Rondo needs to be traded Now

[Smitty77]

Yes, that lone data point on the far left is how Rondo's season compares historically to those of fellow guards. In order to qualify for the NBA free-throw title, a player must make at least 125 free-throws (those numbers dip to 76 and 101 for the strike shortened 1998-99 and 2011-12 seasons, respectively). However, because I wanted to look at free-throw futility rather than free-throw success, I did the inverse of the "leaderboard" metric and changed free-throws made to free-throws attempted when deciding whom to include in this analysis (for the 2014-15 season, players were required to have attempted 25 free-throws).

If Rondo does not improve over the course of the Celtics remaining 66 games, he will break the NBA record for free-throw futility of 30.9 percent set by Olden Polynice in 1998-99. Right now Rondo is in dead last out of what is currently 9,323 individual qualifying seasons since 1946-47. The record for lowest free-throw percentage for a full qualifying season by a guard was set in 1953-54 by Al McGuire, who shot 43.6 percent. McGuire would go on to become the head men's basketball coach at Marquette where his 1977 team won the NCAA title. In that championship game, his team, ironically, shot an incredible 23 of 25 from the free-throw line.

The good news for Celtics fans is that Rondo will likely improve as the season progresses. Even though he has never been a great free-throw shooter for a guard (he shot between 55 percent and 70 percent in each of his first eight seasons in the NBA—see chart below), if he shoots his career average prior to this season (62.1 percent) on his roughly 100 remaining free-throw attempts, he will "improve" to 54.6 percent. This would still put him in the bottom 0.6 percent all-time for guards.

http://regressing.deadspin.com/rajon-rondos-free-throw-shooting-is-historically-awful-1667445245/+kylenw

For his career Rondo has taken 1412 FT'S and made 61% of them

This year he has taken 30 at 30%


Why is his whole career thrown out , and we take a sample size of 30 free throw to make the point that he is a horrible free throw shooter?
I am not saying Rondo is a good free throw shooter, he is obviously not , but he is not as bad as he has been so far this year either .

Because many Rondo haters on this board dismiss clear logic when trying to prove that Rondo is worthless.  Surely 1/47 or around a 2% sample tells the WHOLE story:-)))  Insanity.

Smitty77

[Rodan45]

This is just a crazy idea I got, and I wouldn't mind some feedback.


Boston gives up: Rondo (sign & trade if possible), Jeff Green, 1-2 first round picks, Kelly Olynyk


New Orleans: Anthony Davis

[GratefulCs]

This is just a crazy idea I got, and I wouldn't mind some feedback.


Boston gives up: Rondo (sign & trade if possible), Jeff Green, 1-2 first round picks, Kelly Olynyk


New Orleans: Anthony Davis

If only

[GratefulCs]

This is just a crazy idea I got, and I wouldn't mind some feedback.


Boston gives up: Rondo (sign & trade if possible), Jeff Green, 1-2 first round picks, Kelly Olynyk


New Orleans: Anthony Davis

Sorry, for no feed back at first.

I would think that the pelicans won't trade him for anything anyone could offer

*edit*  and now I realize I should have just edited my first post, ha. Learning curve

[Rodan45]

This is just a crazy idea I got, and I wouldn't mind some feedback.


Boston gives up: Rondo (sign & trade if possible), Jeff Green, 1-2 first round picks, Kelly Olynyk


New Orleans: Anthony Davis

Sorry, for no feed back at first.

I would think that the pelicans won't trade him for anything anyone could offer

You're probably right about that, but one can dream

[GratefulCs]

This is just a crazy idea I got, and I wouldn't mind some feedback.


Boston gives up: Rondo (sign & trade if possible), Jeff Green, 1-2 first round picks, Kelly Olynyk


New Orleans: Anthony Davis

Sorry, for no feed back at first.

I would think that the pelicans won't trade him for anything anyone could offer

You're probably right about that, but one can dream

Absolutely!

I mean, if someone told me in 2005 that KG and Ray Allen would join Pierce two years later, I would probably burst into fits of laughter or tears of joy

So, as Garnett said ever so passionately, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!!   

 

[sunnyd656]

it's too late for a Rondo trade, DA blew it.  Teams are not going to pay anything close to value for a PG that is playing at a below average level since his injury....

Danny has ....never never blew it.

He is perfect

When you say perfect, I am assuming you are talking about his trade mark defense and his deadly shooting?  I can't believe a professional basketball player shoots 30% from the line....that is incredible...

Obviously wasn't talking about your reading comprehension.

[Boris Badenov]

Yes, that lone data point on the far left is how Rondo's season compares historically to those of fellow guards. In order to qualify for the NBA free-throw title, a player must make at least 125 free-throws (those numbers dip to 76 and 101 for the strike shortened 1998-99 and 2011-12 seasons, respectively). However, because I wanted to look at free-throw futility rather than free-throw success, I did the inverse of the "leaderboard" metric and changed free-throws made to free-throws attempted when deciding whom to include in this analysis (for the 2014-15 season, players were required to have attempted 25 free-throws).

If Rondo does not improve over the course of the Celtics remaining 66 games, he will break the NBA record for free-throw futility of 30.9 percent set by Olden Polynice in 1998-99. Right now Rondo is in dead last out of what is currently 9,323 individual qualifying seasons since 1946-47. The record for lowest free-throw percentage for a full qualifying season by a guard was set in 1953-54 by Al McGuire, who shot 43.6 percent. McGuire would go on to become the head men's basketball coach at Marquette where his 1977 team won the NCAA title. In that championship game, his team, ironically, shot an incredible 23 of 25 from the free-throw line.

The good news for Celtics fans is that Rondo will likely improve as the season progresses. Even though he has never been a great free-throw shooter for a guard (he shot between 55 percent and 70 percent in each of his first eight seasons in the NBA—see chart below), if he shoots his career average prior to this season (62.1 percent) on his roughly 100 remaining free-throw attempts, he will "improve" to 54.6 percent. This would still put him in the bottom 0.6 percent all-time for guards.

http://regressing.deadspin.com/rajon-rondos-free-throw-shooting-is-historically-awful-1667445245/+kylenw

For his career Rondo has taken 1412 FT'S and made 61% of them

This year he has taken 30 at 30%


Why is his whole career thrown out , and we take a sample size of 30 free throw to make the point that he is a horrible free throw shooter?
I am not saying Rondo is a good free throw shooter, he is obviously not , but he is not as bad as he has been so far this year either .

Because many Rondo haters on this board dismiss clear logic when trying to prove that Rondo is worthless.  Surely 1/47 or around a 2% sample tells the WHOLE story:-)))  Insanity.

Smitty77

Not to rain on anyone's parade, but you don't have to throw his career out to conclude he's historically bad.

Among all guards with more than 300 games played, Rajon Rondo is currently 3rd worst all-time (.614) in FT% - "surpassed" only by Slick Watts at .597 and Rumeal Robinson at .611. Rondo could very well end up, by the end of this year, as the worst-shooting guard of the modern era at the FT line.

And that is not a small sample phenomenon. Rondo is great at many things but he's an historically bad free throw shooter - if you limit the sample to players with >500 games played, Rondo is the worst-shooting guard ever from the line.

http://bkref.com/tiny/Zfdme

[Smitty77]

Yes, that lone data point on the far left is how Rondo's season compares historically to those of fellow guards. In order to qualify for the NBA free-throw title, a player must make at least 125 free-throws (those numbers dip to 76 and 101 for the strike shortened 1998-99 and 2011-12 seasons, respectively). However, because I wanted to look at free-throw futility rather than free-throw success, I did the inverse of the "leaderboard" metric and changed free-throws made to free-throws attempted when deciding whom to include in this analysis (for the 2014-15 season, players were required to have attempted 25 free-throws).

If Rondo does not improve over the course of the Celtics remaining 66 games, he will break the NBA record for free-throw futility of 30.9 percent set by Olden Polynice in 1998-99. Right now Rondo is in dead last out of what is currently 9,323 individual qualifying seasons since 1946-47. The record for lowest free-throw percentage for a full qualifying season by a guard was set in 1953-54 by Al McGuire, who shot 43.6 percent. McGuire would go on to become the head men's basketball coach at Marquette where his 1977 team won the NCAA title. In that championship game, his team, ironically, shot an incredible 23 of 25 from the free-throw line.

The good news for Celtics fans is that Rondo will likely improve as the season progresses. Even though he has never been a great free-throw shooter for a guard (he shot between 55 percent and 70 percent in each of his first eight seasons in the NBA—see chart below), if he shoots his career average prior to this season (62.1 percent) on his roughly 100 remaining free-throw attempts, he will "improve" to 54.6 percent. This would still put him in the bottom 0.6 percent all-time for guards.

http://regressing.deadspin.com/rajon-rondos-free-throw-shooting-is-historically-awful-1667445245/+kylenw

For his career Rondo has taken 1412 FT'S and made 61% of them

This year he has taken 30 at 30%


Why is his whole career thrown out , and we take a sample size of 30 free throw to make the point that he is a horrible free throw shooter?
I am not saying Rondo is a good free throw shooter, he is obviously not , but he is not as bad as he has been so far this year either .

Because many Rondo haters on this board dismiss clear logic when trying to prove that Rondo is worthless.  Surely 1/47 or around a 2% sample tells the WHOLE story:-)))  Insanity.

Smitty77

Not to rain on anyone's parade, but you don't have to throw his career out to conclude he's historically bad.

Among all guards with more than 300 games played, Rajon Rondo is currently 3rd worst all-time (.614) in FT% - "surpassed" only by Slick Watts at .597 and Rumeal Robinson at .611. Rondo could very well end up, by the end of this year, as the worst-shooting guard of the modern era at the FT line.

And that is not a small sample phenomenon. Rondo is great at many things but he's an historically bad free throw shooter - if you limit the sample to players with >500 games played, Rondo is the worst-shooting guard ever from the line.

http://bkref.com/tiny/Zfdme

Rondo is in the top 10 PG's of All-time in assist average per game:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/ast_per_g_career.html

#44 PG of all-time:  http://bleacherreport.com/articles/950542-50-greatest-nba-point-guards-of-all-time/page/8

He would be in the top 20 of all-time in steals per game:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/stl_per_g_career.html

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/3026/rajon-rondo

RR is the sixth best rebounding guard:  http://dimemag.com/2014/01/nbas-10-best-rebounding-guards/


18th best overall FG% of all-time among all guards!!!!

http://sportslistoftheday.com/2013/12/11/the-20-most-accurate-guards-best-shooters-in-nba-history/

So he isn't a great FT shooter.  Who the heck cares!!!!!!

Am I missing anything here?

Smitty77

[Boris Badenov]

Yes, that lone data point on the far left is how Rondo's season compares historically to those of fellow guards. In order to qualify for the NBA free-throw title, a player must make at least 125 free-throws (those numbers dip to 76 and 101 for the strike shortened 1998-99 and 2011-12 seasons, respectively). However, because I wanted to look at free-throw futility rather than free-throw success, I did the inverse of the "leaderboard" metric and changed free-throws made to free-throws attempted when deciding whom to include in this analysis (for the 2014-15 season, players were required to have attempted 25 free-throws).

If Rondo does not improve over the course of the Celtics remaining 66 games, he will break the NBA record for free-throw futility of 30.9 percent set by Olden Polynice in 1998-99. Right now Rondo is in dead last out of what is currently 9,323 individual qualifying seasons since 1946-47. The record for lowest free-throw percentage for a full qualifying season by a guard was set in 1953-54 by Al McGuire, who shot 43.6 percent. McGuire would go on to become the head men's basketball coach at Marquette where his 1977 team won the NCAA title. In that championship game, his team, ironically, shot an incredible 23 of 25 from the free-throw line.

The good news for Celtics fans is that Rondo will likely improve as the season progresses. Even though he has never been a great free-throw shooter for a guard (he shot between 55 percent and 70 percent in each of his first eight seasons in the NBA—see chart below), if he shoots his career average prior to this season (62.1 percent) on his roughly 100 remaining free-throw attempts, he will "improve" to 54.6 percent. This would still put him in the bottom 0.6 percent all-time for guards.

http://regressing.deadspin.com/rajon-rondos-free-throw-shooting-is-historically-awful-1667445245/+kylenw

For his career Rondo has taken 1412 FT'S and made 61% of them

This year he has taken 30 at 30%


Why is his whole career thrown out , and we take a sample size of 30 free throw to make the point that he is a horrible free throw shooter?
I am not saying Rondo is a good free throw shooter, he is obviously not , but he is not as bad as he has been so far this year either .

Because many Rondo haters on this board dismiss clear logic when trying to prove that Rondo is worthless.  Surely 1/47 or around a 2% sample tells the WHOLE story:-)))  Insanity.

Smitty77

Not to rain on anyone's parade, but you don't have to throw his career out to conclude he's historically bad.

Among all guards with more than 300 games played, Rajon Rondo is currently 3rd worst all-time (.614) in FT% - "surpassed" only by Slick Watts at .597 and Rumeal Robinson at .611. Rondo could very well end up, by the end of this year, as the worst-shooting guard of the modern era at the FT line.

And that is not a small sample phenomenon. Rondo is great at many things but he's an historically bad free throw shooter - if you limit the sample to players with >500 games played, Rondo is the worst-shooting guard ever from the line.

http://bkref.com/tiny/Zfdme

Rondo is in the top 10 PG's of All-time in assist average per game:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/ast_per_g_career.html

#44 PG of all-time:  http://bleacherreport.com/articles/950542-50-greatest-nba-point-guards-of-all-time/page/8

He would be in the top 20 of all-time in steals per game:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/stl_per_g_career.html

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/3026/rajon-rondo

RR is the sixth best rebounding guard:  http://dimemag.com/2014/01/nbas-10-best-rebounding-guards/


18th best overall FG% of all-time among all guards!!!!

http://sportslistoftheday.com/2013/12/11/the-20-most-accurate-guards-best-shooters-in-nba-history/

So he isn't a great FT shooter.  Who the heck cares!!!!!!

Am I missing anything here?

Smitty77

I know all that and most other people here do as well, but you're changing the subject. I love Rondo, for what that's worth. But you have to admit this is a huge flaw in his game.

So, yeah. If you don't want to admit that, or if you want to pretend it doesn't matter, you're missing something. He's great at many things...and he's a terrible free throw shooter.