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celtics = spurs-lite?
« on: September 30, 2014, 11:00:40 PM »

Offline coffee425

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yes i'm repeating the same outrageous claim that i made a few months ago (http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=72909.0).


Brad's got my back this time though  ;D
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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2014, 11:04:30 PM »

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maybe extra lite

Stevens hopefully can make things work. He also can't please everybody.  He needs to bench anyone who messes up the system. That includes Green, that includes Rondo

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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2014, 11:29:13 PM »

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Its so vogue to reference the Spurs game plan. Masai Ujiri is committing pretty blatant plagiarism at this point. I'm sure Danny Ainge is taking notes. But at this point with the Celtics, trouping back basically the same terrible team from last year (now complete with early season Rondo injury!), it's more like New Coke than Diet Coke. Nobody wants to see it, nobody is really buying it, but everyone will give it a chance. And then hate it within a few short months.

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like that is always lethal." - Evan 'The God' Turner

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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2014, 11:37:52 PM »

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Its so vogue to reference the Spurs game plan. Masai Ujiri is committing pretty blatant plagiarism at this point. I'm sure Danny Ainge is taking notes. But at this point with the Celtics, trouping back basically the same terrible team from last year (now complete with early season Rondo injury!), it's more like New Coke than Diet Coke. Nobody wants to see it, nobody is really buying it, but everyone will give it a chance. And then hate it within a few short months.

why is Ujiri committing plagiarism?

He is doing a great job with the raptors

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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2014, 11:38:13 PM »

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I think we are Spurs near beer.

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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2014, 11:55:25 PM »

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I think we are Spurs near beer.
NOTHING is as nasty as near beer, not even the celtics.  ;D
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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2014, 11:58:02 PM »

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i wouldn't be surprised if the spurs go to the finals or win another championship.

It's a great great team. Some great players and with a great coach.

I wonder again like many times i have before, what would of happened if we actually did get to draft Duncan.

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« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2014, 11:58:15 PM »

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No Duncan lite = no spurs lite

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« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2014, 10:14:52 AM »

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Its so vogue to reference the Spurs game plan. Masai Ujiri is committing pretty blatant plagiarism at this point. I'm sure Danny Ainge is taking notes. But at this point with the Celtics, trouping back basically the same terrible team from last year (now complete with early season Rondo injury!), it's more like New Coke than Diet Coke. Nobody wants to see it, nobody is really buying it, but everyone will give it a chance. And then hate it within a few short months.

why is Ujiri committing plagiarism?

He is doing a great job with the raptors

I meant he's stressing continuity, development from within, and looking to non-traditional sources for many of his players. He wants to create an environment where the guys don't just play for themselves or for a team goal; they play for each other too. He doesn't have a 2nd unit that is make up of half the foreign legion, but he'll get there.


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like that is always lethal." - Evan 'The God' Turner

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« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2014, 06:24:49 PM »

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No Duncan lite = no spurs lite

I agree. 

 This is why I still believe Greg Monroe will be a Celtic.  His shot is fair, his passing is superb and he runs the court very very well. 3rd in the Nation in transition points for a Center his last year in school.  He IS TD lite.  :)
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« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2014, 06:33:06 PM »

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My idea of Duncan lite would be someone who is almost as good on defense and a clear step down on offense, but with a lot of the same strengths and weaknesses.
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No Duncan lite = no spurs lite

I agree. 

 This is why I still believe Greg Monroe will be a Celtic.  His shot is fair, his passing is superb and he runs the court very very well. 3rd in the Nation in transition points for a Center his last year in school.  He IS TD lite.  :)

I don't think it's fair to Monroe to make that comparison yet. Greg Monroe doesn't play defense, he can't shoot. He's an athlete that can finish around the rim and rebound well against mediocre centers and PFs. That's pretty much it.
Tyler Zeller with Greg Monroe's minutes will likely have similar numbers within 2 years and his plus/minus will quite possibly be better than Monroe after this season considering his much better effect on the defensive end.
 In Monroe's defense, he hasn't played with a decent passing PG yet and is like to him paired with a Rondo type.

Tim Duncan is an all time great next to Kevin Garnett, and it's because they donate the game on both ends with intangibles. They are complete players at their position and once in a generation kinda guys.

Greg Monroe is a very good role player and probably reduces our chances of winning a banner if we invest $15 million per year in him.
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« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2014, 09:52:36 PM »

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I dont think the 15 million is as interesting to him as a system that he can thrive in is.
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« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2014, 10:04:09 PM »

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No Duncan lite = no spurs lite

I agree. 

 This is why I still believe Greg Monroe will be a Celtic.  His shot is fair, his passing is superb and he runs the court very very well. 3rd in the Nation in transition points for a Center his last year in school.  He IS TD lite.  :)

I don't think it's fair to Monroe to make that comparison yet. Greg Monroe doesn't play defense, he can't shoot. He's an athlete that can finish around the rim and rebound well against mediocre centers and PFs. That's pretty much it.
Tyler Zeller with Greg Monroe's minutes will likely have similar numbers within 2 years and his plus/minus will quite possibly be better than Monroe after this season considering his much better effect on the defensive end.
 In Monroe's defense, he hasn't played with a decent passing PG yet and is like to him paired with a Rondo type.

Tim Duncan is an all time great next to Kevin Garnett, and it's because they donate the game on both ends with intangibles. They are complete players at their position and once in a generation kinda guys.

Greg Monroe is a very good role player and probably reduces our chances of winning a banner if we invest $15 million per year in him.

I'll say this about Tyler Zeller; he's a player on a NBA team. You can't dispute that.

"You've gotta respect a 15-percent 3-point shooter. A guy
like that is always lethal." - Evan 'The God' Turner

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« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2014, 10:29:50 PM »

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No Duncan lite = no spurs lite

I agree. 

 This is why I still believe Greg Monroe will be a Celtic.  His shot is fair, his passing is superb and he runs the court very very well. 3rd in the Nation in transition points for a Center his last year in school.  He IS TD lite.  :)

I don't think it's fair to Monroe to make that comparison yet. Greg Monroe doesn't play defense, he can't shoot. He's an athlete that can finish around the rim and rebound well against mediocre centers and PFs. That's pretty much it.
Tyler Zeller with Greg Monroe's minutes will likely have similar numbers within 2 years and his plus/minus will quite possibly be better than Monroe after this season considering his much better effect on the defensive end.
 In Monroe's defense, he hasn't played with a decent passing PG yet and is like to him paired with a Rondo type.

Tim Duncan is an all time great next to Kevin Garnett, and it's because they donate the game on both ends with intangibles. They are complete players at their position and once in a generation kinda guys.

Greg Monroe is a very good role player and probably reduces our chances of winning a banner if we invest $15 million per year in him.

I'll say this about Tyler Zeller; he's a player on a NBA team. You can't dispute that.

If it wasn't for the last offseason and some health reasons he was dealing with the cavs might of ended up not trading him after all.

He was considered the 2nd or 3rd best center out of that 2012 draft.  This is going to be a big year for him