I think it's time to trade Sullinger, Zeller, Turner. Or have them come from the bench
It's like every game we have to comeback from behind. KO, Bass,Thornton, Smart have to do the dirty work to try to get this team back within 10. Just start them so you don't get into a deep hole in the 1st place
The Celtics have one of the worst starting lineups in the league regardless of which combination of players they trot out there. They are going to regularly get beat by more talented opponents starting units.
The Celtics also have one of the deeper teams in the league. One of the better bench units. The Celtics 2nd unit should outplay opposing team's 2nd units fairly often.
Throw in games where you have bench players who are coming into games in low pressure situations because team is already in such a deficit and an opposing squad that is often relaxing when holding large leads ... and you have a situation where the bench will likely do very well after starters have done poorly. Giving unfair reflection of individual talents & efforts of respective starters / bench players on Celtics team.
Switch combination of players who start / come off the bench ... and you're probably going to end up with similar results. You are still going to have one of the worst starting lineups in the league and still have an above average bench. Lots of games where starters get outplayed and get team into early deficit and lots of games where bench does well (and better than starters) and outplays opponent while on floor.
I agree, and that's part of the reason why I don't agree with all the disapproval towards Stevens for replacing Prince with Turner (which coincided with Scals statement about LA bringing their starters back in). It's not Brad's fault that Turner sucks and that our starters are only slightly better than our bench players.
The score was 92-88 when CBS put Turner in @ the 3:16 mark of the 4th. All of their starters had been in at least around the 6 minute mark. We had made about 7 shots in a row b4 Turner was subbed in... we scored 5pts after Turner came in 3fts and a last second bucket by Prince after the game was more than over. So we pretty much didn't score a basket again once Turner got into the game.
It's not Turner's fault, he must have been ice cold after sitting on the bench since the 43s mark of the 3rd Q!
Stevens ruined that run by putting him back in at that moment, the momentum totally changed. The offense had the ball moving around to everyone out there not named Tayshun until Turner subbed in, you could see the offense go stagnant and Turner held onto the ball most of the possessions.
That is on the coach but can be forgiven after a few rants b/c he is still a baby in the NBA.
There's no way to say with any certainty that their starters wouldn't have overcome us at that point regardless of whether or not 1/5 of our lineup changed.
Isn't the fact that the ball ALWAYS seems to get stuck in Turner's hands and kill our offensive flow, once again more of a Turner flaw than a Stevens flaw?
You can say anything could have happened, of course. I'm not saying we would have won the game but it is a fact that we were on a big run and their starters had already been in the game 4 Turner was subbed in.
I never said it wasn't Turner's flaw, I said his play is his fault but it is Steven's fault that he brought him in and our run was immediately ended. You can't bring Turner in after all that time when our other guys were on a run. If you didn't see the game tone shift when Turner came in, that's fine, I'm saying I did and the score and time reflect that.
I was happy when he kept AB on the bench (all of our starters) for as long as he did, he should have let the guys who got us there stay in, win or lose! He has interrupted flow like that a few times during the season, with the starters or bench playing well.
Topic: Celtics (13-25) at Clippers (27-14) Game #39 1/19/15 (Read 48631 times)