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dawkins for real-there is some bark in this puppy
« on: January 25, 2015, 04:19:09 AM »

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can this kid shoot even when well defended,sets 3 point record for red claws last night while scoring 27points and dolling out assists
what was more impressive he came back from a very poor shooting night the game before scoring only 9 points and missed all but one of three's 1-13 but the next night came back and went 8-19 several with hand in face or very tightly guarded.
there is some bark in this puppy-

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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2015, 06:43:08 AM »

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this kid hits three 's like layups and all ways has. it's not just a sweet stroke but his calling card. i think his wingspan 6-8 and he is 6-5 shoes on.Played for duke so he can play team defense positionly. .
 be fun watching a shootout with young.

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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2015, 08:38:30 AM »

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he may have some bark but no fangs-some assists,no defense-----but lights out shooter--

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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2015, 05:46:12 PM »

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He would make a good 6th man. 

Can shoot like Ray Allen.

It would be great to pair him up with Young on the wing.

Bring him up to the beantown,  move AB and go forward!
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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2015, 05:53:37 PM »

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He would give Stephen Curry a run for best three point shooter.

Take a look:

http://maine.dleague.nba.com/
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2015, 05:57:50 PM »

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Then why hasn't he done it in the NBA yet?

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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2015, 06:21:43 PM »

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Because people like Exum, Napier, McDermott, Capela, Huestis, Carboclo were drafted in the first round instead.

Not to mention all the Bozos in the second round.

The rest of the people were too busy watching Rondo stink up the place.
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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2015, 10:36:32 AM »

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Because people like Exum, Napier, McDermott, Capela, Huestis, Carboclo were drafted in the first round instead.

Not to mention all the Bozos in the second round.

The rest of the people were too busy watching Rondo stink up the place.

Cream rises to the top so does talent.    If he was as good as people said, he would in the NBA dominating.   There is something he does not do at the NBA level that is holding him back.

Let me try to bring some illumination to the optimistfest going on here.

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Weaknesses: Is pretty nondescript outside of his shooting ability … Never lived up to his expectations after being a highly touted HS recruit … Not overly quick or athletic … Played on some Duke teams with a lot of depth and some teams where he should’ve been more of a factor for minutes, and never consistently garnered much playing time … Poor ball-handling skills, and is mostly only effective when he doesn’t dribble … Not very instinctive, and at times thinks too much on both ends of the court … Toughness? Can he have ANY effect on the game if his shot doesn’t fall at the next level? ... Provides little on the glass and as a passer ...

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/andre-dawkins

It seems there are many things he does not do at the NBA level.   I think the fact that we signed denotes another trade is coming.

These are his NBA stats, not D league ones, but NBA ones.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/2488650/andre-dawkins

NBA Stats of note,   .17 FG%   .17 3P%

These are actual stats, not whimsical opinion or  .8 PPG

At best he might be a Steve Kerr type, three point specialist but he has a long ways to even to that.

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« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2015, 11:08:13 AM »

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late bloomer.  Played behind some guys while at Duke and also faced some adversity there.  Didn't get much of a look because he was consider a 1 trick pony. 

Looks like he's really worked on his game.  Has 1 premium skill-set (3pt shooting/FT shooting) which in the NBA can score you a job.  Danny scooped him up and I think he'll get a multiple year non-guaranteed deal from Boston.  He'll get called up after Thornton and/or Prince gets dealt. 

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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2015, 11:20:58 AM »

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I am rooting for him, just some people think we have hit gold, I hope their right but I am trying to help them stay grounded.  The window of opportunity is closing for him.

He never lived up to expectations at Duke, the death of his sister weighed heavily on him I am sure.

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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2015, 11:22:30 AM »

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I think you have to watch full game,i missed the first but was impressed with box score and 4steals ,He did not show this side in 2nd game.But give him credit he did come back and score 27 under pressure on about 50% shooting and at times well defended.Had a couple nice assists but defense looked weak, it is only his second game but he can shooooot

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« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2015, 11:47:25 AM »

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Thornton replacement?

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« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2015, 12:36:58 PM »

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Dudes a reclamation project.  That's it.

Most of those projects never get finished, never mind become fixtures.

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« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2015, 12:54:30 PM »

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Because people like Exum, Napier, McDermott, Capela, Huestis, Carboclo were drafted in the first round instead.

Not to mention all the Bozos in the second round.

The rest of the people were too busy watching Rondo stink up the place.

Cream rises to the top so does talent.    If he was as good as people said, he would in the NBA dominating.   There is something he does not do at the NBA level that is holding him back.

Let me try to bring some illumination to the optimistfest going on here.

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Weaknesses: Is pretty nondescript outside of his shooting ability … Never lived up to his expectations after being a highly touted HS recruit … Not overly quick or athletic … Played on some Duke teams with a lot of depth and some teams where he should’ve been more of a factor for minutes, and never consistently garnered much playing time … Poor ball-handling skills, and is mostly only effective when he doesn’t dribble … Not very instinctive, and at times thinks too much on both ends of the court … Toughness? Can he have ANY effect on the game if his shot doesn’t fall at the next level? ... Provides little on the glass and as a passer ...

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/andre-dawkins

It seems there are many things he does not do at the NBA level.   I think the fact that we signed denotes another trade is coming.

These are his NBA stats, not D league ones, but NBA ones.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/2488650/andre-dawkins

NBA Stats of note,   .17 FG%   .17 3P% in 4 nba games total and averaging 5.5 minutes of playing time per game.

These are actual stats, not whimsical opinion or  .8 PPG

At best he might be a Steve Kerr type, three point specialist but he has a long ways to even to that.
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« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2015, 04:36:43 PM »

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Just to be fair, let's not just look at Dawkins weaknesses from NBADraftNet.  Let's look at Dawkins strengths as well.

Strengths: A knockdown 3-point shooter with adequate size at about 6’5 206 … Not going to miss many open shots … Phenomenal shot when he has his feet set … One of those few shooters that can absolutely wow you just in warm ups, with his outside shooting ability ... Very fundamentally sound form, shows a compact and quick release, and can hit shots when contested … Clutch. Can make important shots … Generally stays within himself offensively and is valuable when dribble penetration forces the defense to help off him, leaving him space to shoot off kick outs … Strong … Pretty smart player and generally does things the textbook way … Decent defender … Not really a slasher, but when he does drive he usually is efficient and knows he has a way to the hoop …
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