LarBrd33 the difference is Boston played a terrible team while Dallas played the defending champions..
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic. Dallas just played the Spurs bench a night after the Spurs played an overtime game...
And Dallas looked worse than they normally do in spite of this. They average 110 points on 48% shooting... tonight they put up 99 points on 43% shooting despite the arrival of Rondo and the fact they were playing against the Spurs D-Team.
Again... so far Boston looks better and the Mavs look worse. That could change, of course.
you're such a Rondo hater it is unbearable! I am positive the Spurs bench would trash the Wolves squad that played against the Celtics 9 out of 10 times. You have a new player playing his first game for a new team at the PG position which is where essentially all plays start when the shot clock begins counting down and you expect what? That if Mavericks didn't score 150 points tonight then Mavericks are worse with Rondo?
OBVIOUSLY you did not watch the game or you had blinders on. Dirk was missing wide open shots. You talk about spacing, many of the missed shots Dirk got were wide open looks or shots he usually make. Parsons were also missing a few he usually makes. The refs were making many BS calls for the spurs.
I bet you are going to ignore that Rondo had the highest +/- for the Mavericks and say "oh you don't believe in +/-".
You are saying Mavericks looks worse however it could change. Come on! One game? wait a few weeks before making any statements which team looks better or worse.
I bet if Mavericks had beaten Spurs by 50 points tonight you would have discredited Rondo and said something like "it was Ellis or Parsons or Dirk why they won by that much".
Keep Hating.
I'm not hating. i watched the game. I don't think the Mavs are dramatically improved. I don't think the Celtics are dramatically worse. I'll miss watching Black White Chocolate, but I realize that his impact on the game is overstated.
So you are judging from ONE ONE ONE ONE ONE ONE game that the Mavs are not dramatically improved. You seem to forget that Mavericks had a new player in their starting 5 who they never played with before. While Celtics had players in their starting line up that are all familiar with each other, of course the Celtics are not going to look worse.....yet.
I reiterate, you are judging from ONE game. WOW.
With your methodology I guess I can do a survey and ask ONE person what they think about X and then assume that's how everyone think about X.
Uh... im not judging anything from ONE game. What we know about Dallas is pretty established. What we know about Rondo is pretty established.
If you added Rondo to a stagnant team of sharp shooters who was incapable of creating their own offense, I could see Rondo making a significant impact to that team by using his skill-set to generate scoring opportunities... Dallas isn't that team. Dallas is a well-polished offense with beautiful ball movement, excellent spacing and a multitude of scoring opportunities. They had the best offense in the league prior to the move. Adding Rondo will generate some excitement for them ... but I don't see how adding one of the league's weakest offensive players to the league's most efficient offense will allow them to suddenly become champions. They will probably be a solid team either way, but I think we will see minimal improvement.
Potential for major improvement: Minimal
Potential for problems: Depends how Rondo impacts the spacing and how Monta Ellis and Rondo co-exist.
" Dallas is a well-polished offense with beautiful ball movement, excellent spacing and a multitude of scoring opportunities. They had the best offense in the league prior to the move".
So if this statement you made is true, why is it they have lost against Spurs, Grizzlies, Warriors, Suns, Rockets and Blazers? They are capable of creating their own offense and so polished yet has been losing against every major West team. So by your thinking I guess they will even lose by a bigger margin against these teams or lose by roughly the same.
Okay then.
Best offense in the league... they give up the 7th most points in the league.
The hope for them is that Rondo helps their defense. That might be true. But I think he hurts their offense.
Why don't you actually look at the box score of those specific games. The Dallas offense has been very mediocre against the better teams in the league.
Neat... I'm anxiously awaiting to see the new-look mavs play against some of those teams. The Mavs offense tonight looked a little rough against Boris Diaw, Aron Baynes, Kyle Anderson, Cory Joseph and Marco Bellinelli. Had it not been for Monta Ellis going off with 38 points, they would have lost.
Wild guess that most teams in this league play worse against the top teams in the league. Seems to be logical to me. That doesn't change the fact that the Mavs have had the best offense in the league and just introduced a pretty major element that could hurt them.
I will remain curious to see how ball-dominating Ellis will co-exist if the Spurs give the keys to Rondo.
I will remain curious to see how ball-dominating Rondo will survive if he's forced to adapt to a free-flowing share-the-ball offense. It didn't work in Boston. Not sure why it will work in Dallas.
I think you are over-focusing on two things: stats and offense. Plenty of people have said
it will be hard for the Mavs offense to get any better than it's been. That shouldn't be a knock
on Rondo, but a testament to the Mav's offense. The problem is it's the regular season now, and early in the regular season is the part of the year when offenses face the least defense. As defenses tighten in the latter part of the season and especially the playoffs, good defense starts to win the day, as well as capable half court offense. Why worry about Rondo's effect on early season Mav's offense, when all that matters is the post-season and the style of play that moves you to the next round? The Mav's offense will be fine with Rondo. It can probably even afford to be slightly worse, a trend that would be expected anyway given what I just said about the arc of defense during an NBA season. Rondo's main contribution will come from his ability to disrupt, his IQ, his relentless playoff style, etc...You just ignore all of that it seems. The only thing that could stop him from returning to playoff dominance is a less than solid knee.
Which brings me to why I think it was dumb of certain Celtic fans to expect Rondo to play at full tilt with this Celtic team. If he had stayed with the Celtics I would have hoped he'd be the anti-Rose, play smart and save his knee for when the Celtics were relevant again. If I were Dallas I'd keep his minutes low for a while, especially if he's playing full tilt on his new knee.