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Sullinger is the worst defender on the team
« on: December 03, 2014, 10:11:29 PM »

Offline celtics2030

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Easily. Wide margin.

He will never be able to play any deffense at his current state.

He should not be playing 30 minutes +, if or when this team actually improves.

A big part of the reason why this team is horrific defensively is because guys are getting minutes they are not supposed to, especially If you want to win.

I think Stephens has been told that It's time to make players look better than they are solely by statistics.

Re: Sullinger is the worst defender on the team
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2014, 10:13:47 PM »

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ET is easily our worst defender... Plus Monroe is a good low post scorer.
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Re: Sullinger is the worst defender on the team
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2014, 10:16:11 PM »

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...have you watched KO and Turner play D?  They're both way worse
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Re: Sullinger is the worst defender on the team
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2014, 10:19:55 PM »

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Re: Sullinger is the worst defender on the team
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2014, 10:25:47 PM »

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 Sullinger is a bad defender, undersized, out of shape.  He's a solid player, and definitely has talent but I don't see him ever being anything more than just a complimentary player in this league.

Re: Sullinger is the worst defender on the team
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2014, 10:29:15 PM »

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No.

No.

No.

No.

ET is easily our worst defender... Plus Monroe is a good low post scorer.


For the minutes he plays Sully is horrific!

Especially in the 4th , he basically is out of gas, he can still shoot the shots, but when he is on defense, he is doing nothing!

He barely looked like he cared, and im not saying he did not, but he was obviously too gassed to play any type of defense.


Simple fakes and he was cooked. He looked terrible, and maybe this is why they get beat down the stretch.

He plays too much for such a bad defender, but I get it....make him look good, and trade him.

Re: Sullinger is the worst defender on the team
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2014, 10:34:16 PM »

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Easily. Wide margin.

He will never be able to play any deffense at his current state.


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What is his current state ....besides Mass.  .?

Re: Sullinger is the worst defender on the team
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2014, 10:36:21 PM »

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Sullinger is the best player on our team.
He stripped two guys in crunch time and made 3 big shots.

Olynyk and Rondo are our worst defenders.

Re: Sullinger is the worst defender on the team
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2014, 10:37:13 PM »

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Easily. Wide margin.

He will never be able to play any deffense at his current state.


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What is his current state ....besides Mass.  .?

Tommy Point for meaningless correction. I'll give myself a Tommy Point for not caring either,

Re: Sullinger is the worst defender on the team
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2014, 10:48:28 PM »

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Sullinger is the best player on our team.
He stripped two guys in crunch time and made 3 big shots.

Olynyk and Rondo are our worst defenders.

Our record also proves a point.

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« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2014, 10:55:48 PM »

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Sully is a subpar defender, but he is a good rebounder and a decent scorer.   He is not an athlete and it is an athlete's league.  KO is a bad decender, Zeller is not great either.  Offensively though some nights KO is ok and some nights he is not.

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Sullinger is the best player on our team.  He stripped two guys in crunch time and made 3 big shots.

Monroe scored 29 on 9 for 17 shooting and Drummond scored 27 on 12 for 18, both above their averages,  I think there is plenty of blame to go around to the PFs and Cs of our team.

If Sully is your best big on the team your in trouble.

Re: Sullinger is the worst defender on the team
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2014, 10:57:07 PM »

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Sullinger's not a great defender. He could be passable, but none of our bigs play great defense.
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« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2014, 10:58:14 PM »

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Sully is a subpar defender, but he is a good rebounder and a decent scorer.   He is not an athlete and it is an athlete's league.  KO is a bad decender, Zeller is not great either.  Offensively though some nights KO is ok and some nights he is not.

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Sullinger is the best player on our team.  He stripped two guys in crunch time and made 3 big shots.

Monroe scored 29 on 9 for 17 shooting and Drummond scored 27 on 12 for 18, both above their averages,  I think there is plenty of blame to go around to the PFs and Cs of our team.

If Sully is your best big on the team your in trouble.

What do you mean if?

Sullinger is our best player.
And he won the game for us tonight.

Re: Sullinger is the worst defender on the team
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2014, 11:00:05 PM »

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It really boggles my mind how poorly Rondo/Green/Sully are perceived on here and yet every, what, five games(?) that Olynyk puts up double digit points, he's the next Dirk. Doesn't matter how poor of a defender he is, it only matters that he scored.

I'm an Olynyk fan, but give me a break. It's time some people on this site start admitting they may be wrong about Sully. It's his fourth year and he's averaging 16/8.5/2.5 (roughly) whilst steadily improving his efficiency as we wrap up the first fifth of the season or so. People started labeling the argument that he never had a healthy offseason to work on his game and body "an excuse," but there's really nothing to support that counter-position other than unsubstantiated theories that his stats will fall over the course of the season or that he's just lighting it up on a bad team.

Sullinger is not a good defender and was never advertised as one, but there's no reason to believe he can't be average when he isn't playing next to an arguably worse defender (KO), or behind unquestionably worse defenders (ET). Considering his value as an offensive contributor, that's all he really needs to provide on the defensive end to be the third or fourth best player on our next title contender.


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Re: Sullinger is the worst defender on the team
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2014, 11:01:43 PM »

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He's an ok defender IMO for one basic point he is hard to move.

Rondo's defense has been lacking for years now, he would be better utilized as a roaming defender.

KO is not a center so he looks worse than he is, he could be ok playing PF.

In general most players are being misused do to the lack of talent on the team, for example AB should be pressing guards full court but instead he is used as an offensive player because of our lack of scoring.