ESPN: Celtics and Mavs discussing Rondo trade

[jpotter33]

How is it leverage?

The offer is absolute garbage.

Just meaning the actual terms of a trade offer getting thrown out there to entice other teams to "up the ante."

I agree with Who's implied point, though:  it's pretty risky to publicize this sort of package as something that the Celtics are considering, because other teams may think that Danny is backed into a corner.

For instance, why would the Kings offer up Staukas and a #1 (for instance), if the Celtics are considering accepting significantly less value?

I think the unknown nature of the other picks is the kicker. Other teams might see it as, "Oh, Dallas is giving them two firsts for Rondo. We better try and offer better talent and at least similar draft compensation." But I could be wrong. The offer is garbage.

[TheFlex]

When Ainge traded Pierce and Garnett every Celtics fan hated it.

It will take time to appreciate but if Ainge gets that 2018 1st and it ends up in the lottery when Rondo is in his mid-30s on an expensive contract, we'll be delighted.

False.

Many of us were very happy with the Pierce and Garnett trade when it happened.

Didn't really hit up these forums back then. Just knew Celtics fans in my neighborhood. They weren't pleased.

[Beat LA]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--celtics-rajon-rondo-212808679.html

details on what is going on right now

The first two sentences of that piece really tick me off.

The Boston Celtics are engaged in discussions on several fronts to trade All-Star guard Rajon Rondo, with the Dallas Mavericks emerging as a motivated suitor, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

Boston has been exchanging proposals with several teams on Rondo, including the Mavericks and Houston Rockets, sources said.

With this kind of a track record, who would ever want to play for the Celtics as long as Danny Ainge is here?  I know that I sure as hell wouldn't.  The franchise - yes.  Management - hell no.   

[ronaldo943]

When Ainge traded Pierce and Garnett every Celtics fan hated it.

It will take time to appreciate but if Ainge gets that 2018 1st and it ends up in the lottery when Rondo is in his mid-30s on an expensive contract, we'll be delighted.

False.

Many of us were very happy with the Pierce and Garnett trade when it happened.

Didn't really hit up these forums back then. Just knew Celtics fans in my neighborhood. They weren't pleased.

LOL, this literally made me laugh out loud. TP to you sir!

[Tr1boy]

Before a deal is consummated, Dallas needs to confer with Rondo's agent, Bill Duffy, about the franchise's ability to re-sign him as a free agent in the summer. Those conversations wouldn't happen until an agreement is in place.

Does this mean, the deal is in place. Mavs get to talk to Rondo's agent. But if Rondo's agent flat out tells the Mavs he can't promise anything, then the deal is off??

Confusing, bc usually the talk with the agent happens first then a deal is agreed upon after

In case, if you missed my last post/question.

Someone able to elaborate?

[Beat LA]

When Ainge traded Pierce and Garnett every Celtics fan hated it.

It will take time to appreciate but if Ainge gets that 2018 1st and it ends up in the lottery when Rondo is in his mid-30s on an expensive contract, we'll be delighted.

False.

Many of us were very happy with the Pierce and Garnett trade when it happened.

Didn't really hit up these forums back then. Just knew Celtics fans in my neighborhood. They weren't pleased.

I'm still not.  You will never get equal value for legends, and that move was the absolute last straw for me with Ainge.  I'm surprised that he wasn't given a security detail, lol .  Red must have been rolling in his grave.  He NEVER would have done that, and his daughter told that to Slam in an interview shortly thereafter said deal was completed.  I knew that Danny had been threatening to deal guys like Pierce for years, but I never thought that he'd actually do it, and it disgusts me.  That is not how you treat all time greats.

[TheFlex]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--celtics-rajon-rondo-212808679.html

details on what is going on right now

The first two sentences of that piece really tick me off.

The Boston Celtics are engaged in discussions on several fronts to trade All-Star guard Rajon Rondo, with the Dallas Mavericks emerging as a motivated suitor, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

Boston has been exchanging proposals with several teams on Rondo, including the Mavericks and Houston Rockets, sources said.

With this kind of track record, who would ever want to play for the Celtics as long as Danny Ainge is here?  I know that I sure as hell wouldn't.  The franchise - yes.  Management - hell no.

Correctly managing a franchise means value is prioritized over sentimentality. Playing for Danny would be a heck of a lot better than playing for a front office constantly screwing up.

[knuckleballer]

How is it leverage?

The offer is absolute garbage.

Just meaning the actual terms of a trade offer getting thrown out there to entice other teams to "up the ante."

I agree with Who's implied point, though:  it's pretty risky to publicize this sort of package as something that the Celtics are considering, because other teams may think that Danny is backed into a corner.

For instance, why would the Kings offer up Staukas and a #1 (for instance), if the Celtics are considering accepting significantly less value?

Hopefully, because Vivek doesn't understand basketball as well as he thinks he does and is coming across as a bit of a nut.  I'm not sure I'd put much past him at this point.  Perhaps he foresees Rondo as the cherry picker in his 4 on 5 defense or his Jazz director. 

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

When Ainge traded Pierce and Garnett every Celtics fan hated it.

It will take time to appreciate but if Ainge gets that 2018 1st and it ends up in the lottery when Rondo is in his mid-30s on an expensive contract, we'll be delighted.

False.

Many of us were very happy with the Pierce and Garnett trade when it happened.

I didn't like it but I knew Ainge knows more than I do. I still miss Cap and Genie. I like how it's going so far and we haven't even cashed in yet... if we had to do it, it was never a bad deal but I'm sad we had too. 

[TheFlex]

When Ainge traded Pierce and Garnett every Celtics fan hated it.

It will take time to appreciate but if Ainge gets that 2018 1st and it ends up in the lottery when Rondo is in his mid-30s on an expensive contract, we'll be delighted.

False.

Many of us were very happy with the Pierce and Garnett trade when it happened.

Didn't really hit up these forums back then. Just knew Celtics fans in my neighborhood. They weren't pleased.

LOL, this literally made me laugh out loud. TP to you sir!

Lol, TP back at you good sir.

[LarBrd33]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--celtics-rajon-rondo-212808679.html

details on what is going on right now

The first two sentences of that piece really tick me off.

The Boston Celtics are engaged in discussions on several fronts to trade All-Star guard Rajon Rondo, with the Dallas Mavericks emerging as a motivated suitor, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

Boston has been exchanging proposals with several teams on Rondo, including the Mavericks and Houston Rockets, sources said.

With this kind of track record, who would ever want to play for the Celtics as long as Danny Ainge is here?  I know that I sure as hell wouldn't.  The franchise - yes.  Management - hell no.

i mean... ainge has tried to dump rondo for years.  He tried the same thing with Ray and when Ray understandably signed with the Heat, people here bashed him.  I supported Ray... it was the right move to make.  If Rondo hits free agency, he's leaving.  Hence why we're on the verge of trading him for a late 1st round pick.

[LooseCannon]

My guess would be that the leak is more likely to be coming from the Dallas end of the deal than Boston, with the goal to try to pressure Ainge into thinking that he's not going to have a better offer come along by getting the media, who seem to all think Rondo should be traded, to be a Greek chorus saying that Ainge has to agree.  I also think Ainge is the sort who would be mostly immune to such public criticism, if that is indeed the goal.

[blink]

How is it leverage?

The offer is absolute garbage.

my thoughts exactly.

[jpotter33]

Tomorrow morning is going to be like an early Christmas hoping to wake up to news of a good trade!

[rondohondo]

Danny is not doing that trade , such a garbage deal