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What does this team need more right now?
« on: August 29, 2014, 10:42:43 AM »

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Saw this on BR and found it interesting in terms of what to focus on first. Just wanted to see what others thought.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2174140-diagnosing-boston-celtics-remaining-roster-flaws

For the sake of this argument, which of the following should we address prior to the season:

1. Overcrowded front court
2. Overcrowded back court
3. Lack of real perimeter threats
4. Lack of a real defensive presence, or
5. Lack of a go to scorer

IMO 1 and 2 are just the most glaring, hurtful to young players, and reasonable to fix. Moving 2-3 guys could address  point 3 and/or 4. Point 5 is not a real issue now.

 
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Re: What does this team need more right now?
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I would address 5 first but that's not happening at this point prior to opening night.   This team lacks an alpha dog right now badly. 

They do have to shed some of this backcourt which they will.


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Point 5 is a big issue.  Good teams needs those players for those scorers.  The Celtics do not have one. 


The overcrowded issue is an issue because the Celtics are loaded with equivalent talent at those points, but no talent that would be considered "exceptionable"  (A healthy motivated Rondo is the exception) 


There is no reason to fix issue one or two if it doesn't improve the long term assets for the Celtics. 

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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2014, 11:33:23 AM »

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I guess I'd go with number 2.  The team's flaw that needs the most attention right now is a center.  One that is a defensive presence and an offensive presence.  I don't think we can likely address that prior to the season.  Same thing with options 3 through 5.

Plus we don't even have a lot of frontcourt depth.  We have 4 capable bigs and then 2 injury reserves who will put us at a huge disadvantage if they actually have to fill in for anybody.  We should really be looking for frontcourt help, not trying to give Bass away for nothing.  Crowding in the backcourt is much more evident, specifically with Bogans who is taking up a spot that could be CJ or Pressey.

Really, cutting backcourt players is the only thing on that list we can do.
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Good players. This team needs more good players. Right now.
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« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2014, 12:45:50 PM »

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yeah we need a star/go to scorer. without it, this team is a rooster running around with it's head cut off.

get that and everything else falls into place and you know where you're heading.

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« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2014, 01:21:21 PM »

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I'd say #1 as it is key to getting another piece.
We need to trade one of our power forwards with a draft pick, guard, filler for a position we need help with
zeller is a very good backup center imo, as a starter  ::) solid i guess, but he does show promise
bass is a good solid backup pf , sully is a the same but with more potential to be a solid starter, kelly good solid backup who can give you minutes and a different skill set at center
If we can move one of these guys (to me bass or sully) with a draft pick and filler for an upgrade it will help.
to me the most important thing for the coming season is going to be defensive unit working very well together
I think we can get away with zeller, fav and kelly at center position because our exterior defense looks like it could be very good: rondo, smart, bradley, green all good-very good defenders that can force opposing players into pressure.  To me that means you don't need bill russell behind them but just a tall guy to bother shots.
Also team rebounding which I feel we should be very good at
its the offense that'll be the ?
rondo back 100%, bradley plays within the team game but shoots well, jeff green consistent, sully and kelly improve, bass stays steady, zeller playing with rondo can give us 10 and 10, evan turner plays like in philly but becomes efficient  ::) , thornton plays like vinnie johnson
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Shooting guards.

Man, I just can't get me enuff sum shooting guards!

We need to corner the market on freaking shooting guards!!!

Right now, our starting lineup is solid:

Bradley
Thornton
Smart
Turner
Young

But our bench is thin.  Only a handful of guys left who can play SG -- only Chris Johnson, Chris Babb and Keith Bogans. 

Sure, Wallace or Green can be asked to play SG in a pinch.  But who wants posers?

And McGruder is just here for the training camp check and a bus ticket to Maine.

We clearly need to dump sum of the oversized deadweight on this roster and get sum more quality shooting guards!
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#4 - lack of interior defensive presence

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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2014, 09:43:48 AM »

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a rim protector and a young PP - a crunch time scorer

Re: What does this team need more right now?
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2014, 09:53:23 AM »

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Get a player that combines both 3 and 5, a go to scorer that is a perimeter threat.

Then go for 4.


We have the complimentary players.

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« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2014, 09:54:49 AM »

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Good players. This team needs more good players. Right now.
I think we have a lot of 'good' players --> players I consider NBA rotation quality (role) players.

what we have is too many of these 'good' players and not enough very good or great players --> players that provide an advantage over the player playing the same position on the opposing team.  Only player we can really say that about is Rondo unless the other team really has a weakness at forward where Green or Sully might provide a slight advantage.

at this point, I don't see those better players coming in a trade unless Sully, KO, Zeller, AB, Smart or even Young show they're very good players this year or show they're good with signs of significant upside.  C's are going to either get lucky in the draft or hit it in free agency.  Next offseason C's will hopefully be in the position to do both

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We haven't had a great center since Shaq.  That's the position we're starving the most.

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This team needs some real fortitude and use that fortitude to TANK HARD FOR OKAFOR OR TOWNS.