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Smart/Thornton for Sanders/Knight
« on: September 22, 2014, 01:36:44 PM »

Offline nostar

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I replied to another post with this idea but after thinking about it a little more I decided it deserved it's own thread.

Milwaukee is a pretty interesting team. Right now I'd say they project in the lottery but they have tons of potential at every position except PG and SG. Assuming that the Greek freak doesn't end up being the league's first 7ft PG (I would put the odds pretty low) I'd like to think they'd jump at the opportunity to get a defensive minded PG. I doubt they would give up Henson, Parker or Giannis so I'd ask for Sanders and Knight. That would leave their lineup:

Henson
Giannis
Parker
Dudley
Smart

with Mayo/Ilyosova/Sessions/Zaza coming off the bench. That is a pretty intriguing team.

As for the C's we get a legit center (with some personality issues) and a backup PG that would compete with Pressey.

Rondo
AB
Green
Sully
Sanders

with Zeller/KO/Turner/Knight off the bench.

What do you guys think?

Re: Smart/Thornton for Sanders/Knight
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2014, 01:48:43 PM »

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I think the Bucks say no.

Re: Smart/Thornton for Sanders/Knight
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2014, 01:49:21 PM »

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Sorry. No. We have to keep Smart until we see what a player he is in the NBA. We don't want to be that stupid team that trades away a superstar for some peanuts (Charlotte Hornets- Kobe)
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Re: Smart/Thornton for Sanders/Knight
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2014, 02:27:32 PM »

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I think the Bucks say no.
The Bucks say no to this theoretical trade, but Boston would never offer or accept this trade. Sanders had to do 6 weeks of rehab this summer, he is not worth the 6th pick; especially when the 6th pick is Marcus Smart!

IMO Smart is here for his career.

Re: Smart/Thornton for Sanders/Knight
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2014, 04:00:53 PM »

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If we keep AB and Rondo why would we get Knight?   Do you guys just write names on a dart board to come up with these trades because they make that much sense all too often?

Re: Smart/Thornton for Sanders/Knight
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2014, 04:27:28 PM »

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Best I could see a deal being for Sanders is

Thornton, Bass, Anthony, Clippers 1st, and a Brooklyn 1st

For Sanders and Ily

Bucks dump 2 guys who they don't want because of salaries and disappointments picking up cap space and 2 first.

C's do it only if they like Sanders and Ily enough.

I myself don't but this is a comprise trade based on how much some love Sanders on here.

Re: Smart/Thornton for Sanders/Knight
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2014, 04:30:02 PM »

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Milwauke will never trade  their starting PG and C for someone whos never played a professional game of basketball ever!!. This trade doesnt get done in real life, in yahoo fantasy, or even in this blogs DKC league.. shouldnt of even been mentioned to be honest.

Re: Smart/Thornton for Sanders/Knight
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2014, 06:21:06 PM »

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Sorry. No. We have to keep Smart until we see what a player he is in the NBA. We don't want to be that stupid team that trades away a superstar for some peanuts (Charlotte Hornets- Kobe)

Much like you don't know what you have in Smart yet, I think Sanders has plenty to prove as well.  The risk with Sanders is just too high when you combine the contract with the injuries with the off court/personal uncertainties.  I am not nearly as high on Sanders as some here are.

Re: Smart/Thornton for Sanders/Knight
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2014, 06:44:04 PM »

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Sorry. No. We have to keep Smart until we see what a player he is in the NBA. We don't want to be that stupid team that trades away a superstar for some peanuts (Charlotte Hornets- Kobe)

Much like you don't know what you have in Smart yet, I think Sanders has plenty to prove as well.  The risk with Sanders is just too high when you combine the contract with the injuries with the off court/personal uncertainties.  I am not nearly as high on Sanders as some here are.

TP - seriously, as I read through some of these responses that say Milwaukee wouldn't accept the deal, I am left a little dumbfounded. I mean, if Sanders were still on his rookie contract, then maybe a deal could be made. However, I don't value Sanders or his contract nearly as much as [apparently] so many others do.

I am not saying he has negative trade value, but if Mil was able to pull out a couple of expirings and a first for him, then I would consider that a win for them. There is at least as much of a chance that he becomes an albatross contract as him becoming an average center for the next 6-8 years. All hopes of Drummond and DeAndre Jordan need to be tempered immensely.

Re: Smart/Thornton for Sanders/Knight
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2014, 08:42:28 PM »

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Sorry. No. We have to keep Smart until we see what a player he is in the NBA. We don't want to be that stupid team that trades away a superstar for some peanuts (Charlotte Hornets- Kobe)

Much like you don't know what you have in Smart yet, I think Sanders has plenty to prove as well.  The risk with Sanders is just too high when you combine the contract with the injuries with the off court/personal uncertainties.  I am not nearly as high on Sanders as some here are.

TP - seriously, as I read through some of these responses that say Milwaukee wouldn't accept the deal, I am left a little dumbfounded. I mean, if Sanders were still on his rookie contract, then maybe a deal could be made. However, I don't value Sanders or his contract nearly as much as [apparently] so many others do.

I am not saying he has negative trade value, but if Mil was able to pull out a couple of expirings and a first for him, then I would consider that a win for them. There is at least as much of a chance that he becomes an albatross contract as him becoming an average center for the next 6-8 years. All hopes of Drummond and DeAndre Jordan need to be tempered immensely.
solid points.   

also not a fan of Knight.  if we were taking back Ily (just can't see the point of that without them flipping us another asset for the 'kindness' in taking too overpaid players off their hands) we'd need them to send us a pick

Re: Smart/Thornton for Sanders/Knight
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2014, 10:20:01 PM »

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That people disagree about which side says no to the trade could indicate that the trade is not lopsided.

A couple of noteworthy things. First, knowing what you have sometimes means that others also know what you have. If Smart is really an all-star then I guess I wouldn't want to make this trade. Similarly if Larry Sanders was a model citizen I doubt Milwaukee would want to trade him for an untested rookie. They both have flaws.

I do agree that Knight is not a need for our team. Bear in mind he's basically expiring at the end of the season (if no QO comes). He is a good backup PG and might be an asset around the trade deadline.

Re: Smart/Thornton for Sanders/Knight
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2014, 10:38:28 PM »

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I think, unlike others, that the Bucks would be more than happy to take a player with a huge upside like Smart for a high risk player like Sanders whom they owe $44 million over the next 4 years and a pedestrian guard like Knight. Why not just simplify this deal: Sanders for Thornton, Zeller and one of our less valuable 1st round picks. This gives them a useful 2 and a useful 5 plus cuts their long term salary obligation by over $30 million. We get a much needed, albeit risky, rim defender. I am not against taking a risk when the possible upside is so high (no pun intended).

Re: Smart/Thornton for Sanders/Knight
« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2014, 11:11:15 PM »

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This trade proposal aside, I just realized I'd trade our roster for the Bucks roster in a heartbeat.

Ugh.


Re: Smart/Thornton for Sanders/Knight
« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2014, 12:03:40 AM »

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This trade proposal aside, I just realized I'd trade our roster for the Bucks roster in a heartbeat.

Ugh.

Reading these forums, you would think the Celtics are the worst team in the NBA with their prospects viewed nothing more than garbage.

Re: Smart/Thornton for Sanders/Knight
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2014, 12:09:19 AM »

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This trade proposal aside, I just realized I'd trade our roster for the Bucks roster in a heartbeat.

Ugh.

Reading these forums, you would think the Celtics are the worst team in the NBA with their prospects viewed nothing more than garbage.
Grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.