Would Trading the Youth And/Or Picks for Vets Break Your Heart?

[Nerf DPOY]

Now, of course that question is impossible for most to answer without knowing the players involved in the trade proposal, as it would be a case-by-case basis. I stress "for most", though, as it seems there is a significant portion here that wouldn't part with Smart, Young,Olynyk, Sullinger or any high pick in any realistic trade proposal.

Now, it seems to me there are many here that regard Green and Bass as basically poison to this roster. While I agree they don't have much trade value, I still think both could play serious minutes for a contender for the next 5 or so years to come. I'm not closed off to the idea of trading the majority of our youth and some combination of picks for players in their late 20's to early 30's depending on who they were.

While I'm not exactly sure who these vets would be, under the right circumstances I'd trade for Horford or Hibbert, and would have moved mountains if we could have paired Love with Rondo. I'm not dead set against blowing it up and building through the draft, I just think maybe trading our assets and keeping our seemingly "less valuable" guys may be a better use of our resources.

[greece66]

YES! It would break my heart.
Hands off our talent and tanking opportunities.

[LarBrd33]

If they are impact vets then no...  I'm not even sure Sully/Oly are long-term starters in this league... let alone future stars.   Smart might end up really good, but we've yet to see him play in an actual NBA game... it's not like we can really be that attached to him.

Different from when Al Jefferson was moved.  I had been watching that kid develop for a few years and he looked like he was a lock for stardom.  Couldn't complain too much, because we got KG out of it, but it was still tough to see him go.  He never reached his full potential, but Big Al is now an all-star big leading teams to the playoffs.

[mgent]

Isn't that what we're all hoping for?

[Csfan1984]

Have to target a top 15 player if not don't bother trading guys. Save the assets and keep trying to draft studs.

If/When team has acquired two top 20 players then it can think about trading for vets and giving up assets. Without top guys this team won't win a championship regardless of the decent cast. Only two teams have won a championship without a top 15 player. One of those teams had a 50 greatest all time player. Other had multiple specialist and saw their opponent implode.

[gpap]

No

What would break my heart is if we are still in the bottom of the league within 2-3 years from now.

[Rondo9]

If they are impact vets then no...  I'm not even sure Sully/Oly are long-term starters in this league... let alone future stars.   Smart might end up really good, but we've yet to see him play in an actual NBA game... it's not like we can really be that attached to him.

Different from when Al Jefferson was moved.  I had been watching that kid develop for a few years and he looked like he was a lock for stardom.  Couldn't complain too much, because we got KG out of it, but it was still tough to see him go.  He never reached his full potential, but Big Al is now an all-star big leading teams to the playoffs.

Smart and Sullinger have All star potential.

[GreenFaith1819]

If doing so resulted in a team that would compete for Banners for 3-5 years then by all means clean the cupboard.

Party like it's 2007-08 again, except this time it's Rajon instead of PP.

And yes I still firmly believe we can build around Rajon Rondo.

[freshinthehouse]

Different from when Al Jefferson was moved.  I had been watching that kid develop for a few years and he looked like he was a lock for stardom.  Couldn't complain too much, because we got KG out of it, but it was still tough to see him go.  He never reached his full potential, but Big Al is now an all-star big leading teams to the playoffs.

I'd argue that AlJeff has reached his potential.  Did anyone see him as being more than a 20/10 marginal all-star talent?  I don't remember anyone thinking he would grow into a premium defender or 25+ppg scorer.  Besides the knee injury he's had a pretty good run.

[Nerf DPOY]

Isn't that what we're all hoping for?

I guess it depends on the vet. If it isn't for Lebron/Durant/Anthony Davis or Aldridge, then many here I think would see us as massively compromising our future. I guess my main point was that it feels like with all the wishcasting to the future roster I read about here, almost no scenario ever includes Green or Bass. Why not? They're flawed, but they're also still legitimate NBA players on the right side of thirty who figure to be affordable. If their trade value isn't really close to their actual value, then I'd consider keeping them indefinitely.

[LarBrd33]

If they are impact vets then no...  I'm not even sure Sully/Oly are long-term starters in this league... let alone future stars.   Smart might end up really good, but we've yet to see him play in an actual NBA game... it's not like we can really be that attached to him.

Different from when Al Jefferson was moved.  I had been watching that kid develop for a few years and he looked like he was a lock for stardom.  Couldn't complain too much, because we got KG out of it, but it was still tough to see him go.  He never reached his full potential, but Big Al is now an all-star big leading teams to the playoffs.

Smart and Sullinger have All star potential.

Maybe Smart... can't tell right now.  He looks pretty bad in preseason, but he's just a kid.

But I doubt it with Sully.  Maybe he reaches full-time starter, but I'd be surprised to see him playing on an all-star team ever.   Doesn't seem to have the potential.  Hope I'm wrong.

[gpap]

Isn't that what we're all hoping for?

I guess it depends on the vet. If it isn't for Lebron/Durant/Anthony Davis or Aldridge, then many here I think would see us as massively compromising our future. I guess my main point was that it feels like with all the wishcasting to the future roster I read about here, almost no scenario ever includes Green or Bass. Why not? They're flawed, but they're also still legitimate NBA players on the right side of thirty who figure to be affordable. If they're trade value isn't really close to their actual value, then I'd consider keeping them indefinitely.

I think if anybody is expecting to land Lebron, Durant or Davis in a trade, you're probably going to be disappointed.

[Boris Badenov]

The only player on the current roster I have any real sentimental attachment to is Rondo.

There are other guys I value because of their potential, but if we get more value back I won't miss them too much.

Even as far as Rondo goes it won't compare to losing KG or Pierce. Those two were the real heart of that championship team...

[LarBrd33]

The only player on the current roster I have any real sentimental attachment to is Rondo.

There are other guys I value because of their potential, but if we get more value back I won't miss them too much.

Even as far as Rondo goes it won't compare to losing KG or Pierce. Those two were the real heart of that championship team...

I agree.  It would sting to see Rondo traded, but I personally prefer that happening than seeing Rondo leave Boston empty-handed by signing Phil Jackson and the Knicks in 9 months.

The rest of the guys... mostly just trade chips. 

[Nerf DPOY]

Isn't that what we're all hoping for?

I guess it depends on the vet. If it isn't for Lebron/Durant/Anthony Davis or Aldridge, then many here I think would see us as massively compromising our future. I guess my main point was that it feels like with all the wishcasting to the future roster I read about here, almost no scenario ever includes Green or Bass. Why not? They're flawed, but they're also still legitimate NBA players on the right side of thirty who figure to be affordable. If they're trade value isn't really close to their actual value, then I'd consider keeping them indefinitely.

I think if anybody is expecting to land Lebron, Durant or Davis in a trade, you're probably going to be disappointed.

Well, I would describe Kevin Love as "up there" comparatively to them, and this summer people were bristling at the notion of trading for him! Guys like Hibbert and Horford, Millsap ---- the reaction of some is along the lines " No way! No flippin' way! Not even for hardly anything"

It's just another point of view and I can't say for sure they're wrong, it just seems many here think any player 28+ who's not a perennial all-star is basically negative value.