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#DeflateGate (Court of Appeals Reinstates Suspension)
« on: January 20, 2015, 11:47:47 PM »

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Thoughts on this?

Apparently 11 out of the 12 balls presented by the patriots were under inflated.
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Re: Deflategate
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Deflategate?

Re: Deflategate
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2015, 11:50:30 PM »

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All sides of this are dumb.  Dumb for doing it and dumb for making a big deal of it.

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Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2015, 11:52:13 PM »

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I guess these footballs need to be presented to referees who then give their stamp of approval. Afterwards they're set aside for the game. So the question is, were these balls presented as is and approved, or were they deflated afterwards?

That's what's going to matter because then it's on the refs.

Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2015, 12:08:06 AM »

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Even if New England deflated the footballs, the league is going to have a difficult time proving it. I mean, is there video footage of the equipment manager taking air out of them? Do they expect a signed confession from Belichick?

I still say it was the cold weather. And I also say this is much ado about nothing. No one batted an eyelash when Aaron Rodgers admitted to preferring footballs that are overinflated. There was no investigation into that.

And I'm going to make a prediction: If the Pats win the Super Bowl, there WILL be another scandal, another "fill in the blank"-gate. And if the Pats lose, there will conveniently be no issues brought forth by the media.
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Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2015, 12:08:55 AM »

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I guess these footballs need to be presented to referees who then give their stamp of approval. Afterwards they're set aside for the game. So the question is, were these balls presented as is and approved, or were they deflated afterwards?

That's what's going to matter because then it's on the refs.

Nah. Then the storyline would be, "The Patriots paid off the refs to allow deflated footballs."
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Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2015, 12:12:39 AM »

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Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2015, 12:15:06 AM »

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Re: Deflategate
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2015, 12:21:58 AM »

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All sides of this are dumb.  Dumb for doing it and dumb for making a big deal of it.

This.  Just a stupid situation.

Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2015, 12:28:15 AM »

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Boo...hoo... more sore losers. Time to add Seahawks to the list next. They will complain about something else guaranteed!
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Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2015, 12:30:11 AM »

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In any sport its up to the referee to check the ball to make sure its regulation.  Ultimately it comes down to the refs failing to do their job - a recurring theme with the NFL.  The fact that there was gamesmanship going on...so what.  It's part of the sport and always has been. 

Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2015, 12:46:58 AM »

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The refs underinflated only the Patriots' share of footballs by two whole pounds each but all of the Colts' footballs were just fine?

I don't think so.

Time for Pats fans to stop making excuses. This clearly had no impact on the outcome of the game -- the Pats whooped the Colts and deserved to win. But to go as far as to suggest that they are completely innocent in this clear act of cheating is extremely biased and continues to discredit the Pats any time they are accused of cheating from here on out.


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Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2015, 12:48:47 AM »

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In any sport its up to the referee to check the ball to make sure its regulation.  Ultimately it comes down to the refs failing to do their job - a recurring theme with the NFL.  The fact that there was gamesmanship going on...so what.  It's part of the sport and always has been.

The refs did check the balls, it is quite obvious that they were toyed with after they had been approved by the officiating crew. To further point out how asinine your comment is, it only took a few plays for the refs to realize that something was wrong with the footballs and they were immediately substituted in with properly inflated balls.


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Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2015, 01:06:47 AM »

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Actually they played the entire first half with the deflated balls.  The issue wasn't raised till Brady threw the INT late in half.  An official handles the ball before every single play so this went on for an entire half without anyone noticing.

Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2015, 01:09:38 AM »

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A few things:

1) Refs are allowed to discard any ball that does not conform. This is entirely in their court to deal with during the game, not after when someone ELSE makes a stink.

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"In the event a home team ball does not conform to specifications, or its supply is exhausted, the Referee shall secure a proper ball from the visitors and, failing that, use the best available ball. Any such circumstances must be reported to the Commissioner."

2) This reeks of Spygate in a "every one does it, but we got caught" kind of way. There's an entire SI article on how Eli Manning's game balls are personally crafted for 2 weeks ahead of time. Rodgers just went on record that he tries to get his game balls overinflated. Literally every team tries to tailor their footballs to their quarterback. It's a known thing.

3) This means nothing until someone addresses the basic physics here. 12.5 PSI in the locker room is about 11.8 PSI in 49 degree rain. And that's before 300lb men bash the thing around. And when were measurements taken for the investigation? Where were the balls in between?
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