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Brad Stevens and developing talent?
« on: January 29, 2015, 08:21:19 AM »

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What is your opinion of Brad Stevens and the development of our rookies/sophmores? i have to say so far I am somewhat dissapointed in his love of playing veterans.

One, Marcus smart is NOT getting the minutes even though he has produced when on the court. This is our #6 pick. yet he is on the bench to guys who wont be on this team in the next year or two. I dont think it will necessarily help his development.

same goes with James Young

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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2015, 08:38:34 AM »

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Brad Stevens wants to win games.

Guys like Prince, Bass, and Thornton are more reliable from game to game and Brad knows what he can get out of them. That's why he plays the vets over the inconsistent and mostly lost James Young.
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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2015, 08:39:20 AM »

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I am happy enough with how Stevens has handled Smart's minutes.

CBS started Smart for a couple of games. Smart played like crap. CBS put him back on the bench in a smaller role where Smart had less responsibility and pressure. Smart found his feet and has been steadily improving since then. Now Smart is putting up a strong claim to win back the starting PG position which I expect to happen soon. Probably in next few weeks.

I think Stevens has handled that situation very well.

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I am happy enough with how Stevens has handled Smart's minutes.

CBS started Smart for a couple of games. Smart played like crap. CBS put him back on the bench in a smaller role where Smart had less responsibility and pressure. Smart found his feet and has been steadily improving since then. Now Smart is putting up a strong claim to win back the starting PG position which I expect to happen soon. Probably in next few weeks.

I think Stevens has handled that situation very well.

Well said TP !

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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2015, 09:16:44 AM »

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Celtics are having a ruff go of it finding hidden talent .....other than a few guard pick up .

Almost every team out drafts or rather OUT ScOUTS the Celtics ....something isn't right

Fire the talent scouts ....hire good ones from the Bulls and Spurs

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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2015, 09:36:50 AM »

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He's getting these guys to play hard night in & night out. 

It's a slow development but I'm happy for the most part.  He's trying to weigh winning a game along with development of the young guys.   You see a lot of guys going one way or another.  Stevens seems to be walking a fine line of balance. 

I just wish this team was a lot more talented. 



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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2015, 09:49:04 AM »

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I'm mostly ok with the developing of the young kids. He coaching a team that is really defensively flawed at the rim. He's starting 6' 8" Bass at center. Mostly to show case him, but seriously, we have no young center to even try to develop.

He has to keep DA and the fans happy.

He's doing fine.

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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2015, 09:53:44 AM »

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Brad is doing a very good job with a difficult situation.

I bet he wishes he had stayed at Butler.

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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2015, 10:20:07 AM »

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I do not like or understand every single move he's made but I am happy with how he has handled the young players.

Smart is playing 22 MPG and will likely climb from this number. That's a good mark to me. He has been used on and off ball, has been shooting better and has less ill-advised shots than at the beginning of the year.

Young has played 89 min in total - 7.4 m per game played. To me he has not outplayed Avery, Thornton, Turner or other SGs and I do not believe he has to be force-fed minutes he does not deserve.

As the season progresses Brad has played him more. There was a stretch he played in 4-5 games in a row. I expect him to win more minutes as the season progresses.

I like the way Brad has handled ET the most. Turner is a few TOs less awas from becoming a useful player on both sides and that was in doubt at the beginning of the season. I believe a lot of this should be attributed to Brad.

At the same time I am a bit worried for Oly. I expected more steadiness this year and I believe to some extend Brad needs to put him in better situations - at least offensively.
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2015, 10:29:42 AM »

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I am very happy with how Smart is developing. I think Danny needs to trade Turner to further his development. As far as Young goes, I am not happy at all. There is no reason Thorton should be getting minutes over him.


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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2015, 10:34:59 AM »

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I am very happy with how Smart is developing. I think Danny needs to trade Turner to further his development. As far as Young goes, I am not happy at all. There is no reason Thorton should be getting minutes over him.

***I'm also very pleased with Zeller's progress. He has turned into a very serviceable NBA big man.

I would argue Marcus is outplaying Young. That's why he's seeing more minutes.
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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2015, 11:07:21 AM »

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I am very happy with how Smart is developing. I think Danny needs to trade Turner to further his development. As far as Young goes, I am not happy at all. There is no reason Thorton should be getting minutes over him.

***I'm also very pleased with Zeller's progress. He has turned into a very serviceable NBA big man.

I would argue Marcus is outplaying Young. That's why he's seeing more minutes.

I would hope a NBA veteran making $8.6 million a year would be outplaying a rookie. And I'm not sure he is. Thorton has no future here. He really does not help the Celtics win games either. 
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I am very happy with how Smart is developing. I think Danny needs to trade Turner to further his development. As far as Young goes, I am not happy at all. There is no reason Thorton should be getting minutes over him.

***I'm also very pleased with Zeller's progress. He has turned into a very serviceable NBA big man.

I would argue Marcus is outplaying Young. That's why he's seeing more minutes.

I would hope a NBA veteran making $8.6 million a year would be outplaying a rookie. And I'm not sure he is. Thorton has no future here. He really does not help the Celtics win games either.

He's certainly in that mode of player that can shoot you in a game/shoot you out of a game.  Some of the shots he was throwing up last night were headscratching.

There was one particular shot that drove me nuts.  I think the Celts had pulled within 3 and they came down into the offensive end and Thornton immediately jacks up an off balance jumper from the extended elbow with about 19-20 seconds left on the shot clock. Of course, he was off and the TWolves grab the rebound.

Shots like that drive me nuts.


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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2015, 11:13:25 AM »

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I am very happy with how Smart is developing. I think Danny needs to trade Turner to further his development. As far as Young goes, I am not happy at all. There is no reason Thorton should be getting minutes over him.

***I'm also very pleased with Zeller's progress. He has turned into a very serviceable NBA big man.

I would argue Marcus is outplaying Young. That's why he's seeing more minutes.

I would hope a NBA veteran making $8.6 million a year would be outplaying a rookie. And I'm not sure he is. Thorton has no future here. He really does not help the Celtics win games either.

He's certainly in that mode of player that can shoot you in a game/shoot you out of a game.  Some of the shots he was throwing up last night were headscratching.

There was one particular shot that drove me nuts.  I think the Celts had pulled within 3 and they came down into the offensive end and Thornton immediately jacks up an off balance jumper from the extended elbow with about 19-20 seconds left on the shot clock. Of course, he was off and the TWolves grab the rebound.

Shots like that drive me nuts.

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I am very happy with how Smart is developing. I think Danny needs to trade Turner to further his development. As far as Young goes, I am not happy at all. There is no reason Thorton should be getting minutes over him.

***I'm also very pleased with Zeller's progress. He has turned into a very serviceable NBA big man.

I'm with ya, Chief. Unless Young is slacking on his training and outside efforts to improve--which IMO reflects poorly on his coach, this late into his rookie year--he should have been getting minutes.

Wiggins wasn't outplaying anyone in the league for his first couple of minutes, but the investment in his playing time is now richly reaping rewards.

Last night Max and Grande were disagreeing on this, with Grande claiming that time in the d-league was sufficient for Young's development at this point, and Max (who has a little more direct experience with this) insisting that playing time at the NBA level was the best way for Young to really learn at this point.

I would argue Marcus is outplaying Young. That's why he's seeing more minutes.

I would hope a NBA veteran making $8.6 million a year would be outplaying a rookie. And I'm not sure he is. Thorton has no future here. He really does not help the Celtics win games either.