Star Trades in the past

[Fan from VT]

I was thinking about Rondo trades in general and wanted to look back and see what other star players had fetched for their teams.

Obviously every circumstance is unique. A few things counting against Rondo. I think none of the players below had as bad an injury as Rondo just had. He's playing at a time of unprecedented young and talented depth at his position. He's a free agent in 1 year reportedly looking for the max.

I'm also not sure what is value around the league is. Not many teams need PGs (I think it's a trickle down from the rule changes a few years ago favoring quick guards and making them very abundant. Maybe as many as half the teams in the nba wouldn't trade their PG straight up for Rondo.


But a few things from below. Unless you get wowed, maybe not much benefit to trading him. Looking below, how many of those teams are in definitely a better spot now than when they traded their star? Not many. Second, not many draft picks really pan out or end up being all that high in the draft.

I'm afraid Rondo's closest comps right now might be antoine walker when he left the celtics and ray allen when he joined the celtics.



Shaq
Still near his peak, pretty much guaranteed title contention at that time:
Lamar Odom,
Brian Grant
Caron Butler
first round pick (2006 #26-Jordan Farmar)
second round pick (2007 #50-Renaldas Seibutis)

Vince Carter
Forced his way out. Superstar at the time.
Alonzo Mourning
Eric Williams
Aaron Williams
first round pick (2005 #16-Joey Graham)
 2006 first round pick (2006 #20-Renaldo Balkman)

Tracy McGrady (with Lue, Reece Gaines, Juwan Howard)
Steve Francis
Cuttino Mobley
Kelvin Cato

Derron Williams
Superstar, wrongly debated as possible best PG in NBA, but debated nonetheless
Devin Harris
Derrick Favors,
2011 first round pick (#3-Enes Kanter),
first round pick (2013 #21-Gorgui Dieng)
cash considerations

Carmelo Anthony with Chauncey Billups, Renaldo Balkman, Anthony Carter, Shelden Williams, Corey Brewer
Super duper star, plus some good pieces
Wilson Chandler
Raymond Felton
Danilo Gallinari
Kosta Koufos
Timofey Mozgov
2012 second round pick (#38-Quincy Miller)
2013 second round pick (#51-Romero Osby), 2
014 first round pick (#12-Dario Saric),
Nuggets option to swap 2016 first round picks with Knicks (?-?)
$3M cash

Kevin Garnett
Superstar, but considered a little past his peak.
Al Jefferson
Gerald Green
Theo Ratliff
Ryan Gomes,
Telfair
2009 protected first round pick  (#6-Jonny Flynn / Johnny Flynn)
conditional first round pick (2009 #28-Wayne Ellington)
Cash

Ray Allen
All-star, post injury, considered just post prime
Wally Szczerbiak
Delonte West
rights to Jeff Green
2008 second round pick (#46-Trent Plaisted)

Antoine Walker with Tony Delk
Star at the time
Raef LaFrentz
Jiri Welsch
Chris Mills
2004 first round pick (#24-Delonte West)
 
Joe Johnson
Ready to sign max deal
Boris Diaw
2006 first round pick (2006 #21-Rajon Rondo)
first round pick (2008 #15-Robin Lopez)

Chris Webber
Tom Gugliotta
1996 first round pick (#11-Todd Fuller)
1998 first round pick (#13-Keon Clark)
2000 first round pick (top 3 protected) (#7-Chris Mihm)

And

Mitch Ritchmond
Otis Thorpe

Pau Gasol
Kwame Brown
Javaris Crittenton
Aaron McKie
rights to Marc Gasol
first round pick (2008 #28-Donte Greene),
2010 first round pick (#28-Greivis Vasquez)
cash

Chris Paul
Best PG in the game
Eric Gordon
Chris Kaman
Al-Farouq Aminu
2012 first round pick (#10-Austin Rivers)

[Who]

I think the Ray Allen to Boston trade package is most indicative of where I believe Rondo's trade value is currently at.

[bleedGREENdon]

I think the Ray Allen to Boston trade package is most indicative of where I believe Rondo's trade value is currently at.

I would take that for rondo any day.

A top 5 1st round pick, a 2nd rounder, a proven off the bench scorer who only knows how to score, and decent bench point gaurd.

[bleedGREENdon]

Honestly if we get any of those trades back for rondo we are in a good position.

We have a proven NBA power forward, there's no one on this site that can say Sully isn't a legit NBA player. He gets the bad side of some of is because we want him to be a star.

We have one f the best defensive SG's in the league.

Jeff green can be a great player on a contender if he isn't the main focus, but I don't think he's in our future unless he shows he can be a star this year ( I have faith).

We have a young point gaurd in the waiting.

We need a young player who can become great and a proven NBA center. Or else I don't want to trade rondo and would rather let him ,trade Gerald Wallace and we can offer Marc Gasol a max deal.

A lineup of

Smart
Bradley
Green
Sully
Gasol

With a boatload of draft picks is a bright future.

[Monkhouse]

Honestly if we get any of those trades back for rondo we are in a good position.

We have a proven NBA power forward, there's no one on this site that can say Sully isn't a legit NBA player. He gets the bad side of some of is because we want him to be a star.

We have one f the best defensive SG's in the league.

Jeff green can be a great player on a contender if he isn't the main focus, but I don't think he's in our future unless he shows he can be a star this year ( I have faith).

We have a young point gaurd in the waiting.

We need a young player who can become great and a proven NBA center. Or else I don't want to trade rondo and would rather let him ,trade Gerald Wallace and we can offer Marc Gasol a max deal.

A lineup of

Smart
Bradley
Green
Sully
Gasol

With a boatload of draft picks is a bright future.

Gasol isn't going to come over to a team like the Celtics... Its the same reason why Rondo 'may,' want out. Gasol wants to contend too... His prime is coming to an end, so the only reason why Gasol would join us if he believes we have a good chance of contending. I honestly think if Ainge wanted Gasol, that he would've gone after his brother Pau, and Marc would contemplate the possibility of actually playing with his brother.

A line up of
Rondo/Smart
Bradley/Smart
Green
Pau Gasol
Marc Gasol

Is a pretty decent team defensively, and Bradley/Green are great spot up shooters, who are complimented by smart passers in Pau/Marc/Rondo.

[Rondo9]

If Rondo's worth is around Antione, then why trade him at all?

[hwangjini_1]

Honestly if we get any of those trades back for rondo we are in a good position.

We have a proven NBA power forward, there's no one on this site that can say Sully isn't a legit NBA player. He gets the bad side of some of is because we want him to be a star.

We have one f the best defensive SG's in the league.

Jeff green can be a great player on a contender if he isn't the main focus, but I don't think he's in our future unless he shows he can be a star this year ( I have faith).

We have a young point gaurd in the waiting.

We need a young player who can become great and a proven NBA center. Or else I don't want to trade rondo and would rather let him ,trade Gerald Wallace and we can offer Marc Gasol a max deal.

A lineup of

Smart
Bradley
Green
Sully
Gasol

With a boatload of draft picks is a bright future.

agreed. but if the celtics get back packages equivalent to these the other GM deserves to be fired. maybe ainge can swing a miracle here, but i just dont see the celtics getting this sort of return for him. hopefully i am wrong once more.