Get Cousins NOW trade idea

[Celtics4ever]

No thanks. Never seen a spazz like Cousins before. A child in a mans body

I too think he can be a knucklehead and has maturity issues.  That being said he is a great rebounder and scorer.

[Endless Paradise]

I will never understand why people think the Kings would give up on a talented big man like Cousins right in the first year of the contract extension he signed.

[Celtics4ever]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhJg1finpyU

It's just a fantasy folks, not going to happen.

[PickNRoll]

I will never understand why people think the Kings would give up on a talented big man like Cousins right in the first year of the contract extension he signed.

What if he gave effort like this on every play?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7WubriEyHw

[Roy H.]

Cousins also is a mediocre defender. Sully , Nurkic  for example got the best of the matchup.  He loves blabbing at the refs about nonsense most of the time. Just shut up and play

Also not even close to true.  I hate to cut-and-paste, but...

At least as of a couple days ago, the Kings starting lineup of Cousins-Thompson-Gay-McLemore-Collison is statistically the best defensive lineup in the NBA, allowing 88.6 points per 100 possessions. 



Cousins is averaging 1.6 blocks and 1.3 steals, while dominating in defensive rebounding (second in the league in DRB%).  He's allowing 46.8% shooting at the rim, which ranks near the top of the league for guys who defend as many shots as Cousins does.  (The only guys better than him at the rim this year, among the top-25 in terms of volume of shots defensed, are Howard, Hibbert, Ibaka, and Duncan.)  He's also fifth in the league in Defensive Real Plus Minus.

Cousins has been an elite defender this year, and should be a legit candidate for DPOY.

[pearljammer10]

Cousins also is a mediocre defender. Sully , Nurkic  for example got the best of the matchup.  He loves blabbing at the refs about nonsense most of the time. Just shut up and play

Also not even close to true.  I hate to cut-and-paste, but...

At least as of a couple days ago, the Kings starting lineup of Cousins-Thompson-Gay-McLemore-Collison is statistically the best defensive lineup in the NBA, allowing 88.6 points per 100 possessions. 



Cousins is averaging 1.6 blocks and 1.3 steals, while dominating in defensive rebounding (second in the league in DRB%).  He's allowing 46.8% shooting at the rim, which ranks near the top of the league for guys who defend as many shots as Cousins does.  (The only guys better than him at the rim this year, among the top-25 in terms of volume of shots defensed, are Howard, Hibbert, Ibaka, and Duncan.)  He's also fifth in the league in Defensive Real Plus Minus.

Cousins has been an elite defender this year, and should be a legit candidate for DPOY.

I was also going to post this same exact quote but I knew you would step in with a better argument. Regardless, Cousins is a legit MVP candidate and is also top 5 for DPOY this year.

[PickNRoll]

Charlotte has also really found their defense with MKG healthy and Biyombo playing. They haven't logged a ton of minutes and their offense is terrible, but they went 7+ minutes without a FG last night to close the game and won in a game that was tight the whole way.



sorry for the tangent

[Real World]

Cousins is a risky acquisition because he's such a knucklehead.  Highly emotional, bordering on childish at times.  That being said, he's uber talented, and if you're the Celtics, he's a critical piece to speeding up a rebuild. 

If Cousins is traded, he won't come cheap.  I can't imagine the Kings trading him to begin with, but if they do, there will be tons of suitors, and he won't come cheap.  The one staple in NBA trades like these, is that the team trading the best player rarely ever gets equal value in return.  The Kevin Love deal may prove to be the exception to the rule, via Wiggins, but most of the time the best player is sold for 50-80 cents on the dollar.  It's just how it works in this league.  So while we'd expect the Kings to say no to all these possible deals, understand that while they would prefer to say no, if Cousins has to be moved, they will eventually be forced to say yes to the best offer on the table.  None of those offers will likely contain a franchise player going back to the Kings.  If a team had a franchise player to trade for Cousins, they either a) wouldn't trade him, or b) would be defeating the purpose of adding Cousins. 

[Depalma2002]

if Cousins has to be moved, they will eventually be forced to say yes to the best offer on the table. 

That's the whole thing. Cousins doesn't have to be moved so the Kings aren't going to be forced to take the best offer on the table. He has 3+ years left on his deal. He has no leverage to get out of Sacramento even if he isn't happy with his current situation.

This is why, my stance is there won't be a deal and the only way there is a deal is if some GM decides he needs to make a godfather offer for him.

The Kings won't need to accept 50-80 cents on the dollar until 2018. If you want to get him at bargain bin prices, you are going to have to wait until then. For now, he only gets out of a Kings uniform if someone overpays.

[slamtheking]

At least as of a couple days ago, the Kings starting lineup of Cousins-Thompson-Gay-McLemore-Collison is statistically the best defensive lineup in the NBA, allowing 88.6 points per 100 possessions. 



Cousins is averaging 1.6 blocks and 1.3 steals, while dominating in defensive rebounding (second in the league in DRB%).  He's allowing 46.8% shooting at the rim, which ranks near the top of the league for guys who defend as many shots as Cousins does.  (The only guys better than him at the rim this year, among the top-25 in terms of volume of shots defensed, are Howard, Hibbert, Ibaka, and Duncan.)  He's also fifth in the league in Defensive Real Plus Minus.

Cousins has been an elite defender this year, and should be a legit candidate for DPOY.

Seeing these figures for the Kings just begs the question why they don't play this line-up more and why is their record not reflecting this type of dominance with this line-up?

[PickNRoll]

if Cousins has to be moved, they will eventually be forced to say yes to the best offer on the table. 

That's the whole thing. Cousins doesn't have to be moved so the Kings aren't going to be forced to take the best offer on the table. He has 3+ years left on his deal. He has no leverage to get out of Sacramento even if he isn't happy with his current situation.

This is why, my stance is there won't be a deal and the only way there is a deal is if some GM decides he needs to make a godfather offer for him.

The Kings won't need to accept 50-80 cents on the dollar until 2018. If you want to get him at bargain bin prices, you are going to have to wait until then. For now, he only gets out of a Kings uniform if someone overpays.

His leverage is to start acting out, like a lot of kids.

[Geo123]

He is not going to be traded.  The Kings ownership has said this numerous times.  Now I would never say never but unless they are blown away with an offer (and nothing on here does that) it isn't happening.

Surely, they have a price, right?  Everyone has a price.  Smart, Sully, and 5 first rounders?  I mean, somebody has to blink at some point.  We're in uncharted territory, where absurd trades are not only possible, but might be necessary.  We can't draft 20 guys.

[SHAQATTACK]

Trade em Bass , Prince , and KO and a first pick   

[Endless Paradise]

if Cousins has to be moved, they will eventually be forced to say yes to the best offer on the table. 

That's the whole thing. Cousins doesn't have to be moved so the Kings aren't going to be forced to take the best offer on the table. He has 3+ years left on his deal. He has no leverage to get out of Sacramento even if he isn't happy with his current situation.

This is why, my stance is there won't be a deal and the only way there is a deal is if some GM decides he needs to make a godfather offer for him.

The Kings won't need to accept 50-80 cents on the dollar until 2018. If you want to get him at bargain bin prices, you are going to have to wait until then. For now, he only gets out of a Kings uniform if someone overpays.

His leverage is to start acting out, like a lot of kids.

And like a lot of parents, his tantrums will be ignored.

[hondobird33]

For Kings to trade Cousins you have to make it a "Godfather" offer they cannot refuse and the Celts have the assets to well overpay and still be fine.  If they do trade Cousins they will look to rebuild and shed the salary of Rudy Gay as well.  We may not want him but I think that is key to deal and we need a starting SF now that Green is gone.   

Celts give their two 2015 first round picks and one of their second round picks, their 2016 first round pick (keep the pick from BKN), and a second round pick, and their 2017 first round pick.  This is total of 4 unprotected first round picks and three 2nd round picks PLUS to add trade value give them Bradley, Crowder (to replace Gay), and free up their cap space and match salaries expiring contracts of Prince, Thornton, and Bass.  Finally the only pill they would swallow was to get salaries to match is they take Wallace.

Then Celts would go pick-up a premier PG such as Reggie Jackson.

Celts Line-up
Guards - Jackson/Turner/Smart
Wings - Gay/Young
PF - Sullinger/Olynyk
C - Cousins/Zeller   

Starting Line-up
PG - Jackson
SG - Smart
SF - Gay
PF - Sullinger
C - Cousins