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Grammar questions
« on: September 11, 2014, 09:16:06 PM »

Offline RockinRyA

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Lately I've been noticing a trend from people on the internet, many people (Majority of them Americans) use "should of, could of, would of" instead of should've, could've, or would've. English is my second language, so I know I'm not an authority on this, but what I've learned through my English subject from Elementary till college was that it is wrong. I asked my Great Aunt who was an english professor when she was young and she said its flat out wrong and its just "internet people being internet people" (followed by a long lecture on why people are getting dumber because of internet and I should stop playing games  ;D)

Is it really wrong or is it just us asians not really knowing English that well and its a thing now?

Re: Grammar questions
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2014, 09:18:32 PM »

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It's not really an Internet thing, it's from the "ve" sounding like "of" to people.  So they wind up honestly thinking that's what the word is.  You just find it a lot on the internet since that's where you tend to see writing from folks like that.

It is flat-out wrong, though. 

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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2014, 09:22:51 PM »

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What ires me is that the new generation of our workforce do not practice good grammar. Communications coming from them usually tend to be full of grammatical errors. I am not a grammar nazi, but it is painful to read emails and correspondences which are barely readable to say the least.
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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2014, 09:31:16 PM »

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language is about communicating. As long as you are communicating the rules of language have long been lost.

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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2014, 09:41:01 PM »

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It's not really an Internet thing, it's from the "ve" sounding like "of" to people.  So they wind up honestly thinking that's what the word is.  You just find it a lot on the internet since that's where you tend to see writing from folks like that.

It is flat-out wrong, though.

Correct.

Although I'm not sure it's any worse than using the wrong form of 'its' to ask a question.  ;D
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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2014, 10:31:22 PM »

Offline RockinRyA

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I see, thanks for the explanation. Maybe it just bothers me because I spent my childhood studying grammar for school contests. In our country you will get ripped for bad grammar if people dont like you (which mostly happens in local basketball/video game forums)

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« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2014, 10:33:20 PM »

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You have to allow for a lot of lenience in something as informal as a forum, IMO. People post on their phones, post while intoxicated, post before coffee, etc.
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« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2014, 10:36:37 PM »

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go thank your aunt. she is right on all points.  ;D
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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2014, 10:46:23 PM »

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Well yes, I am lenient most of the time. People make typos. Sometimes though you can see it's an error when they use it everytime. Plus this just made me wonder because it didn't make sense for me but I've been seeing it a lot in forums and chats, and I'm far removed from my school days so I wasn't sure.

go thank your aunt. she is right on all points.  ;D

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On this note, is there some conspiracy to write "loosing" in place of losing as a goof and then not tell poor Nerf about it? I swear I see "loosing" more than half the time now. You guys shouldn't keep me in the dark like this....

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« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2014, 11:11:40 PM »

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On this note, is there some conspiracy to write "loosing" in place of losing as a goof and then not tell poor Nerf about it? I swear I see "loosing" more than half the time now. You guys shouldn't keep me in the dark like this....

I just loosed a TP on you.  It's getting into "could care less" territory.

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« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2014, 11:57:23 PM »

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I have to confess that I do use the slang "coulda", "woulda" and "shoulda" in texting and in these forums rather than the contractions "would've", "could've", "should've" because of laziness and ease of keyboarding. I'm an old school, crappy hunt and peck typist (is that even a word anymore?), so any shortcuts I can take, I will.

In formal, professional writings though, I do't even use the contractions but rather "could have", "would have" and "should have".

I also admit that that "could OF", "would OF" and "should OF" drive me absolutely insane. What the blank does "could of" even mean? ??? ::) ???

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I have to confess that I do use the slang "coulda", "woulda" and "shoulda" in texting and in these forums rather than the contractions "would've", "could've", "should've" because of laziness and ease of keyboarding. I'm an old school, crappy hunt and peck typist (is that even a word anymore?), so any shortcuts I can take, I will.

In formal, professional writings though, I do't even use the contractions but rather "could have", "would have" and "should have".

I also admit that that "could OF", "would OF" and "should OF" drive me absolutely insane. What the blank does "could of" even mean? ??? ::) ???

Good OP...TP

I use them a lot as well, and I agree with your sentiments.

Anyway thanks for the clarifications guys. Gave everyone here a tp

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« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2014, 12:36:47 AM »

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What ires me is that the new generation of our workforce do not practice good grammar. Communications coming from them usually tend to be full of grammatical errors. I am not a grammar nazi, but it is painful to read emails and correspondences which are barely readable to say the least.

While I'm not a grammar Nazi, either, I do fit the demographic of, as you put it, "the new generation of our workforce," so allow me to ask these two questions - 1).  Did you mean irks instead of ires, and 2).  Shouldn't you have written, "What particularly/really irks me is that the new generation of our workforce does not practice good grammar?"  I'm just wondering.