Celtics are 5-4 in December

[Chris22]

I largely shared your desire to ditch Rondo, but I don't understand how one could both want to deal Rondo and want the Celtics to win games with the squad they have post-Rondo. The whole point of dealing Rondo and his veteran buddies on this team is to accelerate our bottoming out and thus accumulate young talent ASAP.

Team basketball is very important, but the idea that a team of 15 guys, all anywhere within the gap between decent and good, can win a championship is fantasy. This is a league driven by stars. The 2004 Pistons had multiple stars, whether they were superstars or not. The 2010 Cs that fell one game short of a title had multiple stars, including Rajon Rondo at the time.

The 2011-12 Denver Nuggets had multiple good players and lost in the first rounder. The current Atlanta Hawks team has multiple good players and will not reach the ECFs. These are the teams you seem to aspire to be. Without stars, these are the teams truly mired in mediocrity.

We have stars, and we have six first round draft choices in the next two years.

Let's start taking names and kicking a....

We do not have stars. Smart could become a star. One of Sully, Olynyk, or Young could break out and become a star (though I doubt it; I think all three will become very good starters). However, none of them are right now and you don't shift gears thinking you have a star. You shift gears when one of them throws out a season like Jimmy Butler is having now or Kawhi Leonard had last year.

I agree with you re: draft pick stash. Hopefully we will only have to tank -- sorry, develop young talent -- for one more year thanks to the Brooklyn picks. However as promising as those picks appear to be, our best shot at snatching up a blue chipper in the draft is to bottom out this year and ensure that the lowest pick we can get is 6-8, much like we did last year.

We disagree. That's ok with me.
Barring injury or trade, we are going to start winning.
I would rather go with it and use the picks to add talent as we go along.

Perhaps, though I think Ainge has other plans in mind. I don't expect to see Green and a few other vets on this team past February. The last couple months of this season will be horrific.

No, they won't.

And Green is overrated. We are ten points better with Green off the court.

So let's trade Jeff Green for a bag of chips and we can get BOS to the NBA finals next year at the rate we're going, lol.

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