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Re: Rondo has been looking bad in crunch time
« Reply #165 on: November 29, 2014, 12:44:29 AM »

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Must make foul shots if he is the man to close the game. Or it will become hack-a-rondo.

Re: Rondo has been looking bad in crunch time
« Reply #166 on: November 29, 2014, 01:23:25 AM »

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You can't win with a point guard who can't shoot, especially can't shoot free throws.  That's indisputable.  Right now he's 9 for 26 for the year.  He can't be left on the floor at the end of games--the C's will need Banks or Pressey at PG, so how valuable can Rondo be? 

He's also a ball pounder at crunch time.

The C's should trade him for whatever they can get and also rid themselves of a clubhouse problem.
Actually we won our one and only championship in the last 25 years with this very PG.

People seem to have forgotten that as we got deeper into that championship run, Rondo was not playing in the 4th quarters. The lineups were typically house, ray, pp, posey, and kg to bring us home. 

Re: Rondo has been looking bad in crunch time
« Reply #167 on: November 29, 2014, 01:40:57 AM »

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We could of had this guy if rumors were true

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kneyUVR3tbE

Oh yes triboy, a guy currently with a 9.6 PER and averaging a whopping 10.5 points per game in almost 32 MPG and averaging 1.4 turnovers and ONLY .9 assist per game.  You are amazing triboy.
Ben stinks as he always has!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Heh. Pretty sure we never actually had a chance to trade rondo for mclemore.   Mclemore is an elite propect who looks like he's going to develop into an amazing scorer/shooter.  You don't give up that type of talent for a 1 year vet rental.   It sounds like Boston discussed trading the 6th pick for mclemore though.

Re: Rondo has been looking bad in crunch time
« Reply #168 on: November 29, 2014, 01:47:46 AM »

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Looking around the league I have so much envy of the other PGs that have proved to be much better than Rondo, and by a mile. Curry, Lillard, Rose, Westbrook, CP3, Parker, Wall, even Irving! All these PGs can come up huge in crunch time and have had more success leading than overrated Rondo. I'm glad he's being exposed the way he is as a mediocre player that hasn't gotten much better since his first big paycheck back in 2009. Bonehead Danny Ainge almost traded our #6 pick for Ben Mclemore, and even worse PG than Rondo, so there goes the hope that he's actually an elite GM. Rondo hasn't improved any facet of his game to earn a max contract, and little improvements like perimeter shooting and higher assists shouldn't be the reasons for max money. I hope Marcus Smart pans out better than this "elite" PG because I've never been so disappointed in a "star" player as much as this guy (mayyybeeee Antoine Walker but at least he had some clutch in him). I hope he understands he's not a top 10 guard and takes a pycut (15 million is fine for his highly limited movesets like lack of J, lack of FTs, lack of PPGs, lack of clutch gene). If not, bye bye Rajon.

Re: Rondo has been looking bad in crunch time
« Reply #169 on: November 29, 2014, 02:13:26 AM »

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The entire TEAM has looked bad in crunch time...not just one player.

Re: Rondo has been looking bad in crunch time
« Reply #170 on: November 29, 2014, 02:28:31 AM »

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You can't win with a point guard who can't shoot, especially can't shoot free throws.  That's indisputable.  Right now he's 9 for 26 for the year.  He can't be left on the floor at the end of games--the C's will need Banks or Pressey at PG, so how valuable can Rondo be? 

He's also a ball pounder at crunch time.

The C's should trade him for whatever they can get and also rid themselves of a clubhouse problem.
Actually we won our one and only championship in the last 25 years with this very PG.

I bet you money Rondo was not in the game the last 5 minutes of many of those games.

In fact they probably put in Eddie House to finish games.

Re: Rondo has been looking bad in crunch time
« Reply #171 on: November 29, 2014, 07:30:00 AM »

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You can't win with a point guard who can't shoot, especially can't shoot free throws.  That's indisputable.  Right now he's 9 for 26 for the year.  He can't be left on the floor at the end of games--the C's will need Banks or Pressey at PG, so how valuable can Rondo be? 

He's also a ball pounder at crunch time.

The C's should trade him for whatever they can get and also rid themselves of a clubhouse problem.
Actually we won our one and only championship in the last 25 years with this very PG.

I bet you money Rondo was not in the game the last 5 minutes of many of those games.

In fact they probably put in Eddie House to finish games.

They did put House in many of those games. They also used Cassell a lot too. We would usually go with KG, Pierce, Allen, Posey, and Cassell/House. This would give us incredible spacing and make it almost impossible to double team us.

Re: Rondo has been looking bad in crunch time
« Reply #172 on: November 29, 2014, 07:32:17 AM »

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4Q Rondo

7:43 Rondo enters the game
6:54 Rajon Rondo bad pass (Nikola Mirotic steals)
6:18 Rajon Rondo makes 8-foot two point shot
5:31 Rajon Rondo misses 8-foot Running Jumper
5:05 Kirk Hinrich blocks Rajon Rondo's layup
4:22 Rajon Rondo misses 9-foot Running Jumper
4:09 Rajon Rondo defensive rebound
3:59 Rajon Rondo offensive rebound
3:20 Nikola Mirotic blocks Rajon Rondo's layup
3:06 Rajon Rondo misses 17-foot two point shot
1:05 Joakim Noah blocks Rajon Rondo 's 18-foot jumper
1:04 Rajon Rondo misses free throw 1 of 2
1:04 Rajon Rondo misses free throw 2 of 2
0:50 Rajon Rondo loose ball foul (Jimmy Butler draws the foul; makes both FT's)
0:00 Rajon Rondo misses 27-foot three point jumper

Final 4Q Numbers

FG's 1-8
FT's 0-2
Turnovers 1
Assists 0
Rebounds 2
Fouls 1

My error. I overlooked Hinrich's block at the 5:05 mark. Everything has now been corrected.

Re: Rondo has been looking bad in crunch time
« Reply #173 on: November 29, 2014, 08:12:07 AM »

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Rondo's last 7 4Q's, in approximately 50 minutes of playing time, he has accumulated the following numbers:

FG's 6-23
FT's 0-5
Reb 7
Ast 15
TO's 6
Stl 0

33.3% of those assists came against the lowly Sixers, in a game which we won.
« Last Edit: November 29, 2014, 08:28:46 AM by Eddie20 »

Re: Rondo has been looking bad in crunch time
« Reply #174 on: November 29, 2014, 08:27:40 AM »

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Well that pretty much sums up my point that he is completely useless in the 4th quarter.

Re: Rondo has been looking bad in crunch time
« Reply #175 on: November 29, 2014, 09:06:10 AM »

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He's been bad in the 4th and crunch time in previous years as well.

Here's a reminder that Rondo probably knows the ugliness of his anti-clutch stats as well as anyone:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/28/sports/basketball/eyes-on-stats-nba-players-hire-help-to-crunch-them.html

Re: Rondo has been looking bad in crunch time
« Reply #176 on: November 29, 2014, 10:03:07 AM »

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Rondo's last 7 4Q's, in approximately 50 minutes of playing time, he has accumulated the following numbers:

FG's 6-23
FT's 0-5
Reb 7
Ast 15
TO's 6
Stl 0

33.3% of those assists came against the lowly Sixers, in a game which we won.

And most of those turnovers turn into easy fast break baskets for the other team.

Re: Rondo has been looking bad in crunch time
« Reply #177 on: November 29, 2014, 10:36:22 AM »

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Rondo's last 7 4Q's, in approximately 50 minutes of playing time, he has accumulated the following numbers:

FG's 6-23
FT's 0-5
Reb 7
Ast 15
TO's 6
Stl 0

33.3% of those assists came against the lowly Sixers, in a game which we won.

50 minutes of playing time! My Goodness, that's a cumulative game's worth of data!

At least a goldfish with a Lincoln Log on its back goin' across your floor to your sock drawer has a miraculous connotation to it.

Re: Rondo has been looking bad in crunch time
« Reply #178 on: November 29, 2014, 10:42:08 AM »

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Rondo's last 7 4Q's, in approximately 50 minutes of playing time, he has accumulated the following numbers:

FG's 6-23
FT's 0-5
Reb 7
Ast 15
TO's 6
Stl 0

33.3% of those assists came against the lowly Sixers, in a game which we won.

50 minutes of playing time! My Goodness, that's a cumulative game's worth of data!


Not sure I follow your sarcasm. The point of the thread is him playing abysmal in the 4Q. This is 7 games worth of data. For example, if a closer continually blows saves, say 7 in a 2 week span, are we dismissive because his total amount of innings amounts to 9 innings (an entire game's worth) pitched?

Rondo's 4Q issues aren't new, but they're further highlighted since he doesn't have the talent around him to mask them.


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« Reply #179 on: November 29, 2014, 11:31:52 AM »

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Rondo's last 7 4Q's, in approximately 50 minutes of playing time, he has accumulated the following numbers:

FG's 6-23
FT's 0-5
Reb 7
Ast 15
TO's 6
Stl 0

33.3% of those assists came against the lowly Sixers, in a game which we won.

50 minutes of playing time! My Goodness, that's a cumulative game's worth of data!


Not sure I follow your sarcasm. The point of the thread is him playing abysmal in the 4Q. This is 7 games worth of data. For example, if a closer continually blows saves, say 7 in a 2 week span, are we dismissive because his total amount of innings amounts to 9 innings (an entire game's worth) pitched?

Rondo's 4Q issues aren't new, but they're further highlighted since he doesn't have the talent around him to mask them.



I think his sarcasm makes perfect sense.  There isn't a whole lot of minutes in your little investigation.

But what also doesn't make sense is you trying to compare Rondo to a closer?  Even Rondo's biggest fans don't say that he is a closer.  Everyone knows that we need an alpha dog scorer.  We all no Rondo isn't it.  Trying to lump that into your ever growing faults for RR doesn't make any sense.  Next we are going to hear from you that Rondo needs to go because he isn't a Rim protector.  smh.