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Any Fiction Writers on Here?
« on: January 03, 2015, 06:42:20 PM »

Offline jpotter33

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Hey Guys!

So I'm starting to dabble in some fiction writing, and I was wondering if any fiction writers on here could give me any helpful tips.

Right now I'm in a doctoral program and working with my Center for Healthcare Ethics as a graduate research assistant, so my writing is just a side project at the moment. I'm working on a fantasy novel with some ethical/philosophy of religion undertones, sort of in the Randian story-telling fashion. I'm now up to the writing stage, and I've done all of the world and character building along with the outline of the narrative.

The problem I'm having is that 99% of my writing experience has been academic in nature, and, stylistically, it has all been analytical or argumentative approaches to philosophical/ethical subjects. So I'm running into the problems of information dumps and a logical (as opposed to a creative) writing style that solves problems analytically rather than taking creative approaches to the narrative's problems.

The obvious answer is to just read more fiction, specifically the genre that I'm planning to write in. Over the years, I've read some from Martin (G.o.T.) and Tolkien (TLOTR) and several others, and I'm even more familiar with their cinematic adaptations. But I'm already reading approximately 400 pages a week for my program and research, so that's not really feasible.

Is there any helpful tips or methods to avoid information dumps and an analytical approach?

What I have so far reads more like a movie/episode script than a novel. How can I move away from that type of writing to a more "novel-esque" type of creative writing?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2015, 06:45:43 PM »

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I'm under the impression you are supposed to write about what you know or experience but I have my doubts about that.

I did see a book today at the library called something like "38 common mistakes fiction writers make and how to avoid them" Seriously. Maybe it could help

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That trade-trade-trade guy, Hawkeye or something, is a hell of a fictioner.
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« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2015, 06:51:20 PM »

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I'm under the impression you are supposed to write about what you know or experience but I have my doubts about that.

I did see a book today at the library called something like "38 common mistakes fiction writers make and how to avoid them" Seriously. Maybe it could help

Well Tolkien, probably the best fantasy writer to date, wrote The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings while he was a professor, which is my career projection right now. So I think there's hope for academics writing in the fiction arena.

And I've done quite a bit of research on tips for first-time fiction writers, but I haven't come across answers to the particular problems I'm having at the moment.

You think I could find that book online?

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« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2015, 06:52:04 PM »

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That trade-trade-trade guy, Hawkeye or something, is a hell of a fictioner.

Sarcasm or are you being serious? lol

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« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2015, 06:53:03 PM »

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I'm under the impression you are supposed to write about what you know or experience but I have my doubts about that.

I did see a book today at the library called something like "38 common mistakes fiction writers make and how to avoid them" Seriously. Maybe it could help

Well Tolkien, probably the best fantasy writer to date, wrote The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings while he was a professor, which is my career projection right now. So I think there's hope for academics writing in the fiction arena.

And I've done quite a bit of research on tips for first-time fiction writers, but I haven't come across answers to the particular problems I'm having at the moment.

You think I could find that book online?
There's a distinct chance or maybe a summary with examples or something. Possibly even a podcast reading of it.
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« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2015, 06:55:36 PM »

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maybe just try some exercises. Like try writing some love stuff, some hero stuff, some scifi stuff, some fantasy stuff, some political stuff and just see how you feel and where it leads you.

Unfortunately I think if you want to write about something you just do not know...liiikkke....the halls of Congress....orrrrrr.....a young soldier in the Crusades...you have to do serious research.   Even scifi can take serious research.

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maybe just try some exercises. Like try writing some love stuff, some hero stuff, some scifi stuff, some fantasy stuff, some political stuff and just see how you feel and where it leads you.

Unfortunately I think if you want to write about something you just do not know...liiikkke....the halls of Congress....orrrrrr.....a young soldier in the Crusades...you have to do serious research.   Even scifi can take serious research.

I'm not really having problems with the creative process. I know what I want to write, and I know how I want the narrative to play out in my head.

The problem I'm having is falling into an analytical mindset when putting it into writing. I'm used to writing concise, logical theses arguing for "x," but novel writing is not that type of writing. Do you see what I mean?

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« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2015, 07:05:01 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2015, 07:05:22 PM »

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maybe just try some exercises. Like try writing some love stuff, some hero stuff, some scifi stuff, some fantasy stuff, some political stuff and just see how you feel and where it leads you.

Unfortunately I think if you want to write about something you just do not know...liiikkke....the halls of Congress....orrrrrr.....a young soldier in the Crusades...you have to do serious research.   Even scifi can take serious research.

I'm not really having problems with the creative process. I know what I want to write, and I know how I want the narrative to play out in my head.

The problem I'm having is falling into an analytical mindset when putting it into writing. I'm used to writing concise, logical theses arguing for "x," but novel writing is not that type of writing. Do you see what I mean?
Um....I kiiiinnndddaaa see what you mean. Kinda.