You support the shirt, not the players.
The shirt's not worth a [dang] if the players suck.
I beg to differ. If you only want to support a contending team then why bother choosing a team to begin with. Just support whoever is doing well every year.
The club is bigger than its players.
You don't just support winners, but you don't blindly accept losers and put up with a team full of steaming piles, either. The second part is what homer fans forget.
So proper fans stop going when the going gets tough?
That sounds awfully Miami Heat-ish to me.
There is no such thing as a proper fan. The whole concept is nonsense. You're not a "proper fan" because you're willing to spend hundreds/thousands of dollars on a garbage product. You're just a consumer who's willing to spend hundreds/thousands of dollars on a garbage product.
And, as Bruins homers found out for years, and Cubs homers have been finding out for more than 100 years, when you accept crap teams from your ownership, you get a lot of crap teams and still have to pay for it. Homers like to pretend that some badge of honor. Outside the sporting world, it's generally known as being a sucker.
That's one way of thinking of it if you see supporting a sports team as a purely rational, economic transaction.
If that's the case, there are probably a billion better places to spend your money to begin with. You don't go watch sports because you want value for money.
I can accept divorcing your team if the ownership clearly has no intention of improving and is just hellbent on swindling the fans. That is most certainly not the case with the Celtics.
It's not about seeing supporting a sports team as a purely rational, economic transaction. It's about living in the real world. You're not a ""proper" fan because you own season tickets. You're not a "proper" fan because you buy jerseys (which would be player, not team, by the way). You're not a "proper" fan because you're willing to put up with a garbage product on the floor.
No matter how far up the homer ladder you climb, you're still just a fan.
What you call homerism I call loyalty, and you're basically saying that loyalty has zero value.
I don't think sports is the right hobby for you.
What you call Loyalty is just your attempt to justify bashing others for not accepting the same level of incompetence you accept.
As for my sports fandom, I've got over 2000 posts here, despite my leaving this board not long after the changeover. You can feel free to ask Roy Hobbs about the intensity of my fandom, if you wish.
If your argument is that we should stop supporting the team when it doesn't have good players, then your number of points means very little to me.
My argument is that you're not a better fan, or "proper" fan, just because you're willing to accept more failure than the next guy. This should be pretty easy to grasp.
As for the posts, they're meaningless on their own, which is a good thing for you, because you're not a "proper" fan if I choose to judge such nonsense by post count on a message board. The fact that I devoted time means something, though, and I did suggest you talk to Roy about my intensity.
Now, unless you've got something more than "proper fan", you've got nothing and we might as well end this.