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Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #660 on: January 26, 2015, 09:45:17 AM »

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While I'm upset that the Patriots may eventually end up losing the Super Bowl because of this nonsense...

If anything, I think the Pats are more likely to win due to this.  They're best when they play with a chip on their shoulder.

Don't you see, it is a conspiracy to help the Patriots? ;)

Wetzel has an interesting piece today about rumors that this was all a botched sting operation by the NFL
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/did-nfl-run-sting-operation-on-patriots-to-trigger-deflate-gate--051258575.html
I'm not sure what to make of it. Normally I think Wetzel does pretty good work, but this past week he's been one of those that swings wildly from deflategate storyline to storyline.
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Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #661 on: January 26, 2015, 09:46:40 AM »

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While I'm upset that the Patriots may eventually end up losing the Super Bowl because of this nonsense...

If anything, I think the Pats are more likely to win due to this.  They're best when they play with a chip on their shoulder.

Don't you see, it is a conspiracy to help the Patriots? ;)

Wetzel has an interesting piece today about rumors that this was all a botched sting operation by the NFL
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/did-nfl-run-sting-operation-on-patriots-to-trigger-deflate-gate--051258575.html
I'm not sure what to make of it. Normally I think Wetzel does pretty good work, but this past week he's been one of those that swings wildly from deflategate storyline to storyline.

I really hope the Pats shut every one up!

Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #662 on: January 26, 2015, 09:53:59 AM »

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Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #663 on: January 26, 2015, 09:56:35 AM »

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While I'm upset that the Patriots may eventually end up losing the Super Bowl because of this nonsense...

If anything, I think the Pats are more likely to win due to this.  They're best when they play with a chip on their shoulder.

Don't you see, it is a conspiracy to help the Patriots? ;)

Wetzel has an interesting piece today about rumors that this was all a botched sting operation by the NFL
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/did-nfl-run-sting-operation-on-patriots-to-trigger-deflate-gate--051258575.html
I'm not sure what to make of it. Normally I think Wetzel does pretty good work, but this past week he's been one of those that swings wildly from deflategate storyline to storyline.

Wouldn't shock me.  This league office has bungled item after item since Goodell took over as commissioner.   Can't remember who wrote it but was reading yesterday that if this thing was going on under Rozelle or Tagliabue, the course of action most likely would've been the league telling the organization to "Knock if off" when the problem first was presented rather than trying to set a trap or catch someone in the act.    Another thing to keep in mind is that there are reports that the guy leading the NFL investigation is a former Jets employee who was there during the whole Parcells/Belichick "I resign as HC of the NYJ" debacle back in 2000. 

The NFL certainly isn't doing itself any favors right now but it's the media storm that has really been the worst thing to rise out of this.    People had their minds already made up when Mort's report came out early last week.  Doesn't matter that it sounds like some of his info was offbase or just flat out wrong.  Once that report came out, it was game on as far as the media & football fans were concerned.   (ESPN looking the absolute worst of the bunch)


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Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #664 on: January 26, 2015, 10:53:46 AM »

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Thornton is killing it today again :)

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Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #665 on: January 26, 2015, 11:16:12 AM »

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Jeez I basically assumed that the 11 out of 12 balls thing was real because how could you falsely report an actual measurement that someone made.

I'll add that I thought the number was valid because 1) Mortensen is generally reliable, 2) if the report was wrong, the league allowed one of its Super Bowl teams to get its name dragged through the mud for a week without saying anything.

I just don't get that.  Maybe it's the "there's no such thing as bad publicity" angle, but at some point isn't the perception that your best teams are blatantly cheating bad for business?

Now, this won't be settled until the actual numbers are released, but I'm certainly a lot more skeptical of the media firestorm if the "11 of 12 balls were 2.0 psi off" thing was overblown.
Ya I still have no idea what the NFL as a whole has to gain from this. People do love villains, but it's not like the NFL is short on those.

And that's exactly why the NFL is making a show of doing something about a non-issue: so the fans don't think that the league is as dumb as it is. The ladt thing the NFL wants is for 2015 to be another 2014, as far as PR goes.
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Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #666 on: January 26, 2015, 11:21:39 AM »

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This is why I am a NBA/Celtics fan.  The NFL is a joke, beating of women and Domestic violence, a good portion of its players current and former will have major brain damage, they are basically selling gladiator games to foolish people.

The NFL just degraded its most important weekend and allowed the Public Relations wing of the NFL, ESPN, to thrash one of its most important and lucrative products Tom Brady.

And they did it to avoid all the uncomfortable questions regarding head trauma, the 1985 bears cannot walk and think, the many members of their league currently in domestic violence cases and the overall poor management of the entire league.

Nothing surprises me with the NFL, they would kill a child if they could make money.

Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #667 on: January 26, 2015, 11:28:22 AM »

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I agree with about half of that.
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Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #668 on: January 26, 2015, 11:30:05 AM »

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This is why I am a NBA/Celtics fan.  The NFL is a joke, beating of women and Domestic violence, a good portion of its players current and former will have major brain damage, they are basically selling gladiator games to foolish people.

The NFL just degraded its most important weekend and allowed the Public Relations wing of the NFL, ESPN, to thrash one of its most important and lucrative products Tom Brady.

And they did it to avoid all the uncomfortable questions regarding head trauma, the 1985 bears cannot walk and think, the many members of their league currently in domestic violence cases and the overall poor management of the entire league.

Nothing surprises me with the NFL, they would kill a child if they could make money.

Robert Parish ?

There are scumbags in the NBA too ....

Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #669 on: January 26, 2015, 11:47:46 AM »

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Just had a very interesting phone call about #DeflateGate. Waiting for one more call. Stay tuned.

Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #670 on: January 26, 2015, 11:48:55 AM »

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This is why I am a NBA/Celtics fan.  The NFL is a joke, beating of women and Domestic violence, a good portion of its players current and former will have major brain damage, they are basically selling gladiator games to foolish people.

The NFL just degraded its most important weekend and allowed the Public Relations wing of the NFL, ESPN, to thrash one of its most important and lucrative products Tom Brady.

And they did it to avoid all the uncomfortable questions regarding head trauma, the 1985 bears cannot walk and think, the many members of their league currently in domestic violence cases and the overall poor management of the entire league.

Nothing surprises me with the NFL, they would kill a child if they could make money.

Not sure about that last sentence, there. But, for many of the reasons you list above, my wife no longer watches or cares about football. As a Pats fan, hard for me to step away...
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Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #671 on: January 26, 2015, 11:52:39 AM »

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As crazy as it sounds (and I had never heard of them before this thing), the Twitter account "Sharks of Vegas" has been on top of this #DeflateGate thing and been nailing a lot of news & items of note. 



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Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #672 on: January 26, 2015, 11:56:11 AM »

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As crazy as it sounds (and I had never heard of them before this thing), the Twitter account "Sharks of Vegas" has been on top of this #DeflateGate thing and been nailing a lot of news & items of note.

Mike Kensil story?
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« Reply #673 on: January 26, 2015, 12:01:47 PM »

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As crazy as it sounds (and I had never heard of them before this thing), the Twitter account "Sharks of Vegas" has been on top of this #DeflateGate thing and been nailing a lot of news & items of note.

Mike Kensil story?

That's the latest but they seemed to have been ahead of the game on a lot of the stuff that has come out post Mort report.


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Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #674 on: January 26, 2015, 12:19:13 PM »

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Just had a very interesting phone call about #DeflateGate. Waiting for one more call. Stay tuned.

Yes?
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