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Re: Sullinger a future all star?
« Reply #30 on: October 20, 2014, 05:25:12 PM »

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Averaging 15 and 10 in preseason so far is pretty good.
15 and 10 in preseason is a sure indicator he'll go off for 20 and 11 when the real thing rolls around, right? :P
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Re: Sullinger a future all star?
« Reply #31 on: October 20, 2014, 05:32:44 PM »

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I think Sully projects to being a guy who should be at the level of Horace Grant or A.C . Green -- each made 1 all-star team.   They each had flaws in their games but had very productive and long careers and contributed to winners.   And Sully has some extra offensive potential.

Sully is only 22(!) and has a lot to learn.  Add veteran NBA savvy to a growing skill-set and he'll be a very valuable player for a long time.  If he can be a legit 15/9 guy at 22 -- that's pretty dang good.

Re: Sullinger a future all star?
« Reply #32 on: October 20, 2014, 05:48:54 PM »

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Agree with everyone else who says his ceiling is probably poor mans Millisap or something. Doubtful he ever makes an all star team

Poor man's Millsap is about where he's at right now. At 22 years old. With lots of bad teammates.

  Yeah, a poor man's Millsap is probably his floor unless he can't stay healthy.

Sullinger is actually kind of looking like a potential all-star.

As for the Millsap comparison, Millsap is actually very very underrated because he has played in two smaller markets in Atlanta and  Utah that were around .500 and also came from a small college. That being said, his play in Atlanta has definitely surprised people and his numbers of 18 and 8.5 last year made people take notice. If Millsap lands on a different team after his contract runs out this year, he could make the all star team 2 or 3 more times (at least in the East). While the "poor man" comment is generally mentioned as underhanded, if he is slightly worse than millsap, he would probably make an all-star team himself.

Re: Sullinger a future all star?
« Reply #33 on: October 20, 2014, 05:48:57 PM »

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Averaging 15 and 10 in preseason so far is pretty good.
15 and 10 in preseason is a sure indicator he'll go off for 20 and 11 when the real thing rolls around, right? :P

He went off for 20ish and 10ish a lot last year.. he's on his way. He got 15 and 10 so far with less then 30mpg

Re: Sullinger a future all star?
« Reply #34 on: October 20, 2014, 06:05:56 PM »

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As for the Millsap comparison, Millsap is actually very very underrated because he has played in two smaller markets in Atlanta and  Utah that were around .500 and also came from a small college.
Millsap has a player that is nice to have, but his presence or absence is not going to make or break your team. Based on this, he's rated pretty accurately around the league.
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Re: Sullinger a future all star?
« Reply #35 on: October 20, 2014, 06:06:37 PM »

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numbers will put him in the running.  He's going to be known in fantasy ball circles if he can rebound and hit 3s, and average 15 at least per game.

And that will put him in the allstar conversation, but my gut suggests he might be a one-time allstar, a borderline star/good player, like GWallace was, David West, Ainge himself, etc.

But with 30 teams, and some teams having multiple allstars, there will be quite a few players that are are not there every year.

I mean, Paul Pierce was voted in by the coaches every year, and Sully won't make THAT level. 

Not a perennial allstar by any stretch, but could have a few really good years in his peak if he stays healthy and will likely be a productive player for a long time, and could make a game or two.

Very, very far from a sure thing, though.

Which means trading him for an established allstar is a no brainer, right?

Re: Sullinger a future all star?
« Reply #36 on: October 20, 2014, 06:56:43 PM »

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In the regular season, Sullinger encounters mismatch problems and still survives...good sign.
Stevens has devised a plan that exploits Sully's talent and this will help him.

Sully has no hops....he just doesn't and it IS part of the NBA game. Ask Big Baby, he was "big" but, he could elevate.

As above, the kid has enough stuff to get him into the conversation...one of these seasons...great nose for the ball at both ends. Third best player on a title team? I don't know about that...do you?

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« Reply #37 on: October 20, 2014, 07:04:43 PM »

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numbers will put him in the running.  He's going to be known in fantasy ball circles if he can rebound and hit 3s, and average 15 at least per game.

And that will put him in the allstar conversation, but my gut suggests he might be a one-time allstar, a borderline star/good player, like GWallace was, David West, Ainge himself, etc.

But with 30 teams, and some teams having multiple allstars, there will be quite a few players that are are not there every year.

I mean, Paul Pierce was voted in by the coaches every year, and Sully won't make THAT level. 

Not a perennial allstar by any stretch, but could have a few really good years in his peak if he stays healthy and will likely be a productive player for a long time, and could make a game or two.

Very, very far from a sure thing, though.

Which means trading him for an established allstar is a no brainer, right?

If Sullinger is an All star than keep him. If I were to trade him though, it would for a super star or a top ten pick. That's if he makes an All star team of course.

Re: Sullinger a future all star?
« Reply #38 on: October 20, 2014, 07:17:46 PM »

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I think some people underestimate Sullinger because they either didn't know about or didn't give much thought to his hand injury last year. He played with an injured hand for the second half of the season and it showed, particularly in his shooting. His shooting numbers will go up this year if he stays healthy. Also, considering his lack of athleticism, his great hands along with his basketball IQ are his biggest assets (yeah, OK, so is his rear end)
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« Reply #39 on: October 20, 2014, 07:27:50 PM »

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I called it first!

I think he's got the potential if everything goes well- he's an incredible rebounder on the offensive end. He was 7th in the NBA in offensive rebounds last season- pretty good playing out of position with a recovering back.

The three point shot and his back to basket game are two of the most crucial factors to his All Star status.

Another thing working against him is that PF is probably the most star-laden position in the NBA.
To think that Zac Randolph has only been an All Star two times says it for me. The NBA is stacked at power forward and point guard.
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Re: Sullinger a future all star?
« Reply #40 on: October 20, 2014, 08:10:41 PM »

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If he can stay healthy , with some luck. ...I think he can make it eventually. .."he must stay consistent and Celtics need to do,well as a team record to get him the attention he needs.

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« Reply #41 on: October 20, 2014, 08:12:22 PM »

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I think Sully projects to being a guy who should be at the level of Horace Grant or A.C . Green -- each made 1 all-star team.   They each had flaws in their games but had very productive and long careers and contributed to winners.   And Sully has some extra offensive potential.

Sully is only 22(!) and has a lot to learn.  Add veteran NBA savvy to a growing skill-set and he'll be a very valuable player for a long time.  If he can be a legit 15/9 guy at 22 -- that's pretty dang good.

I like the comparison with Horace Grant, but Sully is unlikely to be surrounded with the quality team-mates that Grant and AC Green had. I hope expectation doesn't outweigh talent in this case.

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« Reply #42 on: October 20, 2014, 09:09:02 PM »

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As for the Millsap comparison, Millsap is actually very very underrated because he has played in two smaller markets in Atlanta and  Utah that were around .500 and also came from a small college.
Millsap has a player that is nice to have, but his presence or absence is not going to make or break your team. Based on this, he's rated pretty accurately around the league.

I am not sure what you are really saying with this comment. Aside from Durant, Lebron, and a few other all-NBA players no 1 guy is going to make or break any team. On team with out a lot of other scoring options he got 18 points and shot 36% from 3 and 46% overall. Teams will be very excited to sign him, and have read from people like Zach Lowe, who seems to really know his stuff, that his last contract was an amazing steal for the Hawks and he was undervalued by the league.

Re: Sullinger a future all star?
« Reply #43 on: October 20, 2014, 09:54:15 PM »

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I believe reports that Ainge was targeting Millsap last summer because he properly valued Millsap.  I think that if he believed he could have worked out a deal for Millsap, then the Pierce/Garnett trade would not have happened.
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Re: Sullinger a future all star?
« Reply #44 on: October 21, 2014, 01:13:11 AM »

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tough crowd.  Good to see the pro-Sully gang come through on page 3....