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"Revealing Boston's Most Underrated Skills"
« on: August 29, 2014, 09:43:05 PM »

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http://www.nba.com/celtics/news/sidebar/revealing-bostons-most-underrated-skills


I thought this was interesting and I wanted to know if anyone else knew some things they missed.

LOL I know everyone thinks we have a team full of scrubs but we do have some good players.

I didn't even realize Green got to the line so often, I was one of the people yelling, "DRIVE IT IN GREEN, THEY CAN'T STOP YOU!" but I was thinking he didn't do it much. I was obviously wrong.

Kelly took as many charges as Sully but they gave it to Sully since Kelly was in for passing, I'm liking how good both of those kids are... need to tighten up defensively and we have something good (with the potential to be even more).
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« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2014, 11:25:09 PM »

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Like I've been saying, I'm of a mind that we're going to be a surprise this season...better than a lot of people anticipate.  Rondo will be playing for contract, so I expect him to be the best Rondo we've ever seen.  Avery will really be good (he was another one that flew under the rader of the guys that shot well last season and he'd be better this season), Sully and Olynik will improve a great deal (I believe), Smart will be a surprise in my opinion (especially under Brad Stevens system), and don't forget Evan Turner now in the mix.  Brad Stevens is one weapon that is easy to overlook.  I really love the guy being our coach.  It's going to be interesting how he manage these pieces.

I lost all faith in Jeff Green long time ago.  The guy is softer than warm butter.

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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2014, 12:00:56 AM »

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I can't wait to see what Olynyk does this year. He's a little bit 'Jack of all trades' but hopefully that will keep unwary defences guessing. Maybe he can defend a bit this year as well...

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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2014, 12:33:57 AM »

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I lost all faith in Jeff Green long time ago.  The guy is softer than warm butter.

Green was still our top scorer last season.  I hope he has a good year so he ups his trade value and maybe we can wrangle a top draft pick or in a package deal for a star player.

I believe that Kelly Olynyk, if healthy, is on the verge of breaking out.  He was playing VERY WELL towards the end of the season last year.  And now he has improved is body and conditioning for year 2.  Really hope we keep KO until we have a better evaluation of his skills and what he will bring to our team going forward.

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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2014, 02:49:36 AM »

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Zeller is going to join Bass being automatic from 15-17 ft.

KO is one of the best passing big man in the league already.


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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2014, 07:48:20 AM »

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I'm not quite buying the part about Bass being that good at mid range shooting.

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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2014, 08:23:36 AM »

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I'm not quite buying the part about Bass being that good at mid range shooting.
he is good. part of the reason is that most defenses are willing to give him that shot since it is the least efficient shot taken in the nba. they dont give him lay ups or 3 pointers, so he takes what the defense allows him. that isnt bad, but it is not the most efficient way to score over the long nba season.
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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2014, 09:09:47 AM »

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I'm not quite buying the part about Bass being that good at mid range shooting.
Why is it so hard to believe?  KG shot has shot over 50% from there with us and that made him the best in the league more than once I believe.

As for JG, I think for a guy who played 82 games and averaged 34.2 minutes that 6th among SFs and 30th overall in total FTs isn't very surprising or underrated.
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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2014, 09:48:28 AM »

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Bass has concrete mitts for hands.


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« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2014, 10:00:24 AM »

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If Sully gets into shape and gets stronger he could be just under an elite player.

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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2014, 03:31:37 PM »

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I'm not quite buying the part about Bass being that good at mid range shooting.

It's completely accurate.  But the thing is he is a player who is basically only catching and shooting those shots.  He is more limited than other players who shoot them offensively.  Players like KG who will be able to fade away and shoot that shot, or guards that can shoot it off the dribble. 

Point being Bass is great at that shot but otherwise he is limited compared to other players.  He is a specialist.
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« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2014, 03:48:14 PM »

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There are a few reasons I don't buy it....I'll try to explain.

Context. It matters.

Maybe during the 80s Larry Bird shot only 41% from the three point line and maybe some other random guy shot 43% but Larry could do it with 4 of the other team's best defenders trying to stop him in front of the other team's bench, then turn to them and say "I'm gonna do exactly that in 3 minutes again" and then he'd do it. You would be sorely mistaken to think the other guy is actually the better shooter.

Also....ok...so he's good at that shot.....but you don't really want him taking it. He takes that shot after several other things have failed or after the game is out of hand or someone is hurt so some poor 19 year old is defending him. 

It's like saying "I just upgraded my free throw shooting on my fantasy team because I traded Durant for Steve Nash and that guy is a great free throw shooter".  Nope. It doesn't work that way. How many shots does each guy take?

It's a fine feature of a not great player

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« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2014, 06:34:35 PM »

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There are a few reasons I don't buy it....I'll try to explain.

Context. It matters.

Maybe during the 80s Larry Bird shot only 41% from the three point line and maybe some other random guy shot 43% but Larry could do it with 4 of the other team's best defenders trying to stop him in front of the other team's bench, then turn to them and say "I'm gonna do exactly that in 3 minutes again" and then he'd do it. You would be sorely mistaken to think the other guy is actually the better shooter.

Also....ok...so he's good at that shot.....but you don't really want him taking it. He takes that shot after several other things have failed or after the game is out of hand or someone is hurt so some poor 19 year old is defending him. 

It's like saying "I just upgraded my free throw shooting on my fantasy team because I traded Durant for Steve Nash and that guy is a great free throw shooter".  Nope. It doesn't work that way. How many shots does each guy take?

It's a fine feature of a not great player

He hit them when he was surrounded by great players and hit them with last season's team.  Sounds like nitpicking. Let him get some shine lol.
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« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2014, 07:28:12 PM »

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Bass is an excellent mid range shooter.  No context needed.

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« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2014, 07:32:42 PM »

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Bass is an excellent mid range shooter.  No context needed.
So here's my question about that. Let's say you're in a game.  You're the coach. Does it ever occur to you  "Bass is a great mid range shooter. I want to feed it to him. I want him to be the go to guy tonight?"

My theory is that if the answer is "No. That would actually never occur to me" then he's not that great a shooter.

Maybe Steve Kerr was a great outside shooter. But he was never more than the 8th best player on a team, it never really helped his team that much, and losing him would never have hurt his teams really at all. That's Bass. He's a great mid range shooter similarly to how Steve Kerr was a great outside shooter but Kerr was the best EVER.

Bass is Steve Kerr light. He's not the best ever and Kerr's shots were worth 50% more. After this year he won't be a Celt and the team will most likely be better for it. He does very little for us other than keep the seat warm while our young guys develop.