I have checked it many times as Dalembert was a constant trade offering in my fantasy league last year. Multiple time I almost pulled the trigger but his play just wasn't that good. If Dalembert was rebounding like Dallas and Carlise needed him to rebound then why did they get bumped in the first round and then trade him to NY for a better center?
Like Kozlodoev said, I don't think Brandan Wright is a bad player. But in a trade for Rondo I would expect a lot more. And for our particular squad I don't see Wright succeeding due to being our 5th big man and not playing well for a rebuilding team where his role will most likely be expected to increase.
Holy mother of god...You use fantasy league value to form opinions here? I just...I don't know what to say. That is astounding. I can't even...yep, no words.
1> Wright doesn't need to be The Player You Build Around. He only needs to be an
asset that increases in value given an opportunity to play full-time, to be traded for an even better asset, hopefully for TPYBA. 2> And, lucky for whichever team acquires Wright and puts him to full use, that's an opportunity he didn't get the last four years because -- again -- the big men he was splitting time with were all...
established veterans, not just that but all players who had made All Star games, not only that but one of them is Dirk "One of the Best Players Ever" Nowitzki. None of those big men who kept Wright from getting bigger minutes were "journeymen". NONE. Tyson Chandler this year? No. Of course not. They all played well in the time they were alloted. Dalembert, for example, on a per-minute basis had one of his
best years. Here, I'll condescend to post the link:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/dalemsa01.htmlOnly pay attention to the per-36 numbers, because for the
situation of having multiple big men platooning a position?
That is all that matters. In his 20 minutes on the court, he was
just as good as a player who in a full game would have averaged 12 points, 12 rebounds, 2 blocks, 1 steal, on 57% shooting. That is
peak Dalembert performance,
All Star Dalembert, just reduced minutes. It looks like mediocre crap in a fantasy league, but in real life it's really valuable. Look, surprise, same goes for Brand and Kaman the year before:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DAL/2013.htmlIn their respective 20 minutes per game, they were each producing like efficient double-double borderline All Star caliber players. THAT'S VALUABLE. They produced like that because THEY ARE GOOD, but kind of OLD. Wright also produced like that, too, in similar minutes! Because? Because he is good. He would've played more, but there were older All-Star-ish guys ahead of him whom his coach liked to rely on more, for whatever reason, but including the fact that they were also good. This is not hard to understand. It's simple.
How in the world does such a basic topic need to be covered on a message board with presumably not-illiterate Boston sports fans?
And how can anyone in the world possibly think we'd snag not just Julius Randle but ALSO an unprotected first for Rondo? And that's the LEAST you expect? Are you masochists? Delusional? Both? Do you enjoy being severely disappointed and outraged at your favorite team for no good reason? If not, then set your sights on a realistic return for Rondo. I am a diehard homer. I usually measure Celtics players through green-tinted glasses. But good lord, people, this is beyond pitiful, to the point of horrifying. You are living in a past that won't come back, not if you are hoping for a 7th overall pick from the most recent draft, let alone ANOTHER first, let alone with no protections. Take a good look at what most other teams traditionally get for their NON-underperforming SUPER-stars. Not even that much. You need perspective, or you are all going to be miserable, or make others miserable like you're making me right now. This is painful now, reading this thread, with few exceptions. Please get smarter about the NBA.
p.s. To the Leon Powe guy: Sure, Powe had good per-minute numbers, not as good as Wright's except for one year when he did not play as minutes as Wright. Still, he was good. We saw it. Then he suffered, as you pointed out, a catastrophic injury. Had he not suffered it, he might have developed into a good full-time starter, if not here then elsewhere. Still, he was not even close to doing what Wright has done at nearly 20 minutes a game for FOUR straight years, especially the last two. Name anyone else in the league who has.
p.p.s. The comment directly above comparing Wright to Gerald Green is excruciatingly empty. Zero evidence, just a bunch of unqualified psychobabble. Are you a licensed therapist? How did you determine that it's more credible for you to armchair-psychoanalyze players than it is for me to use actual tangible facts about on-court production?
Is this thread indicative of the quality of this forum?
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