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Re: Grizzlies may be looking to trade for Luol or Jeff Green
« Reply #45 on: January 08, 2015, 11:25:33 AM »

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Best case : prince and a 1st  for green and 2nd
Worse   prince and 2nd for green

Re: Grizzlies may be looking to trade for Luol or Jeff Green
« Reply #46 on: January 08, 2015, 11:36:32 AM »

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Does Green, Bass and some seconds for Gasol work?

I don't think that would be near enough for Gasol.
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Re: Grizzlies may be looking to trade for Luol or Jeff Green
« Reply #47 on: January 08, 2015, 11:45:15 AM »

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Does Green, Bass and some seconds for Gasol work?

I don't think that would be near enough for Gasol.

We don't have anything that they would trade Gasol for unless he asks out, and he won't , he's an mvp candidate on a contender . If he were to ask out, there is no reason for him to want to go to a lottery team. Memphis also has the upper hand to re-sign him this summer, and unlike us with Rondo, they actually want to commit a max deal to him

Re: Grizzlies may be looking to trade for Luol or Jeff Green
« Reply #48 on: January 08, 2015, 11:46:29 AM »

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Does Green, Bass and some seconds for Gasol work?

Maybe if you're adding Sully, KO, and 7 first rounders.  Still probably no, though.  ;)


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Re: Grizzlies may be looking to trade for Luol or Jeff Green
« Reply #49 on: January 08, 2015, 11:59:20 AM »

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Does Green, Bass and some seconds for Gasol work?

Maybe if you're adding Sully, KO, and 7 first rounders.  Still probably no, though.  ;)

What about Turner, Green, Bass and Celtic draft picks, in even numbered years, for the rest of the team's existence? That would allow us to keep our 2015 pick.

Edit - Hope people know I was joking.
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Re: Grizzlies may be looking to trade for Luol or Jeff Green
« Reply #50 on: January 08, 2015, 11:59:28 AM »

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I'd rather do a deal with the Trailblazers they have more young pieces that I would want.
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Re: Grizzlies may be looking to trade for Luol or Jeff Green
« Reply #51 on: January 08, 2015, 12:01:31 PM »

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Whatever we do between now and the deadline should stay within the confines of our 3 main goals. 

1. Acquire assets

2. Shave salary

3. DEVELOP YOUNG PLAYERS

#3 in my opinion is equally if not more important than the other 2.  When we pulled off the Ray Allen and KG trades for the 07-08 season, do not forget the brief development periods of , Big Al, Perkins and Rondo.  Big Al made the KG trade happen and without those other 2 guys, we do not win the title.  Danny also added new youngs that year like Big Baby and Leon Powe that contributed big time.  TA was another that we groomed over a few years to come off that bench.

This may seem like a tough time to watch the team play, but if we look at it through these parameters it makes it more fun.  Green and Bass are certainly on the "Acquire Assets" list and Wallace and a guy like Prince should be in that "Shave Salary" category.  Guys like KO and Sully and Zeller and Smart and Young...these are the dudes to watch.  IF they come along under Stevens as they should, we are set up nicely IF the cards fall right.

Big IFs but necessary gambles we had to take once we knew Rondo wasn't going to re-sign.

Re: Grizzlies may be looking to trade for Luol or Jeff Green
« Reply #52 on: January 08, 2015, 12:14:35 PM »

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I think that the Griz are going to offer their 2015 1st rounder or Adams, plus Prince, and I think that we are going to take it.

A quick note about the Griz pick- if it falls in the 6-14 range then Cleveland has the rights to it. It doesn't look like that will happen, though, but the actual transaction is going to look pretty weird to account for all of the possibilities.

I am not sure how the 2015 1st rounder could happen.

What the Nuggets (via Cle) have in their pocket is a pick with the following protection.
1-5 and 15-30 in 2015, 1-5 and 15-30 in '16, 1-5 in '17 and 1-5 in 2018; unprotected in 2019

So if I understand correctly, Griz cannot trade any 1st round pick until incl. 2019, unless the pick is transferred to the Cavs earlier.

Thanks for the reminder that it goes to Denver. Could they not trade something like the following to Boston?

1st (1-14 protected) in 2015 -> defers to 1st (1-14 protected) in 2016 -> defers to two 2nd rounders

You are correct, my bad! They can still trade what they own.

The pick would then be ours if it fells between
6-14 in 2015 or if not
6-14 in 2016 or if not
1-5 in 2017 or if not
1-5 in 2018 or if not - defers to two 2nd rounders.

I went back and forth with someone else about this and no, I don't think they can just carve out the pieces they "still own" and trade them, due to the Stepien rule.

The reason: as an example suppose they get the 13th pick this year and move it to us. Because they didn't trade their pick to DEN, they would still owe Denver a 2016 protected pick which violates the rule against trading consecutive picks.

What they could do, I think, is convey to us a pick that comes "two years after the pick is conveyed to DEN." The problem is that with the protection on the DEN pick, this is basically equivalent to sending a 2019 pick.

And for the record they've already traded their 2016 and 2017 second rounders...which are not valuable anyway. They do have their own 2015 2nd rounder and another (low-value) 2015 2nd rounder coming from TOR.


Re: Grizzlies may be looking to trade for Luol or Jeff Green
« Reply #53 on: January 08, 2015, 12:19:26 PM »

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I'd rather do a deal with the Trailblazers they have more young pieces that I would want.

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Re: Grizzlies may be looking to trade for Luol or Jeff Green
« Reply #54 on: January 08, 2015, 12:19:50 PM »

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I've posted this trade idea a number of times, going back to October -- it's the most logical out there for Green. #UncleSnoozeButton for Prince, Adams and a 2nd. Just get it over with already.
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Re: Grizzlies may be looking to trade for Luol or Jeff Green
« Reply #55 on: January 08, 2015, 12:38:21 PM »

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Aside to @ESPNSteinLine report on MEM/Green: Cavs/Bos/MEM had talked re 3-teamer that would have sent JG to MEM, Koufos to CLE, picks to BOS


So we need another team besides the cavs to get in on a 3 teamer again

Re: Grizzlies may be looking to trade for Luol or Jeff Green
« Reply #56 on: January 08, 2015, 12:41:53 PM »

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let's trade Green for Courtney Lee!! oh wait..
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Re: Grizzlies may be looking to trade for Luol or Jeff Green
« Reply #57 on: January 08, 2015, 12:50:04 PM »

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Some of these trades are pretty crazy to me...

Do you think Ainge is at a position of strength ?  Because that's what it looks like from some of these trades.  Green is opting out after this season.  Are you willing to pay him 12-15 next year ?

I'd be surprised if Ainge got:

Adams + Prince = Green
1st round pick + Prince = Green

Ainge wins those two trades.  Both are similar to the Zeller robbery.

Re: Grizzlies may be looking to trade for Luol or Jeff Green
« Reply #58 on: January 08, 2015, 12:50:12 PM »

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Koufos Koufos Koufos Koufos

The Grizzlies are not trading Koufos!!!

Would you trade your feet for a second pair of shoes?

You were saying? Point is that trading Koufus, who is a FA and they'll probably lose for nothing, is a very real possibility.

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Aside to @ESPNSteinLine report on MEM/Green: Cavs/Bos/MEM had talked re 3-teamer that would have sent JG to MEM, Koufos to CLE, picks to BOS

Re: Grizzlies may be looking to trade for Luol or Jeff Green
« Reply #59 on: January 08, 2015, 12:52:24 PM »

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Aside to @ESPNSteinLine report on MEM/Green: Cavs/Bos/MEM had talked re 3-teamer that would have sent JG to MEM, Koufos to CLE, picks to BOS


So we need another team besides the cavs to get in on a 3 teamer again

how many picks I wonder, how lucky are we if it is 2 1st rounders? I'd pull the trigger on that one