championship caliber team.
Chicago and Cleveland should beat ATL quite comfortably in a 7 game series with the right coach and line up etc...

Anyway, my point is that the East won't be this easy for long-and by the time we are ready to contend (without a current superstar like Lebron, Durant or Love etc..) then it should be, back to at least normal standards.

Superstars = championships.

It's a simple formula that has never failed in the modern NBA.
One or two superstars from the West vs one or two superstars from the East and some excellent role players and coaching. And a bit of luck.
« Last Edit: January 31, 2015, 03:58:17 PM by chambers »
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Re: OK, how does Ainge....
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2015, 04:23:42 PM »

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there is nothing left to move.
Danny traded everyone and is left with nothing
but college prospects.
he failed.
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Re: OK, how does Ainge....
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2015, 04:27:44 PM »

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I think signing Reggie Jackson would be a nice first step.

My question with Reggie is, is he a 1 or a 2, if he's a PG having a bull dog like Smart as the 2 will be an asset for him. Jackson is what 6-3 he looks like a decent defender, having a Smart next to him will be a positive. We'd have a decent back court, Jackson, Smart, AB, and Turner.

IMO drafting the best center available out of college would be a nice next step. Even if he plays a backup roll to a free agent center signing.

This team needs interior defense, rim protection in the worst way. We are allowing backup centers to have career games on a regular basis.

And last...develop Young, and maybe draft another wing player.



 
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Re: OK, how does Ainge....
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2015, 04:28:54 PM »

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How?

Smart develops into an all-star , C's get a top 5 pick this year , Brooklyn 2016 pick turns into a top 5-10 pick , C's can sign some good free agents (Butler or Leonard, Monroe  types )

OKC fails to reach the finals the next 2 years

Then trade our young talent and more picks for Durant  ;D
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Re: OK, how does Ainge....
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2015, 05:02:52 PM »

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Quote from: Rosco917 on January 31, 2015, 10:55:10 AM
I'm watching Atlanta looking to win 20 in a row, with no super star on the team.

I read that all the time and think it's complete hogwash.

Al Horford is the 2nd best U30 big man in the league after Anthony Davis, in my opinion.
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In the summer of 2017, I predicted this team would not win a championship for the next 10 years.

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