What was Danny thinking with this pick? I am finding it hard to justify that he was the best player available. His age?
You were all over the idea of trading Young AND another 1st rounder for Rudy Gobert, who is three years older, could barely get off the bench for a terrible Utah team last season and was the 8th man for France in the Fiba tournament. Young, at three years younger, played 32 minutes a game for one of the best teams in US college ball, which I think is the third highest level of competition in the world.
Mike
Yes, you're right I was all over the idea of trading Young and a 27th pick for Rudy Gobert and I still am. Because Rudy Gobert, as I mentioned to you in the other post
Rudy Gobert had a 7.4 block percentage as a rookie, which would have easily led the league had he qualified (Anthony Davis and Ibaka held the top spot at 6.7). Gobert's 20.6 total rebounding percentage would have trailed only Andre Drummond (22.3), Jordan (21.6) and Andrew Bogut.
Gobert also graded out as a full-fledged rim protector, not a specialist shot-blocker. Opponents shot just 41.2 percent against him at the rim, via Spor**** player tracking data provided to NBA.com, putting him on a nearly identical level as two-time All-Star Roy Hibbert (41.1).
...Not sure what your point was but anyway I'd love you to provide your own opinion on Celticsblog and Celtics topics/debates rather than worrying about mine in every topic.
What does James Young bring to the Celtics?
Here's my point.
Someone who dumps all over a 19-year-old kid before he even steps on an NBA court while simultaneously drooling over a 22-year-old who not only could barely get off the bench for a horrible Utah team last season but couldn't beat out the mighty Joffrey Lauvergne for playing time on France's national team, despite Lauvergne also being just 22, might possibly want to reconsider how they evaluate basketball talent.
You want to talk stats? Basketball-reference.com says the average Win Share per 48 minutes in the NBA is about .100. Kelly Olynyk last season racked up a WS per 48 of .101. Gobert's WS per 48 was .045. Which means that despite his talent for blocking shots, Rudy Gobert currently SUCKS MONKEY MEAT AT PLAYING BASKETBALL.
Young might be a failure in the NBA. I can't argue against it because he's only 19 and I don't know how much he can or will get better over the next 3 or 4 years. But I can't stand to see him trashed by someone who wants to give up the equivalent of two first round picks for Rudy frickin' Gobert.
Mike
You continuously attempt to call me out, and it's yet another case of you beating your chest for the hell if it. You have no idea about Rudy Gobert, you just saw that he was a 22 year old averaging 5.5 Points per game at the worlds.
Again, I presented the stats with no acknowledgment from you and obviously no knowledge of Rudy Gobert's play and improvement.
Once again, I've asked a completely reasonable question: what does James Young bring to the table?
Rudy gobert brings length, NBA size and dominating reach and defensive presence. He's obviously raw and unpolished, but his numbers at every level he's played have been fantastic.
James Young's numbers don't highlight anything. He's got one of the worst true shooting percentages of all 2014 draft wings. He has no dribble drive game other than a slow, predictable left handed drive vs weak defenders. His 3 point shooting suffers badly when being defended tightly.
So I presented what I'd seen and asked people to input.
All you can do is attempt to point out what is in your mind- my flawed opinion in another thread-funnily enough another thread where you decided to judge my opinion like it's completely moronic or unsubstantiated once again.
I'm not sure you realize you're doing it but it's pathetic. At least someone like Tim who doesn't agree with me will give specific evidence and statistics when he disagrees with someone like me. You love to point out why I must be wrong, but don't offer and constructive input as to why I'm wrong. You are a cyber hater. You just hate when informed people have an opinion that's different to yours. And please don't insult my basketball talent evaluation like you're some NCAA scout when you don't have the first clue about Rudy Gobert or James Young.
And yes, I'll maintain and fully endorse giving up James Young and a very late first round pick for Rudy Gobert because Gobert's got game changing length and defensive instinct that's developed rapidly since coming into the NBA.