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A Realistic Marcus Smart Comparison
« on: September 06, 2014, 09:36:45 PM »

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I know, I know, "realistic," and, "celticsblog," don't exactly go hand in hand ;D.  We've all been guilty of over-hyping players and setting unrealistic expectations for guys over the years, so I thought of a much more realistic comparison for Smart.  No, he's not Westbrook, DJ (I said that one.  Yeah...I'm as guilty as anyone else on here haha), or Lance Stephenson, but could he possibly be a shorter, less-athletic version of Iman Shumpert?  Is that reasonable? 

Re: A Realistic Marcus Smart Comparison
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2014, 09:40:10 PM »

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Re: A Realistic Marcus Smart Comparison
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2014, 09:40:30 PM »

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I know, I know, "realistic," and, "celticsblog," don't exactly go hand in hand ;D.  We've all been guilty of over-hyping players and setting unrealistic expectations for guys over the years, so I thought of a much more realistic comparison for Smart.  No, he's not Westbrook, DJ (I said that one.  Yeah...I'm as guilty as anyone else on here haha), or Lance Stephenson, but could he possibly be a shorter, less-athletic version of Iman Shumpert?  Is that reasonable?
It's reasonable, but he seems to/should have more point guard skills than Shump.

Re: A Realistic Marcus Smart Comparison
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2014, 09:42:51 PM »

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No. Smart will be an all-star. I see that being more realistic than these comparisons to role players.
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I like the Kyle Lowry comparison I heard from our own member Kane.
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Re: A Realistic Marcus Smart Comparison
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Not a big fan of comparisons, but I think Smart has the tools to become a Bledsoe-type player, with a higher ceiling.

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« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2014, 10:11:08 PM »

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Man, I'd be pretty disappointed if he turned into a lesser Iman Shumpert.


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Re: A Realistic Marcus Smart Comparison
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2014, 10:27:26 PM »

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TP mostly because when I see the word "realistic" in a post title I think the content will be anything but that.

I would rate this as "pessimistic" unless you're talking about pre-injury Shumpert, who was a pretty hot asset at one point.

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« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2014, 10:33:24 PM »

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I actually see Smart as a Bledsoe type of player with a stronger build, but less quickness/athleticism. I think Bledsoe has great ball handling skills, but hes not a PG. Hes a SG just like Westbrook.
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Re: A Realistic Marcus Smart Comparison
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2014, 10:52:08 PM »

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I like the Kyle Lowry comparison I heard from our own member Kane.

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I think a little bit better version of Lowry is realistic and probably where he ends up. I saw tyreke as a floor. I'm optimistic for a more dedicated and maybe less flashy version of baron Davis.

Like baron he is coming into the league with lots of criticism about his shot. However also like baron he's a flat out bullie. He physically overpowers players at his position and he can get to the basket  consistently without being overly explosive.

Scouting report of b diddy from 1999 before the draft. Honestly it's identical to smart.

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Re: A Realistic Marcus Smart Comparison
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2014, 10:53:05 PM »

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I actually see Smart as a Bledsoe type of player with a stronger build, but less quickness/athleticism. I think Bledsoe has great ball handling skills, but hes not a PG. Hes a SG just like Westbrook.

I thought Bledsoe as well but Marcus has some PG skills.  Bledsoe is a pretty strong guy too.

Re: A Realistic Marcus Smart Comparison
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2014, 10:59:41 PM »

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I'm gonna go all in. Dwyane Wade. Specifically, his ability to draw fouls. Wade averaged 9 FTAs per36 his sophomore season, something only 5 other guards have achieved. He's at 8 per36 for his career. Most agree Smart will be able to effectively get to the line, and from what I've seen, he's good at angling his body to take contact and getting his arms underneath.

I can only hope he becomes as skilled a flopper as Wade. He's pretty good already, but Wade is in a class of his own. It is a useful skill once mastered.

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Man, I'd be pretty disappointed if he turned into a lesser Iman Shumpert.
I'd also be disappointed if he turned into a better Iman Shumpert!

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« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2014, 11:50:34 PM »

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Poor man's James Harden offensively with much better defense. I say this because of their similar shot selection on offense. It's pretty uncommon to see two players rely on 3PT shooting and driving to the rim with barely anything in-between. Neither player relies on explosive athleticism to drive to the rim. They're either crafty or bull their way through. The difference is James Harden was a much better 3PT shooter in college (5% better), and this is why I'm primarily saying he'll be a poor man's version. Remains to be seen how Smart adjusts to NBA length and whether his 3PT shot gets better or not, but stylistically I feel comfortable saying Harden.

Smart took 42% of his FGA from the 3PT line in college, while Harden has been hovering around 40% 3PAr (not 3PT%) in the NBA. Smart had a 65% FTr (not FT%) in college while Harden had a 60% FTr in college. Smart took around 45% of his FGA at the rim (meaning ~87% of his FGA were either at the rim or the 3PT line; barely anything in-between) while Harden takes about 30-35% of his FGA at the rim in the NBA (not sure about college) totaling to about 70-75% of his FGA coming from either the rim or the 3PT line.

Both are above average playmakers that can run your offense (though I don't like what Harden has become in Houston honestly). OKC relied on Harden to be their point guard down the stretch because of how erratic Westbrook can be.

I think Baron Davis is a good comparison overall (big point guard, lots of 3s, shaky shot selection, great defense, etc), but he didn't get to the FT line as much as Smart projects to. Smart's foul drawing ability is one of his biggest pluses. That and his 3PT chucking is what leans me to more of a Harden comparison (for offense). Most 3PT chuckers (and I mean this in the best of ways) do not drive to the rim and draw fouls as much as Harden and Smart do.
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